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mobymutt
post Jun 11 2022, 03:29 PM
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The other current thread on LED headlights got me looking again.

Thoughts on functionality and fitment of these ones?

https://www.amazon.ca/Approved-Headlights-W...s/dp/B07L5BNYKK

My understanding is that it's the housing depth that can cause an issue with the compatibility.
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post Jun 11 2022, 06:22 PM
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I installed these. Bolt in.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B077P56CG8

Didn't find the "angel eyes" ones useful, given my headlights are down when I'm not using the headlights...
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post Jun 11 2022, 06:23 PM
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Not sure re depth fitment, but you don't want DRL's or turn signal functions unless you keep the lights up (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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post Jun 11 2022, 07:25 PM
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QUOTE(barefoot @ Jun 11 2022, 08:23 PM) *

Not sure re depth fitment, but you don't want DRL's or turn signal functions unless you keep the lights up (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)


Hmmm, good point. And I was just looking at those colour changing ones that you can control with your phone! Now I'm disappointed, haha.
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post Jun 11 2022, 07:28 PM
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QUOTE(GregAmy @ Jun 11 2022, 08:22 PM) *

I installed these. Bolt in.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B077P56CG8

Didn't find the "angel eyes" ones useful, given my headlights are down when I'm not using the headlights...


Did you list those in the other current thread? If so, that's where I started. But I can't find those on amazon canada, so hoping to find the equivalent.
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post Jun 11 2022, 07:31 PM
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H.I.D. kit took about 2hours to install. Used a pair of Hella H4 E code lens and a hid kit with a temp of 6000k (daylight) the harness on the kit plugs right into the stock plug but I had to add 2 holes between the trunk and headlight for the additional high voltage wiring. The kit draws about 8amps on startup and a constant 3amps. The systems is rated at 35 watts. Look at the difference between the headlight color and the fogs. The fogs used to match the Silverstar headlights that i removed. I love the look, and i will soon be upgrading my stock fogs to H3.


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post Jun 11 2022, 08:19 PM
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Nice that these HID mount into the stock H4 assembly. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

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... and i will soon be upgrading my stock fogs to H3.
Curious as to how this is done. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif) Are you referring to the Pilot Lights from Camp 914?

http://www.camp914.com/products.html
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post Jun 11 2022, 09:30 PM
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QUOTE(Montreal914 @ Jun 12 2022, 02:19 PM) *

Nice that these HID mount into the stock H4 assembly. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

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... and i will soon be upgrading my stock fogs to H3.
Curious as to how this is done. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif) Are you referring to the Pilot Lights from Camp 914?

http://www.camp914.com/products.html

Just got my set working and well pleased,upgraded the fuse to 15amp as these draw more than the 35W fogs,bought mine a long time ago and understand they are now out of production think 914werke found some NOS ones but expect they are sold by now ?.
Didn't respond to the headlight LED's as I had to remove them as now not legal in my country ,these wasn't the case when I fitted them (IMG:style_emoticons/default/headbang.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/headbang.gif) .
My solution was to run h4s with modern tech Narva 130 lamps, still pretty good lighting IMO.
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post Jun 12 2022, 01:15 AM
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QUOTE(mobymutt @ Jun 11 2022, 02:29 PM) *

The other current thread on LED headlights got me looking again.

Thoughts on functionality and fitment of these ones?

https://www.amazon.ca/Approved-Headlights-W...s/dp/B07L5BNYKK

My understanding is that it's the housing depth that can cause an issue with the compatibility.

There is a good comparison video on youtube. Most of the LED housings suck. Unfortunately the presenters idea of a good light pattern also sucks.

Years ago I went with HID in original Cibie Ecode H4 housings and like them very much. I had to move wires on the relay so the power stayed on when hitting high beam.

My DD Chevy got LED bulbs which are about as good as it's going to get with the small plastic housings and subpar spotlight looking beam pattern.
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post Jun 12 2022, 08:20 AM
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QUOTE(mobymutt @ Jun 11 2022, 09:28 PM) *
Did you list those in the other current thread?

Unlikely. There's so many threads on LEDs that usually devolve into arguments about who has the best ones and which ones are crap and these don't look right even though I don't see them when the headlights are down that I rarely reply to these LED topics any more.

I'll defer to the two DIPA I had last night as to why I replied to this one.

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Bottom line, search for "Jeep LEDs". They use the 1970s standard of 7" sealed beams which was required by NHTSA for all USA cars of that era.

Or you can buy the spendy stuff that looks period-correct when you have your headligths up during the day. Depends on your needs.
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post Jun 12 2022, 01:37 PM
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QUOTE(GregAmy @ Jun 12 2022, 10:20 AM) *

QUOTE(mobymutt @ Jun 11 2022, 09:28 PM) *
Did you list those in the other current thread?

Unlikely. There's so many threads on LEDs that usually devolve into arguments about who has the best ones and which ones are crap and these don't look right even though I don't see them when the headlights are down that I rarely reply to these LED topics any more.

I'll defer to the two DIPA I had last night as to why I replied to this one.

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Bottom line, search for "Jeep LEDs". They use the 1970s standard of 7" sealed beams which was required by NHTSA for all USA cars of that era.

Or you can buy the spendy stuff that looks period-correct when you have your headligths up during the day. Depends on your needs.


Thanks! Cheap and bright (and zero mods) is what I need. I don't drive at night except coming home from the track, and it's all back roads anyway, so I'm not going to be picky about the beam pattern. I would just prefer to get something that somebody else has already verified will fit, so I don't waste my money.
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post Jun 14 2022, 02:36 AM
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My Galaxy S10 takes great looking pics, as it also 'enhances' color definition and low light, but you get the gist of it.

35w HID 4300k bulbs. Today the Hella Ecode h4 are a little under $100 and my HID setup is also about $100 so it's not cheap, but....

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That house at the end is 5 houses and a cross street away. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/shades.gif)

This is 05 New Beetle, projector lights with standard bulbs. You can get an idea of the light balance compared to the 914 HID.

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post Jun 14 2022, 03:43 AM
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I also bought SeaLight X2 LEDs for the daily. Fun comparison and also why they sometimes don't improve.

07 Toyota Highlander. The pics are misleading, this turned out great.

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Stock 9005 & 9006
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Half led. Good example of needing to aim down as the LED really is a few inches high. Good quality LED unit too, so I guess nobody is perfect. Also a good example of perceived glare. You didn't see the over garage cameras in the stock pic did you. When you double the lumens...
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04 Chevy Blazer. I think the stock beam pattern sucks... can't see potholes or other potentially bad objects on the ground.

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You can see how the LED light source spacing has influenced the pattern. In this case I think wider is better. Also notice how lit up the trim is compared to the others. That's old school US spec headlights in action. Some would call that glare. An HID in this would be blinding.

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This is my infamous Nissan Partsfinder. 1 standard name brand bulb, 1 80/100w 4300k cheap Chinese bulb. How do you make and sell something this far off specs?
Another example of old school US spec headlights in action. Factory option fog lights required for off-roading.

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post Jun 22 2022, 11:11 AM
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Although the halos serve no useful purpose, I couldn't resist. Ended up with the ones that you can change the halo colours via your cellphone. My 13 year old daughters agree with my choice!

https://www.amazon.ca/Aukmak-Headlights-Mul...7/dp/B072563VPN

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post Jun 22 2022, 04:54 PM
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mobymutt. Great last post.
Got halo - Angel eyes on a BMW e36 with the option of not having them on, and they don't look out of place when off.
(Just a guess) DOT LED lights will be an improvement more than 2x over my originals,, maybe H4s.
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post Jun 22 2022, 08:57 PM
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When I test fit the lights yesterday, I had both high and low beams working. Now that I've actually installed them, I've lost the low beam on the passenger side. Turns out that I don't have power to the low beam at the headlight connector. Seems weird considering I had power there yesterday -- makes me think fuse. Are the headlights fused independently? Anywhere else I should be looking?
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High and low are separately fused, and separate for each side. Four fuses in total.

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QUOTE(mobymutt @ Jun 22 2022, 07:57 PM) *

When I test fit the lights yesterday, I had both high and low beams working. Now that I've actually installed them, I've lost the low beam on the passenger side. Turns out that I don't have power to the low beam at the headlight connector. Seems weird considering I had power there yesterday -- makes me think fuse. Are the headlights fused independently? Anywhere else I should be looking?

Test them independently off the vehicle. We went through quite a few manufacturers before we started selling the ones we do on our site. It's quite common for the power supplies on these to fail. That has always been the weak link we have found.
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post Jun 23 2022, 07:37 PM
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Well, it was just a fuse after all, phew!

Next up, headlight adjustment. I drove the car tonight, and one headlight was aimed about 4 feet in front of the car, and the other was hitting the top of the trees!
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post Jun 23 2022, 08:53 PM
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^^ sounds like you didn't get the notches lines up.
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