Price of Jake's 2270cc, With all bells & whilses Options

[SLITS]

QUOTE (Aaron Cox @ Nov 27 2005, 11:20 AM)

QUOTE (bd1308 @ Nov 27 2005, 10:31 AM) so he's done with the 914? trek, your right man...AND the 911 community is solid...no egocentric people that cry like raby (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/ph34r.gif) and this is JUST a 2270? imagine what a bigger engine would be? b ok mr two face..... "raby raby - when is your super MPG motor going to be done? sign me up!!!" and now QUOTE trek, your right man...AND the 911 community is solid...no egocentric people that cry like raby whats up with that? MY OPINION on this? none of this is any of our business. not our job to be involved between jake, roger, and god, or either's bankers.... this isnt about a six vs four debate....its about a guy wanted a super 4, and backed out because of a large jump in price. looks like some miscommunication between the above peoples.... again. not our place to be involved. what will this acccomplish? driving an expert from out club. ill never beable to afford a raby motor...but i sure as hell appreciate all the tech advice he puts out here for free. jump on the bandwagon and tear someone a new one, when we ourselves have no direct involvement. not our place to meddle...and share our opinions of either party. why are we all so divisive? one club, for one automobile..... this thread sucks. im outta here for a while

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I told you not to wear those pink panties A-aron...they would just wad up on ya.








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[J P Stein]

The hell with (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/popcorn[1].gif)

As someone said, Jake doesn't force anyone to go out on the ledge....edge...with him. He wants you to pay for the trip, tho. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif)
If you are so obsessed with being the underdog T-4 guy that you are willing to finance it, by all means, do so.

Ralph took a second look & chose not to. Pretty simple, eh?...Jake's histronics notwithstanding.

As a few have pointed out, this may drive Jake away from the fold. He has stated that, basicly, he needs 914 guys like he needs another hole in his head. The reverse it also true, of course. Most of Jake's "help" have been more like self promotion, IMO. Others who help, just for the hell of it, don't seem to attract such a rabid following.....which should tell us something.

If it takes 11K or 19k to make a silk purse of a T-4, that is
Jakes problem, not mine. For some prospective, a wide guts race 911 motor can easily top 30K. The bang for the buck ratio is up to each of us to decide.

That's it for me.
Back for more (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/popcorn[1].gif)
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Get a grip, AAaron. Both parties brought the situation to the club's attention. What are we supposed to do, sit here and drool?

[Aaron Cox]

no big deal. i said it was my opinion, and others are entitled to share theirs also.



i got a PM saying my above post will result in a lawyer contacting me... ROFL (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/chairfall.gif)

[rhodyguy]

please refrain from talking after the feature film has started. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/smile.gif)

k

[TROJANMAN]

QUOTE (Aaron Cox @ Nov 27 2005, 10:20 AM)

this thread sucks. im outta here for a while

could you be a little more original please. that is so cliche these days (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/rolleyes.gif)



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[SLITS]

QUOTE (rhodyguy @ Nov 27 2005, 11:54 AM)

please refrain from talking after the feature film has started. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/smile.gif) k

Sorry Kevin...I thought we were in the middle of a cartoon....

[Aaron Cox]

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eh...i aint goin nowhere. sarcasm. just posted my opinion. take it for what it is worth (nothing? lol)

too funny.

lawyer (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/chairfall.gif)

[J P Stein]

QUOTE (rhodyguy @ Nov 27 2005, 10:54 AM)

please refrain from talking after the feature film has started. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/smile.gif) k

Now *that* is funny (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/popcorn[1].gif)

[TROJANMAN]

QUOTE (SLITS @ Nov 27 2005, 10:31 AM)

I told you not to wear those pink panties A-aron...they would just wad up on ya.

aaron in pink panties? do i smell a calendar pic in the works? (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/chairfall.gif)

was that lawyer threat serious? (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/wacko.gif)

[olav]

QUOTE (TROJANMAN @ Nov 27 2005, 11:08 AM)

QUOTE (SLITS @ Nov 27 2005, 10:31 AM) I told you not to wear those pink panties A-aron...they would just wad up on ya. aaron in pink panties? do i smell a calendar pic in the works? (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/chairfall.gif)

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[Aaron Cox]

QUOTE (olav @ Nov 27 2005, 12:13 PM)

QUOTE (TROJANMAN @ Nov 27 2005, 11:08 AM) QUOTE (SLITS @ Nov 27 2005, 10:31 AM) I told you not to wear those pink panties A-aron...they would just wad up on ya. aaron in pink panties? do i smell a calendar pic in the works? (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/chairfall.gif) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/bootyshake.gif)

ill do it for 19k... (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif)

[Bleyseng]

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[SLITS]

Time's have changed
Our members are getting worse
They won't obey their admins
They just want to fart and curse

Should we blame the admins?
Or blame Jake Raby?
Or should we blame the images in the garage?

No. Blame Canada

Blame Canada

With all their beady little eyes
And flapping heads so full of lies

Blame Canada

Blame Canada

We need to form a full assault
It's Canada's fault
Don't blame me

For my son Britt
He saw the darn post
And now he's off to hire a lawyer

And my boy Aaron once
Had my picture on his shelf
But now when I see him he tells me to f**k myself!

Well? Blame Canada

Blame Canada

It seems that everything's gone wrong
Since Canada came along

Blame Canada
Blame Canada

They're not even a real country anyway
My son could have been a doctor or a lawyer, rich and true
Instead he burned up like a piggy on a barbecue
Should we blame the matches?
Should we blame the fire?
Or the doctors who allowed him to expire?
Heck No
Blame Canada

Blame Canada
With all their hockey hullaballu
And that bitch Anne Murray too
Blame Canada
Shame on Canada
For the smut we must stop
The trash we must smash
Laughter and fun
must all be undone
We must blame them and cause a fuss
Before somebody thinks of blaming us!















I offer no apologies to South Park

[dmenche914]

Ok, got to laugh reading this thing. Looks like both parties should have had something in writting before cash was traded hands. Both parties equally at fault, but no big deal, live and learn. I'd never leave a deposit with out the full terms in writting, signed dated etc... Also I would not accept a deposit without the full terms in writting, signed dated etc...

Funny that the $11k rough estimate is about the standard price, and the options bump it up to the higher value. Just a hunch that maybe there was a missunderstanding on the the phone on the $11k, and since niether party got it in writting, we'll never know who really understood what was the real deal. So now we got a he said she said thing going. Maybe Jake ment to say the $11k was the non-option price, but he misspoke, or maybe the buyer missheard that the $11k was for the whole deal. Folks make mistakes. Paper work helps prevent mistakes.

This is really dumb, cause now there are accusations that quite frankly can't be backed up cause there was no paperwork when the money traded hands.

Shame on both of you for not putting it in writting, now go too your rooms and don't come out until you can both appologize for this stupid saga being posted here. I hope both of you learned from this experience. It cost both of you, Jake lost bussiness for his time slot, and the other guy lost his deposit. I say this should be a good leason learned for all of us on how important a contract is before money changes hands.

Frankly both you guys have embaressed yourselves by letting us all know how you made such a deal with no contract.

If your both real men, just apologize to each other (and please not on the public fourm, that would be grandstanding at this point) and move on.

That said I hope you get a nice engine, and that Jake continues to have good bussiness. I wish you both well.

[Brando]

I think the big question unanswered here is:

"Would the $19.500 for that engine have been worth it?"

My answer... Oh hell yes. But not everyone has that kind of chump change.

[qa1142]

Listen
I talked with Jake on a kit. Yes he charges $$ and does great work. I decided I could not afford a full treat from him, no miss understanding, that said I puchased several key parts for my new motor from him knowing I got good advice (for free) and owed him the business.

What does any engine cost if it is coming from the top builder in the country? Top line 911 rebuld is more like $30K. Yes V8 crate motors can be had for $5K but what do you think Hendrick's or one of those guys would charge?

If I had deep pockets and full racer I would spend that kind of change. He gets enough business and does great work, no one who does business and buys his stuff complains.....do they?

Sorry you had miss communication, or that once he was talking $11K you still sent deposit.

Jake is high end, Matt Hoffman in high end, you pay the $$ you get really good (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/drooley.gif)

My 2 cents

[Aaron Cox]

QUOTE (qa1142 @ Nov 27 2005, 03:00 PM)

Jake is high end, Matt Hoffman in high end, you pay the $$ you get really good (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/drooley.gif)

matt hoffman? the BMX legend?
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or len hoffman, the vw head guy?

[scotty b]

Mr Cox, I am Matt Hoffmans lawyer and want to inforn you in writing that you will soon be recieving a cease and decist order,banning you from using the likeness and name of my client in your online chatroom hyjinx. If you use Mr. hoffmans likeness one more time you will be subject to fines the like of which you have never seen Mr Hoffman makes his living off of his name and hard werk, and does not care for peons such as yourself to use it for their own personal gains.

Have a nice day, Herman How

[Mark Henry]

QUOTE (SLITS @ Nov 27 2005, 04:59 PM)

No. Blame Canada Blame Canada With all their beady little eyes And flapping heads so full of lies Blame Canada Blame Canada We need to form a full assault It's Canada's fault Don't blame me Well? Blame Canada Blame Canada It seems that everything's gone wrong Since Canada came along Blame Canada Blame Canada They're not even a real country anyway My son could have been a doctor or a lawyer, rich and true Instead he burned up like a piggy on a barbecue Should we blame the matches? Should we blame the fire? Or the doctors who allowed him to expire? Heck No Blame Canada Blame Canada With all their hockey hullaballu And that bitch Anne Murray too Blame Canada Shame on Canada For the smut we must stop The trash we must smash Laughter and fun must all be undone We must blame them and cause a fuss Before somebody thinks of blaming us!

Slits...Canada says fuck you!

We still have the best weed

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[Air_Cooled_Nut]

QUOTE (Mark Henry @ Nov 27 2005, 03:16 PM)

We still have the best weed

And skinnier women (well, people in general from my observations)!

As to "chasing away someone"...well, if that's the way they want to handle the situation, let 'em! It's always being said in here you need a thick skin. And if people are airing their problems here then damn right we can respond as it is a public forum.

Hmmm, $20K for a silk-purse 4-banger (nice, JP!) or a race prepped 6-banger? Seems to me the six would win, what's $10K more for, well, more? (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif) Of course, for a street car I wouldn't want the "race prepped" engine so that would be money saved (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/beerchug.gif)

If it'is true that Raby's engines are the best then heck yeah they're gonna cost more. You pay for what you get and he should run with that American Dream! And if someone has the money to burn, let'em burn it! If he really does need 914 like a hole in the head then screw him, I wouldn't want him either. My guess that was said in simple frustration (he does seem to be frustrated a lot) and I hope he didn't honestly mean it as his personal research has benefited the T4 engine community. Passion for what he does comes in spades but the boy needs to delegate and take more vacations or rest periods. Burning out in ones passion isn't a pleasant life experience!

I can't believe a lawyer would be worried over a public forum (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/hijacked.gif) Must be a green one...what's he gonna do, monitor every chat and BBS, tap phone lines, read people's mail, etc. so his poor wittle client doesn't get his itty bitty feewings hurt? (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/screwy.gif)