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bajafreaks
post Jun 28 2023, 05:22 PM
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Is there a trick/secret method to removing the factory tar coating on the floor pans?
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post Jun 28 2023, 05:57 PM
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Is there a trick/secret method to removing the factory tar coating on the floor pans?


I saw a cool method by placing bags of dry ice for 15 minute the stuff just popped right off. Never tried it but I will next time.
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post Jun 28 2023, 05:57 PM
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I used a heat gun and scraper, some people use dry ice.


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post Jun 28 2023, 06:03 PM
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I vote for dry ice. Easiest and most effective method.
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post Jun 28 2023, 06:11 PM
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Oh man there is a better way! See link below-

Personally I just have an air chisel that worked pretty well too.


http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-911...method-yet.html
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post Jun 28 2023, 06:12 PM
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Question I have is what do you paint it with? Sounds like Por-15 is overkill... I am thinking of doing some grey epoxy.
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post Jun 28 2023, 06:14 PM
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QUOTE(bajafreaks @ Jun 28 2023, 06:22 PM) *

Is there a trick/secret method to removing the factory tar coating on the floor pans?


I saw a cool method by placing bags of dry ice for 15 minute the stuff just popped right off. Never tried it but I will next time.

Please film it and show us.

Last time I did it was heat gun, hand chisels, scapers, screw drivers, wire brush on drill.
Hours and hours of cleaning up.
Then lacquer thinner
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post Jun 28 2023, 07:55 PM
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QUOTE(Justinp71 @ Jun 28 2023, 04:12 PM) *

Question I have is what do you paint it with? Sounds like Por-15 is overkill... I am thinking of doing some grey epoxy.

I’m wondering the same.

I was thinking of something like Eastwood’s grey epoxy primer.
Then ???
Then install my noico sound deadener.

What says the 914world brain trust?
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post Jun 28 2023, 10:29 PM
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Might have been overkill, but after removing all the rust I used Por15. Can be applied with a brush but ends up looking like you sprayed it. Since my car is black I went with black Por15.
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post Jun 28 2023, 11:22 PM
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Found this online . Cheers (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beer.gif)
Tar removal with dry ice post. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/slap.gif)
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post Jun 29 2023, 07:23 AM
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QUOTE(Justinp71 @ Jun 28 2023, 05:11 PM) *

Oh man there is a better way! See link below-

Personally I just have an air chisel that worked pretty well too.


http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-911...method-yet.html


Ive got a multi tool I'll give that a try. Thanks
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post Jun 29 2023, 12:11 PM
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Something I'd like to do to my 914 at some point as well. Thinking ice and popping off sounds cleaner than heat gun.
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post Jun 29 2023, 12:14 PM
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here are some pics from one I did long time ago via regular heat gun and chisel method...worked fine just takes a little time a patience...a little heat and comes right up...also it's an inexpensive method
it was also a study in weight saving for tracked 914s...see the 5 gal bucket...have the weight somewhere

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post Jun 29 2023, 12:29 PM
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Assuming this stuff (tar like crap) and the underside is sound, why not leave things alone? It may have some sound dampening characteristics.
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post Jun 29 2023, 01:33 PM
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Assuming this stuff (tar like crap) and the underside is sound, why not leave things alone? It may have some sound dampening characteristics.


Because my pan has surface rust and needs to be treated.
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post Jun 29 2023, 02:28 PM
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Or to install the inner long stiffening kit...
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post Jun 29 2023, 02:40 PM
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Incase it was overlooked, multi-tool! I will add a photo this time.


Read this post they said it worked very well.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-911...method-yet.html


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post Jun 29 2023, 02:57 PM
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QUOTE(930cabman @ Jun 29 2023, 11:29 AM) *

Assuming this stuff (tar like crap) and the underside is sound, why not leave things alone? It may have some sound dampening characteristics.


It has some sound dampening characteristics, but removing it is a great way to remove weight, and you can use something lighter like dynamat instead.

I didn't really notice a big difference when I removed the tar in my car and decided not to install any sound deadening material under the carpet.

You also can't be sure if there's any rust underneath without removing the stuff first. Even if it looks ok, there's often some rust in areas, like around the pedal cluster or around the e-brake.
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post Jun 29 2023, 08:18 PM
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I pulled all my sound deadener out with an electric chisel. Then. I brushed on some acoustic treatment (second skin, audio treatment and sound deadener) which I mixed with little bubbles the fiberglass guys use on boats. Then I sprayed everything with bedliner.

Removing the tar stuff sucks, no matter how you do it.
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post Jun 30 2023, 09:03 AM
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I have used the dry ice method and it is AWESOME!

You don't need to let the bag of dry ice sit for 15 minutes. About 5 does the trick. Then just smack it with a hammer and the tar just shatters. Use a scraper to get under it and it comes up in sheets. And there are no fumes you are breathing in and no gummy tools. Takes about the same amount of time as a torch and a scraper.

Bonus, on a hot sticky day, for once work on your car has a cooling effect!

The downside is that you do find a store selling dry ice - which can be a pain, and you have the do the whole job at once or go buy more dry ice.

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