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| DanT |
  Oct 31 2005, 09:41 PM
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Going back to the Dark Side!  Group: Members Posts: 4,300 Joined: 4-October 04 From: Auburn, CA Member No.: 2,880 Region Association: None  |
For those of you using these for AX/DE/TT...what height are you using...
1st,2nd,3rd or 4th spring stop starting from the top? How does it affect your front geometry? or does it? When you have the car either level or slightly raked front to rear. Bump steer a problem? Rack spaced? Thanks (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/wacko.gif) |
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| J P Stein |
Oct 31 2005, 09:54 PM
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Irrelevant old fart Group: Members Posts: 8,797 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Vancouver, WA Member No.: 45 Region Association: None |
I use the doughnuts to measure to the ground....a fairly level concrete surface, actually. Presently, the dimemsions are 4.75" all around. This leaves me with about 2.5 inches of travel in the struts.....with one "bump" cut off the bump stop. I use a rack spacer kit. No problems with bump steer.....yet. As the suspension compresses, you gain negative camber. The "yet" is, hopefully not going to be an issue when I install the raised spindle struts I have. I've found someone locally to joggle the pitman arms. I'll probably use the gain for suspension travel rather than lower the car. They do allow me to fool with the ride height some, should I get the notion. Seems to me I used the 5th groove from the bottom....I now have the threaded collars....I'll have to go look at old pics to verify that. |
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| Aaron Cox |
Oct 31 2005, 10:03 PM
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Professional Lawn Dart Group: Retired Admin Posts: 24,541 Joined: 1-February 03 From: OC Member No.: 219 Region Association: Southern California |
i use 3rd from bottom (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/smile.gif) LOW (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/wink.gif)
goin threaded perches soon |
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| J P Stein |
Oct 31 2005, 10:07 PM
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Irrelevant old fart Group: Members Posts: 8,797 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Vancouver, WA Member No.: 45 Region Association: None |
No old pics. Found a newer pic. 5th would be about right per my eyeball.
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| dlo914 |
Oct 31 2005, 10:07 PM
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Whatchu' lookin' at?!?! Group: Members Posts: 3,432 Joined: 6-September 04 From: San Gabriel, CA Member No.: 2,697 |
also third from the bottom. |
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| nine14cats |
Oct 31 2005, 11:16 PM
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Bill Pickering -- 914-6 GT aka....Leeloo Group: Members Posts: 2,618 Joined: 10-February 03 From: Campbell, CA Member No.: 287 Region Association: None |
Hi Dan,
Do you have adjustable collars? I may have an extra set laying around in the trailer if you want them for cheap. I ran the Bils with the adjustables on our 914-6 you drove. I can't remember if I've sold them or not..... (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/wacko.gif) I'll look in the trailer tomorrow.... Bill P. |
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| DanT |
Oct 31 2005, 11:28 PM
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Going back to the Dark Side! Group: Members Posts: 4,300 Joined: 4-October 04 From: Auburn, CA Member No.: 2,880 Region Association: None |
Bill,
Do the collars work with the normal inside diameter springs like Weltmeisters or do you need the narrower springs with the 2.5" inside diameter? Let me know if you find them and which springs will work with them. Thanks Dan (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif) |
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| Aaron Cox |
Oct 31 2005, 11:34 PM
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Professional Lawn Dart Group: Retired Admin Posts: 24,541 Joined: 1-February 03 From: OC Member No.: 219 Region Association: Southern California |
mike mueller is modded stock perch to work with threaded collars... the benefit of 2.5" race springs is that ANY spring rate can be had |
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| DanT |
Nov 1 2005, 12:00 AM
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Going back to the Dark Side! Group: Members Posts: 4,300 Joined: 4-October 04 From: Auburn, CA Member No.: 2,880 Region Association: None |
Being able to use various spring rates is nice and all, but I just want to be able to use my 180s.
My previous 914-6 had them with Bilsteins and they worked very well. I used the stock Bil snap rings with weltmeister 180s. Ran 205 tires and turned 1:49-1:50s at Laguna. I want to try to duplicate my set up on my new 914-4 if possible. Should be able to turn ~1:55+ with the 4 banger....at least that is my goal. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/rolleyes.gif) I would like to hear from Mike about his modded spring perch. |
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| r_towle |
Nov 1 2005, 08:49 AM
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Custom Member Group: Members Posts: 24,574 Joined: 9-January 03 From: Taxachusetts Member No.: 124 Region Association: North East States 
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I set the rears at the second from the bottom.
I have the weltmeister 180lb springs. AutoX and street. I learned that the front of the car should be about 1/4 inch higher than the rear for autoX...dont know about a good track setup...but it works GREAT fro autox. I just went from even in front and back to having the back slightly below the front....it helps alot on braking and weight transfer... besides, its an easy swap. I have no bump stops on any of my shocks. I also have 23 mm torsion bars and 22 mm front sway... Rich |
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| Mueller |
Nov 1 2005, 09:38 AM
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914 Freak! Group: Members Posts: 17,146 Joined: 4-January 03 From: Antioch, CA Member No.: 87 Region Association: None
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Hi Dan,
Here is a thread on it, please excuse how "crude" it is (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/smile.gif) mods for stock diameter springs w/adj perches You can see in the picture the modified spring perch, all I did was cut it in my lathe to fit over the threaded tube to rest on the collar. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads/post-2-1119289815.jpg) |
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| Gint |
Nov 1 2005, 05:32 PM
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Mike Ginter Group: Admin Posts: 16,075 Joined: 26-December 02 From: Denver CO. Member No.: 20 Region Association: Rocky Mountains  |
6 notches from the bottom on this 2.0. Probably tired stock springs also.
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| DanT |
Nov 1 2005, 05:40 PM
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Going back to the Dark Side! Group: Members Posts: 4,300 Joined: 4-October 04 From: Auburn, CA Member No.: 2,880 Region Association: None |
Thanks for the replies guys.
The way Mike modded the stock perches is pretty nice. I would love to see some pics of some of the stock bodied cars from the side view with the lowered stances. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/chair.gif) |
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