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| Puebloswatcop |
 Mar 27 2021, 01:43 PM
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Senior Member  Group: Members Posts: 1,389 Joined: 27-December 14 From: Mineola, Texas Member No.: 18,258 Region Association: Southwest Region  |
Hey everyone,
I am looking for ideas from anyone who might have installed a third brake light on their 914. Specifically how the install was done and recommended lights themselves. Thanks |
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| FlacaProductions |
Mar 27 2021, 02:12 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,592 Joined: 24-November 17 From: LA Member No.: 21,628 Region Association: Southern California 
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@Puebloswatcop - the "search" function is your friend but these will get you started:
http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?sho...p;#entry2402818 http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?sho...p;#entry2607991 http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?sho...p;#entry2129327 http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?sho...p;#entry2810183 http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?sho...p;#entry2364315 http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?sho...p;#entry1971416 |
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| Tom_T |
Mar 27 2021, 06:10 PM
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TMI.... Group: Members Posts: 8,318 Joined: 19-March 09 From: Orange, CA Member No.: 10,181 Region Association: Southern California
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GoWesty 3rd Brake Light - works on our 914s too.
I've got one on our `88 Westy, & will probably put it on my 914 too whenever it's ready for the street. Easy install on the Westy van, a bit more work to find the taillight wiring in the harness at the cabin or rear trunk near the rear window - then just as easy to install. Easy to undo the install too, due to the adhesive attachment of the light to the rear window - which can be done at the bottom or top of the glass, but I'd suggest bottom just at the trunk/engine lid level. https://www.gowesty.com/product/-/23669/thi...ght-kit-led-?v= BTW - our son ended up going CO/NG & Electrician Apprentice after leaving the 4th in Aug.`19 - & not SWAT, when we last talked. Cheers! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) Tom /////// |
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| Tom_T |
Mar 27 2021, 06:12 PM
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TMI.... Group: Members Posts: 8,318 Joined: 19-March 09 From: Orange, CA Member No.: 10,181 Region Association: Southern California
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QUOTE(FlacaProductions @ Mar 27 2021, 12:12 PM)  @Puebloswatcop - the "search" function is your friend but these will get you started: http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?sho...p;#entry2402818 http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?sho...p;#entry2607991 http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?sho...p;#entry2129327 http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?sho...p;#entry2810183 http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?sho...p;#entry2364315 http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?sho...p;#entry1971416 Thanx for sharing #3 jackass! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) |
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| Puebloswatcop |
Mar 28 2021, 08:09 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,389 Joined: 27-December 14 From: Mineola, Texas Member No.: 18,258 Region Association: Southwest Region |
QUOTE(FlacaProductions @ Mar 27 2021, 01:12 PM) @Puebloswatcop - the "search" function is your friend but these will get you started: http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?sho...p;#entry2402818 http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?sho...p;#entry2607991 http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?sho...p;#entry2129327 http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?sho...p;#entry2810183 http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?sho...p;#entry2364315 http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?sho...p;#entry1971416 Thanks. Everytime I use the search function I seem to get one hundred pages of restoration threads and cant narrow down the par that has to do with what I am asking for....lol |
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| Jett |
Mar 28 2021, 09:35 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,639 Joined: 27-July 14 From: Seattle Member No.: 17,686 Region Association: Pacific Northwest
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I like the corvette third light option.
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| bbrock |
Mar 28 2021, 09:45 AM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,269 Joined: 17-February 17 From: Montana Member No.: 20,845 Region Association: Rocky Mountains
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Here's another recent link with a few additional installs:
http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?sho...335411&st=0 |
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| FlacaProductions |
Mar 28 2021, 11:42 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,592 Joined: 24-November 17 From: LA Member No.: 21,628 Region Association: Southern California
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QUOTE(Tom_T @ Mar 27 2021, 05:12 PM) QUOTE(FlacaProductions @ Mar 27 2021, 12:12 PM) @Puebloswatcop - the "search" function is your friend but these will get you started: http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?sho...p;#entry2402818 http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?sho...p;#entry2607991 http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?sho...p;#entry2129327 http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?sho...p;#entry2810183 http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?sho...p;#entry2364315 http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?sho...p;#entry1971416 Thanx for sharing #3 jackass! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) Hey now.... |
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| FlacaProductions |
Mar 28 2021, 11:44 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,592 Joined: 24-November 17 From: LA Member No.: 21,628 Region Association: Southern California
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QUOTE(Puebloswatcop @ Mar 28 2021, 07:09 AM) QUOTE(FlacaProductions @ Mar 27 2021, 01:12 PM) @Puebloswatcop - the "search" function is your friend but these will get you started: http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?sho...p;#entry2402818 http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?sho...p;#entry2607991 http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?sho...p;#entry2129327 http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?sho...p;#entry2810183 http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?sho...p;#entry2364315 http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?sho...p;#entry1971416 Thanks. Everytime I use the search function I seem to get one hundred pages of restoration threads and cant narrow down the par that has to do with what I am asking for....lol try using this link and then enter your search criteria in the Google field: https://www.google.com/search?client=safari...wiz.oZyv-EBzX5Y |
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| Tom_T |
Mar 28 2021, 02:42 PM
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TMI.... Group: Members Posts: 8,318 Joined: 19-March 09 From: Orange, CA Member No.: 10,181 Region Association: Southern California
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QUOTE(FlacaProductions @ Mar 28 2021, 09:42 AM) QUOTE(Tom_T @ Mar 27 2021, 05:12 PM) QUOTE(FlacaProductions @ Mar 27 2021, 12:12 PM) @Puebloswatcop - the "search" function is your friend but these will get you started: http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?sho...p;#entry2402818 http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?sho...p;#entry2607991 http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?sho...p;#entry2129327 http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?sho...p;#entry2810183 http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?sho...p;#entry2364315 http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?sho...p;#entry1971416 Thanx for sharing #3 jackass! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) Hey now.... I see no useful reason to include Mark's nasty post in your list Brian. Even Mark apologized for his "ghetto 914" comment. So I stand by my first call out on you Bri! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/shades.gif) Maybe think about members having other situations which get in the way of doing work on their 914s!? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif) Tom /////// |
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| barefoot |
Mar 28 2021, 02:49 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,276 Joined: 19-March 13 From: Charleston SC Member No.: 15,673 Region Association: South East States
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Although i can't find anything in the PET, I think 1976 was the first yr for all cars to have the high 3rd brake light. My 76 has one & it seems to be stock.
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| Cairo94507 |
Mar 28 2021, 05:04 PM
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Michael Group: Members Posts: 9,776 Joined: 1-November 08 From: Auburn, CA Member No.: 9,712 Region Association: Northern California
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No way a '76 914 came stock with a 3rd brake light. For some reason I want to think early '80's was 3rd brake light requirement.
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| Coondog |
Mar 28 2021, 05:08 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,089 Joined: 24-September 15 From: Apple Valley Calif Member No.: 19,195 Region Association: Southern California
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QUOTE(barefoot @ Mar 28 2021, 01:49 PM) Although i can't find anything in the PET, I think 1976 was the first yr for all cars to have the high 3rd brake light. My 76 has one & it seems to be stock. 1986 all new cars were required to have a 3rd brake light. |
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| FlacaProductions |
Mar 28 2021, 05:11 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,592 Joined: 24-November 17 From: LA Member No.: 21,628 Region Association: Southern California
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Hey @Tom_T - I humbly apologize for this and not really sure how my bookmark/link directed specifically to that post. I'll admit that I didn't totally read thru all those threads that came up on the google search before posting them and now I see how I stirred things up.
I thought i was just posting some quick links to get the OP started down a proper worm hole on this subject. That's what I get for trying to help, I guess....I'll just go sit down over here. |
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| wndsrfr |
Mar 28 2021, 08:17 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,430 Joined: 30-April 09 From: Rescue, Virginia Member No.: 10,318 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region
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LED strips from local parts store tied into brake/turn signal....
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| Tom_T |
Mar 29 2021, 11:44 AM
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TMI.... Group: Members Posts: 8,318 Joined: 19-March 09 From: Orange, CA Member No.: 10,181 Region Association: Southern California
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QUOTE(FlacaProductions @ Mar 28 2021, 03:11 PM) Hey @Tom_T - I humbly apologize for this and not really sure how my bookmark/link directed specifically to that post. I'll admit that I didn't totally read thru all those threads that came up on the google search before posting them and now I see how I stirred things up. I thought i was just posting some quick links to get the OP started down a proper worm hole on this subject. That's what I get for trying to help, I guess....I'll just go sit down over here. Apology accepted Brian. I see that it may not have been your fault that it went to the later post, instead of to my OP in that topic. PS - Apologies back at you for jumping the gun. I'm not sure why the link that you put in there went to the 6th post, and not my 1st post, but may be a vagary of the software running this forum board's search function. I think that you meant to link to the 1st post of my topic there - & not Mark's smart A remark at post #6 - which topic I started is actually about the same GoWesty 3rd Brake Light that I referenced above. So here's a corrected link to the start of that GoWesty 3rd Brake Light Topic that I posted in 20015. http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?sho...p=2129327&# Note that the price for the GoWesty 3rd brake light has gone up a tad since my 2015 topic linked above. It has worked well on our Westy van - being high up on the back, but can't say that it's categorically prevented any accidents. Before we got the 3rd brake light on the Westy, my wife was rear-ended at a stop light on a freeway off-ramp, but nothing since the light went on.  It's pretty low key installed, but I think that black foam double stick tape would've been even less obvious, but not sure if 3M makes double sided foam tape in black. Also, if you have to remove it, you can scrape & clean off the old foam tape, & then reapply new foam double sided tape from rolls available at any hardware, DIY, Walmart, Target, etc. store. PS - from the inside it's a textured black housing - so very low key & would be in the 914 top or bottom of window too - plus the LED lightbar inside the housing pivots such that it works on any angle of glass with the light bar pivoting to face out. The Westy & most cars/etc. have a sloping out rear window - whereas our 914s back windows slope inward to reduce glare - & this pivoting light bar will adjust itself to be perpendicular to the line of sight. Since the Vanagon & our 914s are both VW vehicles, this GoWesty light works the same on very similar design wiring harnesses. If you don't have a wiring harness diagram to do the install, then go to Jeff Bowlsby's 914 Harnesses website & look at the bottom of the main page for links to his various wiring diagrams, &/or at his Classic 914 website's documents section. A word of warning to Brian/Puebloswatcop & others looking at adding any 3rd brake light solution - I'm not sure how effective any brake light would be on our 914s - they being so low already & outside of too many tall high profile vehicle driver's view. I'm afraid that those inattentive SUV drivers will still miss our low slung 914s as they gab on their cellphones while sucking down a Slurpee! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) Cheers! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) Tom /////// |
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| barefoot |
Mar 29 2021, 01:18 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,276 Joined: 19-March 13 From: Charleston SC Member No.: 15,673 Region Association: South East States
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QUOTE(Coondog @ Mar 28 2021, 07:08 PM) QUOTE(barefoot @ Mar 28 2021, 01:49 PM) Although i can't find anything in the PET, I think 1976 was the first yr for all cars to have the high 3rd brake light. My 76 has one & it seems to be stock. 1986 all new cars were required to have a 3rd brake light. What the heck, I was only off by 10 years, that's close for me. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) |
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| oakdalecurtis |
Mar 29 2021, 01:26 PM
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Oakdalecurtis Group: Members Posts: 1,327 Joined: 5-June 15 From: Oakdale, Ca Member No.: 18,802 Region Association: Central California
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When I'm trying to recall a date past, I think of the number of years that first pops into my mind and then I DOUBLE it to be close....
(IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) 1986 all new cars were required to have a 3rd brake light. [/quote] What the heck, I was only off by 10 years, that's close for me. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) [/quote] |
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| Puebloswatcop |
Mar 30 2021, 08:29 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,389 Joined: 27-December 14 From: Mineola, Texas Member No.: 18,258 Region Association: Southwest Region |
QUOTE(Tom_T @ Mar 27 2021, 05:10 PM) GoWesty 3rd Brake Light - works on our 914s too. I've got one on our `88 Westy, & will probably put it on my 914 too whenever it's ready for the street. Easy install on the Westy van, a bit more work to find the taillight wiring in the harness at the cabin or rear trunk near the rear window - then just as easy to install. Easy to undo the install too, due to the adhesive attachment of the light to the rear window - which can be done at the bottom or top of the glass, but I'd suggest bottom just at the trunk/engine lid level. https://www.gowesty.com/product/-/23669/thi...ght-kit-led-?v= BTW - our son ended up going CO/NG & Electrician Apprentice after leaving the 4th in Aug.`19 - & not SWAT, when we last talked. Cheers! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) Tom /////// Hi Tom, It has been awhile since our last talk. Hope everyone is doing well. Might be a better choice on your son's part, with all thats going on in law enforcement. I am in Texas now. all retired and settling into the new house we built. Stay in touch Kevin (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) |
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| 914Toy |
Mar 30 2021, 08:55 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 718 Joined: 12-November 17 From: Laguna beach Member No.: 21,596 Region Association: Southern California
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QUOTE(Puebloswatcop @ Mar 27 2021, 12:43 PM) Hey everyone, I am looking for ideas from anyone who might have installed a third brake light on their 914. Specifically how the install was done and recommended lights themselves. Thanks FYI, this is my adoption of a 1980's Corvette third brake light, (someone else's idea and I was told it was also a late 944 Cabrio third brake light), bolted immediately forward of the grill. Bought it on Ebay.  |
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