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EJP914
post Jul 19 2023, 02:11 PM
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Cleaning up some things under my car.

Noticed the cable guide wheel on the side of the transaxle is a mess of grease and dirt.

Is the groove on the edge of wheel where the cable rests supposed to be greased/ lubed or is to remain dry?

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post Jul 19 2023, 02:12 PM
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QUOTE(EJP914 @ Jul 19 2023, 01:11 PM) *

Cleaning up some things under my car.

Noticed the cable guide wheel on the side of the transaxle is a mess of grease and dirt.

Is the groove on the edge of wheel where the cable rests supposed to be greased/ lubed or is to remain dry?

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Per the factory manual, the cable is supposed to be lubed, but there is also a rubber boot on the cable to prevent dirt from sticking to the cable and wheel. If you don't have the boot, I would not grease the cable.
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post Jul 19 2023, 03:19 PM
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The cable doesn’t need to be lubricated. The bushing on the inside of the wheel needs to be.
Here are all the parts, but you probably don’t need the whole kit.
Here’s the search for all related parts
https://914rubber.com/search/?q=Cable+&pPgNo=2


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post Jul 19 2023, 04:03 PM
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From the factory manual, but most people that I know of including myself do not lubricate the cable since it attracts dirt and causes premature failure.
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post Jul 19 2023, 05:10 PM
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Over the years, I’ve had several clutch cables deteriorate where the cable wraps around the wheel. Sand and dirt get in between the wire strands and cause abrasion.
Good idea to check before a long trip before leaving.
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post Jul 19 2023, 05:38 PM
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All of my parts are in good shape. Dont need to replace anything. Its just all packed with grease and dirt up. It cleaned up real well
Sounds like all are saying lube the cable and leave the guide wheel groove alone or am I not reading this right?
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post Jul 19 2023, 05:41 PM
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Error in last reply. Do not grease the cable appears to be standard practice.
Thx for the replies
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post Jul 20 2023, 07:20 AM
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replacing the Clevis is the most important part of maintaining this portion of the car - the factory clevis will break, the one supplied by 914rubber will not fail.

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post Jul 20 2023, 07:26 AM
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I always grease the cable and the wheel
Not hard to clean up every few years as maintenance
38 years of this so far on multiple cars
I don’t believe this causes premature wear. At least that’s my experience
But I do clean and repack about every other year
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post Jul 21 2023, 08:16 AM
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replacing the Clevis is the most important part of maintaining this portion of the car - the factory clevis will break, the one supplied by 914rubber will not fail.

Learn from my flatbed experience! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)


You should probably read this thread on the clutch clevis:

http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=364341

The factory original clevis is NLA and plastic/nylon. I have not seen one in years.

The one 914Rubber sells is fine, but not quite optimal.

Just my $.02
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post Jul 21 2023, 06:10 PM
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It seemed weird that the clutch cable and pulley would be exposed to the elements so I printed a cover to protect the pulley and cable.


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post Jul 21 2023, 06:15 PM
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post Jul 22 2023, 09:19 PM
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I like that Spoke ^^ - with a bit of refinement I bet it would be a good seller if put on the market .. cause I think lots of owners feel the same about it being exposed.


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post Jul 23 2023, 07:24 AM
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QUOTE(930cabman @ Jul 22 2023, 09:15 AM) *

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I printed my pulley-haha. It’s actually a cam to increase the travel of the throw out lever.

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Love the cover Spoke. Might have to give that a shot. What material is it? I’m worried about my ASA pulley losing shape when hot. Also considering printing a console cover since my shaft comes out the back o the one I have now leaving the shift components a little exposed.

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post Jul 23 2023, 09:32 AM
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QUOTE(peteinjp @ Jul 23 2023, 06:24 AM) *

What material is it? I’m worried about my ASA pulley losing shape when hot. Also considering printing a console cover since my shaft comes out the back o the one I have now leaving the shift components a little exposed.

Pete

If your printer works with ABS, that might be good enough. It is thermal resistant up to 85C (185F). I've used it on some car things, but nothing that close to the engine or transmission.
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post Jul 23 2023, 06:09 PM
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QUOTE(peteinjp @ Jul 23 2023, 09:24 AM) *

QUOTE(930cabman @ Jul 22 2023, 09:15 AM) *

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I printed my pulley-haha. It’s actually a cam to increase the travel of the throw out lever.

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Love the cover Spoke. Might have to give that a shot. What material is it? I’m worried about my ASA pulley losing shape when hot. Also considering printing a console cover since my shaft comes out the back o the one I have now leaving the shift components a little exposed.

Pete


I use PETG for all my LED printing. It's not as temperature stable as ABS but it seems to have higher layer-layer adhesion.
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post Jul 25 2023, 07:51 PM
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Thanks guys- good to know. I'll just carry tools and hopefully it won't be a problem. Just not interested in laying down on the hot pavement in the middle of nowhere.....

ASA has slightly higher heat deflection than PETG at around 93c(200f) My engine runs at 110c(230f) so I imagine it would be ok. I want to order some nylon for these types of parts.




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post Jul 25 2023, 09:38 PM
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Your exhaust temps are what to worry about more than engine or oil temps
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QUOTE(brant @ Jul 26 2023, 12:38 PM) *

Your exhaust temps are what to worry about more than engine or oil temps



True- I figured if Spoke's cover was holding up then I'd be ok but I do have the 6 so it may be closer to the exhaust.

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post Jul 26 2023, 05:11 AM
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I purchased a pulley years ago from Tangerine Racing made from Delrin.
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