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KBMC1304
I just found tangerine 914/6 72"
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SirAndy
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Jamie
QUOTE(KBMC1304 @ Apr 20 2021, 02:40 PM) *

I just found tangerine 914/6 72"

So are you going to buy it? confused24.gif
rgalla9146

Is the windshield missing ?
MM1
Good job!
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gulf908
hi
does it still have the Sonauto badge ?
more pics please !

cheers
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live free & drive
Cool pin stripe - it's like a designer's style line; they picked up the bottom of the turn signal - top of the wheel arch, bottom of the door handle pocket and likely some to the rear.
johnhora
looks like a deep 6 fuchs on the dr front....great find
Jett
The license plate is cool!
rgalla9146

Damage on right front fender ?
Coondog
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Root_Werks
I agree, nice find!

Yup, looks like RF fender damage and missing windshield. BUT, a 1972 914-6, cool!
TRS63
Quelle belle découverte ! Es tu en train de la sauver ? Est ce son état actuel ?

What a great Fund! Are you currently saving it? Is it its current condition ?

Antoine
jd74914
Welcome!

Bet there aren't many other 914's in Algeria! smile.gif
Maltese Falcon
This would be cool to have re-mfg
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QUOTE(gulf908 @ Apr 21 2021, 01:22 AM) *

hi
does it still have the Sonauto badge ?
more pics please !

cheers
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QUOTE(rgalla9146 @ Apr 20 2021, 06:54 PM) *

Is the windshield missing ?


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QUOTE(jd74914 @ Apr 22 2021, 03:25 PM) *

Welcome!

Bet there aren't many other 914's in Algeria! smile.gif



this is the first I see
Root_Werks
Wow you are moving fast! Thanks for sharing all the pictures! Looking good!
Dion
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davep
This Sonauto badge was available 2 years ago:
https://www.early911sregistry.org/forums/sh...l-Sonauto-badge

The 1972 914/6 are interesting cars. A few steps forward, and a few steps back. Along with the 914/4 steering column and ignition switch, it appears the windshield washer is the 914/4 system. Were the upper front suspension mounts painted with tar like the earlier 914/6 or without tar like the 914/4?

Please look carefully for the Karmann body # in the rear trunk. It should be in the right rear corner near the right tail light with the form of 1320xxx where xxx should be close to the last three digits of the VIN.
Please get a photo of the VIN on the right inner fender and the paint badge .
There should also be a handwritten production # (may or may not be exactly the same as the Karmann body #) on the underside of the dash on the removable rear part.
Dave
mb911
Are you brazing it all?
peteyd
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Are you brazing it all?


I hope this is not the case!!

This needs to be done properly! The way this is going, rust is going to come through within a couple years after paint.

This is just the tip of the iceberg. You need to cut the entire sail panel off and blast behind there. I'm sorry to say, but this is not the correct way to be doing a restoration on a 914

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QUOTE(mb911 @ Apr 28 2021, 07:04 AM) *

Are you brazing it all?


I hope this is not the case!!

This needs to be done properly! The way this is going, rust is going to come through within a couple years after paint.

This is just the tip of the iceberg. You need to cut the entire sail panel off and blast behind there. I'm sorry to say, but this is not the correct way to be doing a restoration on a 914

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I cut the rust panel at the limit + 1MM on both sides.
I use primer filler pro before welding the new part.
mb911
Just keep in mind brazing is much like a glue and sticks different metals together but never becomes one like welding. Welding is where there is intermixing of all metals associated with the weld area/HAZ and becomes one thus less likely of future rust.


I teach welding and have for 20 years so not arm chair quarterbacking this statement. As long as you have removed all the rust brazing is an OK solution just not a Great solution.
KBMC1304
QUOTE(davep @ Apr 28 2021, 07:53 AM) *

This Sonauto badge was available 2 years ago:
https://www.early911sregistry.org/forums/sh...l-Sonauto-badge

The 1972 914/6 are interesting cars. A few steps forward, and a few steps back. Along with the 914/4 steering column and ignition switch, it appears the windshield washer is the 914/4 system. Were the upper front suspension mounts painted with tar like the earlier 914/6 or without tar like the 914/4?

Please look carefully for the Karmann body # in the rear trunk. It should be in the right rear corner near the right tail light with the form of 1320xxx where xxx should be close to the last three digits of the VIN.
Please get a photo of the VIN on the right inner fender and the paint badge .
There should also be a handwritten production # (may or may not be exactly the same as the Karmann body #) on the underside of the dash on the removable rear part.
Dave


The upper front suspension mounts painted with tar like the earlier 914/6.

and

this what I found on it

too much rust in the rear trunk but we can read 4 so I believe it's the same Karmann body number.

Khaled

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KBMC1304
QUOTE(mb911 @ Apr 28 2021, 11:55 AM) *

Just keep in mind brazing is much like a glue and sticks different metals together but never becomes one like welding. Welding is where there is intermixing of all metals associated with the weld area/HAZ and becomes one thus less likely of future rust.


I teach welding and have for 20 years so not arm chair quarterbacking this statement. As long as you have removed all the rust brazing is an OK solution just not a Great solution.


i understand!
i ensure you I have removed all the rust. personally i prefer use brazing when it's curved and thin. hop isn't the worst solution.
KBMC1304
QUOTE(davep @ Apr 28 2021, 07:53 AM) *

This Sonauto badge was available 2 years ago:
https://www.early911sregistry.org/forums/sh...l-Sonauto-badge

The 1972 914/6 are interesting cars. A few steps forward, and a few steps back. Along with the 914/4 steering column and ignition switch, it appears the windshield washer is the 914/4 system. Were the upper front suspension mounts painted with tar like the earlier 914/6 or without tar like the 914/4?

Please look carefully for the Karmann body # in the rear trunk. It should be in the right rear corner near the right tail light with the form of 1320xxx where xxx should be close to the last three digits of the VIN.
Please get a photo of the VIN on the right inner fender and the paint badge .
There should also be a handwritten production # (may or may not be exactly the same as the Karmann body #) on the underside of the dash on the removable rear part.
Dave


i don't have the original Engine, I want to know if the engine # 642XXX must be near than VIN KARMANN GEARBOX #
Khaled
gulf908
thanks for the update report
I am curious to know where the Sonauto badge was placed on the car
keep up the good work

cheers
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KBMC1304
QUOTE(gulf908 @ May 1 2021, 12:28 AM) *

thanks for the update report
I am curious to know where the Sonauto badge was placed on the car
keep up the good work

cheers
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Thank you very much for your support Dennis.

In the middle of the trunk

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QUOTE(KBMC1304 @ Apr 30 2021, 10:14 AM) *

i don't have the original Engine, I want to know if the engine # 642XXX must be near than VIN KARMANN GEARBOX #
Khaled

I can get the engine #, look for a personal message from me in the upper right of the screen.
Dave
Root_Werks
Holy Zeus! Keep going!
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FourBlades

Wow, excellent project, nice work!

Keep it going.

These are such fun cars to drive.

John
KBMC1304
QUOTE(FourBlades @ May 4 2021, 07:14 PM) *

Wow, excellent project, nice work!

Keep it going.

These are such fun cars to drive.

John



Thank you John, I can't wait to drive it

cheers
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rgalla9146
Your car has great potential but needs much care.
Where is that floor from ?
It is advisable to stabilize the door openings (and more) before doing the substantial
welding necessary...... to avoid disappointing results.
Bon chance.
SirAndy
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It is advisable to stabilize the door openings (and more) before doing the substantial
welding necessary...... to avoid disappointing results.
Bon chance.

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KBMC1304
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Your car has great potential but needs much care.
Where is that floor from ?
It is advisable to stabilize the door openings (and more) before doing the substantial
welding necessary...... to avoid disappointing results.
Bon chance.


The floor come from Restoration Design.

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I already stabilized the door, wings, hood and trunk openings before any welding.

I hope that I have done things good.

thank you for your advice.
i would appreciate more tips any advice would be welcomed



VegasRacer
Trans Sahara African Safari. ?
Was that a tour group. ? confused24.gif It is not an endurance race I have ever heard of.
KBMC1304
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Trans Sahara African Safari. ?
Was that a tour group. ? confused24.gif It is not an endurance race I have ever heard of.




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i did some research but didn't find anything
rgalla9146

Is it just me or do those floors look a bit unusual ?
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