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> Price of Jake's 2270cc, With all bells & whilses
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post Nov 27 2005, 06:38 PM
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So how much good canadian grass can you stuff in the trunks, and send on south? Seems we need to smoke the mellow, or even the bomb. Can't you see we need to chill, send it south man, send it south.

Hey with the interest in alternate fuels, why not a pot burning 914 (hell VW had wood burning Bugs back in WWII days, really)

It would save oil, employ farmers, can been grown domestically, and would really lessen the impact of smog (or at least our negitive impressions of smog)!

Canada could form OPBC (Organization of Pot Burning Countries)!

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post Nov 27 2005, 07:09 PM
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isnt everything legal in Canada?
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post Nov 27 2005, 07:38 PM
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This thread cracks me up. However there is alot of wisdom spoken by a few people here. Couple of old guys and some with the insight of the operation. I know what the Jake's big motors cost, seen the bill my self. Promised not to let it out and I am a man of MY word. (buddy you ain't even close)
Couple pages back someone complained about not getting his car fixed all summer. Geesh you coulda bought a book and done it yourself!!!
Why is it that some people are afraid of a little grease and oil. If you think there is ONLY one person that can build a freaking engine.... (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/pray.gif) well pay the nice man and move on.

I agree there was some miscomunication on both sides. Nobodies perfect and as long as you learn from your mistakes well Great. IF IT AIN'T IN WRITING (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/flipa.gif)
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post Nov 27 2005, 08:16 PM
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QUOTE (Aaron Cox @ Nov 27 2005, 02:46 PM)
QUOTE (qa1142 @ Nov 27 2005, 03:00 PM)

Jake is high end, Matt Hoffman in high end, you pay the $$ you get really good  :drooley:

matt hoffman? the BMX legend?
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or len hoffman, the vw head guy?

matt len what the H_lls the difference (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/dry.gif)

I would still have Jake build me a motor is money was no object. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/dead horse.gif)
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post Nov 27 2005, 08:51 PM
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I think Jake is off his meds, and I like the guy. I just checked his forum at www.shoptalkforums.com (scroll down to Aircooled Technology) and read some of his "announcements"

This whole $200 to get on the waiting list, then, at some point in the distant future, he'll put a proposal together which will include more specific pricing, and at that point 50% of the balance is due without question, is just nuckin futz.

He considers it backing out if you put down $200 to get on the waiting list, then you decline once the proposal is made. I kind of like the idea of paying a small refundable amount to get on the waiting list. It weeds out many of the dreamers. There should be no hard feelings at all if someone chooses to decline the final proposal months later. At that point, you'd cheerfully refund the money, thank them for the interest free loan, and move on to the next guy on your year long wait list.

It is pure insanity to expect someone to be held to numbers that are totally at your discretion.

If you go read his announcement in the aforementioned forum, he says and I quote:

"Porsche 914 customers have left me high and dry more than anyone else (sorry guys it's the truth) in fact 13 out of the 14 times this has occured in the last 4 years. So this is the 914 payment schedule

-90% of the ESTIMATED cost of the engine before being added to the wait list.

- Remainder due within 10 days of the completion of the engine.

The proposal process is altered for the 914 customers due to the 90% payment up front, my lawyer will handle this process for 914 customers and it will occur immediately upon the start of the project."


Notice that he refers to 90% of the ESTIMATED cost.......... he's telling us all to kiss his ass.

Genius may in fact be maddening. Oh, for the record, Jake has not contributed any worthwhile technical assistance for quite some time.

(To any lawyers who may take issue with the above, they are only my opinions to which I am fully entitled. Any attempts to use the Americans with Disabilities Act to justify the behavior in question will be immediately laughed at without reservation.)
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post Nov 27 2005, 08:53 PM
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If you plunk down a deposit on a 10-20K motor and do not have a bid in writing then you are almost as dumb as me!!!!
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post Nov 27 2005, 09:23 PM
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post Nov 27 2005, 09:26 PM
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post Nov 27 2005, 09:58 PM
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QUOTE (Mark Henry @ Nov 27 2005, 03:16 PM)
QUOTE (SLITS @ Nov 27 2005, 04:59 PM)
No. Blame Canada

Blame Canada ..........


......Before somebody thinks of blaming us!

Slits...Canada says fuck you!

We still have the best weed

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I was wondering how you made your living up there!
So the VW thing is just a cover? (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/beerchug.gif)
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post Nov 27 2005, 10:05 PM
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post Nov 27 2005, 10:17 PM
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And to Canada, our brethern to the North, I say...we can fly your flag better than you can...... (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif)




PS...Send better weed..the Mexican shit is giving me the runs.
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post Nov 27 2005, 10:20 PM
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SLITS, my crazy neighbor.....

the Mexican stuff makes me cough way too much....and it smells like gear oil too.
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post Nov 27 2005, 10:23 PM
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QUOTE (bd1308 @ Nov 27 2005, 09:20 PM)
SLITS, my crazy neighbor.....

the Mexican stuff makes me cough way too much....and it smells like gear oil too.

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post Nov 27 2005, 10:25 PM
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my .02 . not every one that has a teener needs, can afford, or will want a [not to offend you jake] a over enginiered over refined engine.

for me when the time comes for the rebuild or six or ever eight conversion, i wont be building a daytona 500 capable v8, for a 24hrs le mans six. or a 2270 t4 that will only make 150hp but will out last me and the sheet metal on my teener.

i bought this car for; fun, fuel economy, and some thing that i won't lose value on. a $19K motor defeats most of that.

so jake is the guy to go to if you can't have anything but the best.
the rest of us will have to do what we can to find the best bang or best value that is in our budget.

jake needs to realize he has gone to the far side of what people will spend for an "affordable sports car", and be very frank on that point.

that is my puffed up ego centric opinion and i'm stickin to it.

p.s. for everone who bitches about how over rated or expensive jake is. step up do some research or post who you have found that can rebuild/ build a reliable quality t4 or start doing it your self if you feel you can do it.

jake i ask you to come down from your standard of excelence to offer truely affordable kits.
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post Nov 27 2005, 10:27 PM
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Are we up to page 5 yet?


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post Nov 27 2005, 10:29 PM
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QUOTE (SLITS @ Nov 28 2005, 12:17 AM)

PS...Send better weed..the Mexican shit is giving me the runs.



I'd send the weed bro, but your guberment don't want ya to have the good shit.






Oh-oh....I've turned this into a political thread and now she'll be locked (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/laugh.gif)
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Yes it is true, our gooberment doesn't inhale!
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post Nov 27 2005, 10:51 PM
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is the Canadian Gold legal there?


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post Nov 27 2005, 10:54 PM
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QUOTE (Lou W @ Nov 27 2005, 08:27 PM)
Are we up to page 5 yet?


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i am only on page 2. i changed my settings to read 100 posts per page (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif)

(oops, just started page 3. must be upt o 200 replies. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/wink.gif) )
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post Nov 27 2005, 11:01 PM
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Uhhh... Are you sure about that 200 count, Trojanman?

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