stand alone ABS, any ideas Options

[J P Stein]

I had pretty much the same experience with my car when it was stock but with 195 X 60 tires. I'm told that now days (then was pre-internet days for me) that can be cured. I cured it my own way. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif)

[Rrrockhound]

QUOTE (Jeroen @ Jan 27 2006, 08:28 PM)

QUOTE (Rrrockhound @ Jan 27 2006, 11:31 PM) QUOTE (Jeroen @ Jan 27 2006, 01:05 PM) a trained right foot don't need not abs (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/wink.gif) Can a trained right foot pump one caliper at 10 times per second while applying steady pressure to the others? I've driven cars with ABS and it's highly overrated Gives the driver a false sense of safety... I don't need it, thank you very much

Well, as someone who grew up and learned to drive in the snowbelt of Cleveland, I swear by ABS, because there's nothing like the feeling of stepping on the brakes in a snow squall and realizing that you're not...going...to...stop...in...time... (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/sad.gif)

Forget the macho BS. Most driving isn't on the track...

[TimT]

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it actually makes the situation worse in some conditions..

Snow and Ice is one situation where ABS may be questionable. I havent found ABS to be superior to the brakes on my past vehicles on these surfaces... and to answer the next question, I spend alot of time in Vermont in the winter

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Forget the macho BS. Most driving isn't on the track...

Track or not.. Drivers should know basic car control skills, ABS sensors do fail, the wires do get damaged...

Id rather for me and my passengers safety that I have a skill set that may not rely on electronics for their safety

[J P Stein]

I have ABS on Mr 2. I can't recall ever having induced it's operation in 6-8 years of street driving (or it is seamless). I prefer to think this is another skill set.

[Porcharu]

QUOTE (TimT @ Jan 27 2006, 06:47 PM)

ABS is a double edged sword.. I used to race with a guy that had an E30 (I think) M3.. Once the ABS sensor on one of his wheels failed. He promptly flat spotted his tires.. He had no idea how to modulate "regular " brakes. He came into the pits slammed his helmet down in a very melodramatic fashion and had a tantrum..Bill and I though it quite funny.. I always thought it pretty sad that some race drivers, just stand on the brakes and let the ABS modulate and slow the car..because cables and sensors do fail.. One should have the skills to deal with that. Proper braking technique takes some seat time.

My first couple track events were spent chasing or leading a guy with a first generation Acura integra type R. The thing was really pretty fast especially under braking (I could never get enought front brake to really balance the car on my rabbit.) On fine day he parked his nice shiny car into the pit wall at Buttonwillow - ABS failure. Turns out all he was doing was standing on brakes and letting the ABS do it's thing - all the time on the track. When it failed he locked up the rear brakes and rotated right into the pit wall at about 60mph.

A little off topic but worthwhile - I want a wheel lockup indicator. A simple deal with 4 leds that shows when a wheel is locked up or turning way to slow.

[racerx7]

I was not there. Don't know the guy etc...

What I do know if the ABS system fails the light is suppose to
go on. If any part of the ABS system fails the car just use
the system like a normal car with out ABS. Maybe since it
sound like you where talking about a race, maybe they
removed the dash and replaced with aftermarket gauages.

[dimitri]

I have removed a stand alone ABS unit from a Bmw, unfortunately I dont
remember the exact year or model, but believe it was a 1988 528I sedan.
Seperate harness straight to its own computer, four sensors and easily
removed harness. Power directly from battery, 2 wires to dash, abs light
and ignition. Something to play with later. Regardless how good you think
you are in manipulating (pedupilating?) the brakes, a good ABS is hard
to beat in an emergency. Dimitri

[Andyrew]

I must say... I am impressed by ABS....

The mom mobile has abs (01 galant v6) and it throws me (and anyone else in the car (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif) ) forward.. Those brakes ROCK

My car... Doesnt come close to that! I have A calipers with pagrid racing pads and other junk...

Heck the 944's stop on a dime! (especially with sticky tires... 30-0 ~1 car length.. UNGH (sound i make))


I'll be all over abs like flies on my g/fs cooking.