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> The French 914/6 1972 Sonauto, Full restoration
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post Apr 27 2021, 07:52 PM
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Welcome!

Bet there aren't many other 914's in Algeria! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)



this is the first I see
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post Apr 28 2021, 07:53 AM
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This Sonauto badge was available 2 years ago:
https://www.early911sregistry.org/forums/sh...l-Sonauto-badge

The 1972 914/6 are interesting cars. A few steps forward, and a few steps back. Along with the 914/4 steering column and ignition switch, it appears the windshield washer is the 914/4 system. Were the upper front suspension mounts painted with tar like the earlier 914/6 or without tar like the 914/4?

Please look carefully for the Karmann body # in the rear trunk. It should be in the right rear corner near the right tail light with the form of 1320xxx where xxx should be close to the last three digits of the VIN.
Please get a photo of the VIN on the right inner fender and the paint badge .
There should also be a handwritten production # (may or may not be exactly the same as the Karmann body #) on the underside of the dash on the removable rear part.
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post Apr 28 2021, 09:04 AM
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Are you brazing it all?
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post Apr 28 2021, 10:06 AM
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QUOTE(mb911 @ Apr 28 2021, 07:04 AM) *

Are you brazing it all?


I hope this is not the case!!

This needs to be done properly! The way this is going, rust is going to come through within a couple years after paint.

This is just the tip of the iceberg. You need to cut the entire sail panel off and blast behind there. I'm sorry to say, but this is not the correct way to be doing a restoration on a 914

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post Apr 28 2021, 11:30 AM
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QUOTE(mb911 @ Apr 28 2021, 07:04 AM) *

Are you brazing it all?


I hope this is not the case!!

This needs to be done properly! The way this is going, rust is going to come through within a couple years after paint.

This is just the tip of the iceberg. You need to cut the entire sail panel off and blast behind there. I'm sorry to say, but this is not the correct way to be doing a restoration on a 914

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I cut the rust panel at the limit + 1MM on both sides.
I use primer filler pro before welding the new part.
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post Apr 28 2021, 11:55 AM
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Just keep in mind brazing is much like a glue and sticks different metals together but never becomes one like welding. Welding is where there is intermixing of all metals associated with the weld area/HAZ and becomes one thus less likely of future rust.


I teach welding and have for 20 years so not arm chair quarterbacking this statement. As long as you have removed all the rust brazing is an OK solution just not a Great solution.
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post Apr 28 2021, 02:27 PM
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QUOTE(davep @ Apr 28 2021, 07:53 AM) *

This Sonauto badge was available 2 years ago:
https://www.early911sregistry.org/forums/sh...l-Sonauto-badge

The 1972 914/6 are interesting cars. A few steps forward, and a few steps back. Along with the 914/4 steering column and ignition switch, it appears the windshield washer is the 914/4 system. Were the upper front suspension mounts painted with tar like the earlier 914/6 or without tar like the 914/4?

Please look carefully for the Karmann body # in the rear trunk. It should be in the right rear corner near the right tail light with the form of 1320xxx where xxx should be close to the last three digits of the VIN.
Please get a photo of the VIN on the right inner fender and the paint badge .
There should also be a handwritten production # (may or may not be exactly the same as the Karmann body #) on the underside of the dash on the removable rear part.
Dave


The upper front suspension mounts painted with tar like the earlier 914/6.

and

this what I found on it

too much rust in the rear trunk but we can read 4 so I believe it's the same Karmann body number.

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QUOTE(mb911 @ Apr 28 2021, 11:55 AM) *

Just keep in mind brazing is much like a glue and sticks different metals together but never becomes one like welding. Welding is where there is intermixing of all metals associated with the weld area/HAZ and becomes one thus less likely of future rust.


I teach welding and have for 20 years so not arm chair quarterbacking this statement. As long as you have removed all the rust brazing is an OK solution just not a Great solution.


i understand!
i ensure you I have removed all the rust. personally i prefer use brazing when it's curved and thin. hop isn't the worst solution.
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post Apr 30 2021, 08:14 AM
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QUOTE(davep @ Apr 28 2021, 07:53 AM) *

This Sonauto badge was available 2 years ago:
https://www.early911sregistry.org/forums/sh...l-Sonauto-badge

The 1972 914/6 are interesting cars. A few steps forward, and a few steps back. Along with the 914/4 steering column and ignition switch, it appears the windshield washer is the 914/4 system. Were the upper front suspension mounts painted with tar like the earlier 914/6 or without tar like the 914/4?

Please look carefully for the Karmann body # in the rear trunk. It should be in the right rear corner near the right tail light with the form of 1320xxx where xxx should be close to the last three digits of the VIN.
Please get a photo of the VIN on the right inner fender and the paint badge .
There should also be a handwritten production # (may or may not be exactly the same as the Karmann body #) on the underside of the dash on the removable rear part.
Dave


i don't have the original Engine, I want to know if the engine # 642XXX must be near than VIN KARMANN GEARBOX #
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thanks for the update report
I am curious to know where the Sonauto badge was placed on the car
keep up the good work

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QUOTE(gulf908 @ May 1 2021, 12:28 AM) *

thanks for the update report
I am curious to know where the Sonauto badge was placed on the car
keep up the good work

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Thank you very much for your support Dennis.

In the middle of the trunk

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post May 1 2021, 07:34 PM
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i don't have the original Engine, I want to know if the engine # 642XXX must be near than VIN KARMANN GEARBOX #
Khaled

I can get the engine #, look for a personal message from me in the upper right of the screen.
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