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| Allan |
 Dec 19 2005, 06:28 PM
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Teenerless Weenie  Group: Members Posts: 8,373 Joined: 5-July 04 From: Western Mesopotamia Member No.: 2,304 Region Association: Southern California  |
I am just trying to get a game plan together in the unfortunate event that I end up having to rebuild my engine. I am looking for machine shop references who do decent machine work on the 2.7 mag cased engines. Preferably in or around So Cal....
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| Aaron Cox |
Dec 19 2005, 07:05 PM
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Professional Lawn Dart Group: Retired Admin Posts: 24,541 Joined: 1-February 03 From: OC Member No.: 219 Region Association: Southern California |
motor meister (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/laugh.gif)
(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/poke.gif) serious...now. don traver recomended a place in rainbow CA (i15 on way to SD) slits probably knows a few places down this way |
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| TimT |
Dec 19 2005, 07:08 PM
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retired Group: Members Posts: 4,033 Joined: 18-February 03 From: Wantagh, NY Member No.: 313 |
German Precision, Ted Robinson Owner, Ive dealt with him for years. Straight shooter, reasonable prices..1-800-762-1911
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| TimT |
Dec 19 2005, 07:09 PM
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retired Group: Members Posts: 4,033 Joined: 18-February 03 From: Wantagh, NY Member No.: 313 |
oops just realized he may not be So Cal.. where is Sunnyvale?
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| Aaron Cox |
Dec 19 2005, 07:11 PM
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Professional Lawn Dart Group: Retired Admin Posts: 24,541 Joined: 1-February 03 From: OC Member No.: 219 Region Association: Southern California |
NOR cal (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/wink.gif) |
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| TimT |
Dec 19 2005, 07:18 PM
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retired Group: Members Posts: 4,033 Joined: 18-February 03 From: Wantagh, NY Member No.: 313 |
Heck I ship my stuff to him from NY...
Finally trained a machinist here in NY to do 911 heads...We actually went to the shop and walked the owner through a 911 head overhaul. punching the valve guides, pressing the new ones in, facing the sealing surface.. showing him how much play a valve should have.. oops I digress |
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| mikey |
Dec 19 2005, 07:26 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 423 Joined: 30-January 03 From: San Francisco Member No.: 214 Region Association: None |
Ted's got a great reputation! I recommend him too. People ship him cases from as far away as Australia because he's so good. He did my case and heads.
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| DonTraver |
Dec 19 2005, 07:57 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 829 Joined: 5-August 04 Member No.: 2,461 |
Don Clark
Victory Motorsports 46750 Rainbow Canyon Rd Temecula, Ca 951-695-3902 951-67-1945 fax Don is a Porsche Factory trained Master Tech. He used to own Extreme Motorsports in San Diego. He sold Extreme and opened victory because he got tired of paperwork. Victory is a one man shop, so all the work is done by Don Clark. The shop is right on the border between Temecula and Rainbow about at the I-15 border check point. I just don't go anywhere else, in my book, he's the best. He also races a beautiful 2.+ RSR that he built, hell of a driver too. If you want it done right the first time, call him up. His prices (I know this is important to you, it is too me) are very competitive. Everytime I've had a problem with my 6 or RSA, he has been very helpful on the phone helping me to figure it out, even talked me thru changing the brake pads on the RSA the first time I tried it, if you've never changed pads on a later model caliper, getting the retaining clip off is a real bitch, great way to break a hand, he made it easy. Now once the wheels are off, I can change the pads in all 4 wheels in less than 20 minutes. I just replaced the rotors and pads on the RSA, took me less than 2 hours with his help, I took a lot of breaks too, lol. Give him a call, I know you'll be glad you did, I can't recommend him enough. Good Luck, Don |
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| brant |
Dec 19 2005, 10:38 PM
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914 Wizard Group: Members Posts: 11,623 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Colorado Member No.: 47 Region Association: Rocky Mountains 
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hijack.... Tim, what is the going rate for punching a seat these days. I'm hearing BIG... BIG money and kinda surprised. hijack over... how about Jeff from our very own little non-club. I'm told very good things about Jeff's work brant |
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| TimT |
Dec 19 2005, 10:45 PM
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retired Group: Members Posts: 4,033 Joined: 18-February 03 From: Wantagh, NY Member No.: 313 |
Seats are big.. When a head had the valve seat ground to deeply, like after a few refreshes, we used to just get new heads... at one point they were plentiful.
I dont know how much it would cost to punch out a seat and install a new one.. The last guy I asked to do that was Ted Robinson, and he sold me new (rebuilt) heads for less than the whole valve seat replacement would have cost |
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| brant |
Dec 19 2005, 10:52 PM
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914 Wizard Group: Members Posts: 11,623 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Colorado Member No.: 47 Region Association: Rocky Mountains
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crud... that confirms what I'm hearing. I want to put bigger valves into my motor, and am told that Its cost prohibitive to modify mine..... (need to find 69S heads for less than 2 arms and legs.... you have any leads) brant |
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| ArtechnikA |
Dec 20 2005, 08:51 AM
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rich herzog Group: Members Posts: 7,390 Joined: 4-April 03 From: Salted Roads, PA Member No.: 513 Region Association: None |
Competition Engineering are the guys for mag case prep. Lake Elsinore. not cheap, not quick. just the best. several good guys can do heads - pick one you like. |
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| Cap'n Krusty |
Dec 20 2005, 09:38 AM
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Cap'n Krusty Group: Members Posts: 10,794 Joined: 24-June 04 From: Santa Maria, CA Member No.: 2,246 Region Association: Central California |
That would be Lake Isabella, NOT Lake Elsinore. CE is about an hour from Bakersfield. EMS in Westcdhester, near lAX, would be my other option. CE is hands down my 911 case work choice. Plan on some down time, or buy a nice core 7R case from me! The Cap'n |
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| ArtechnikA |
Dec 20 2005, 10:12 AM
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rich herzog Group: Members Posts: 7,390 Joined: 4-April 03 From: Salted Roads, PA Member No.: 513 Region Association: None |
you are correct! i was even looking at their contact information page when i mis-typed that too... |
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| Allan |
Dec 20 2005, 11:44 AM
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Teenerless Weenie Group: Members Posts: 8,373 Joined: 5-July 04 From: Western Mesopotamia Member No.: 2,304 Region Association: Southern California |
Can the 2.7 P/C's be re-used with new rings if they don't show any serious degradation?
Can the cylinders be honed or do they have some sort of special coating and need to be re-plated? |
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| Aaron Cox |
Dec 20 2005, 11:47 AM
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Professional Lawn Dart Group: Retired Admin Posts: 24,541 Joined: 1-February 03 From: OC Member No.: 219 Region Association: Southern California |
an unkown six is a big can of worms eh allan?
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| Cap'n Krusty |
Dec 20 2005, 11:47 AM
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Cap'n Krusty Group: Members Posts: 10,794 Joined: 24-June 04 From: Santa Maria, CA Member No.: 2,246 Region Association: Central California |
Show them to Walt, the guy at CE. The Cap'n |
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| ArtechnikA |
Dec 20 2005, 11:56 AM
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rich herzog Group: Members Posts: 7,390 Joined: 4-April 03 From: Salted Roads, PA Member No.: 513 Region Association: None |
the Cap'n's answer is correct, of course - "maybe, it depends, you need professional guidance." but since this is the Garage, here's some background. Alusil, probably not. Nikasil, maybe. Nikasil is plated and you might be able to have them lightly honed *once* by an expert. if this has already been done, they can be replated. AFAIK, Alusil cannot be replated with Nikasil although i've never heard that question asked and answered definitively. there are places that offer Nikasil replating service although i'd probably send them to EBS and let them send them to whoever's doing the best job right now. OTOH, with Alusil, you do get 6 really cool paperweights... or you can just order up a set of Nickies and let Charles handle all the hard questions. |
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| goose2 |
Dec 20 2005, 10:41 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 976 Joined: 30-March 05 From: Eugene, Oregon Member No.: 3,847 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
Alusils can be re-ringed successfully...but it's a bit of a crap shoot. There's a thread about 30 pages long about it at Pelican's engine rebuilding forum. Several people have gotten good results with some special treatment. I'll send you the link if it comes to that.
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| TimT |
Dec 20 2005, 10:43 PM
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retired Group: Members Posts: 4,033 Joined: 18-February 03 From: Wantagh, NY Member No.: 313 |
It may be worth it to just get new p&c rather than read through 30 something pages of pelican bickering LOL
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