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/4 engine rebuild, what do people usually do? |
bd1308 |
Feb 6 2006, 07:58 AM
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Sir Post-a-lot Group: Members Posts: 8,020 Joined: 24-January 05 From: Louisville,KY Member No.: 3,501 |
i've been tossing the idea around of doing a engine rebuild next year and wanted to ask you guys which engine people usually use.
I have a stock 1.7L with L-jet, but I think a nice 2056 or a tad bigger would be good... what do ya'll think? Sincerely, Sir-Post-Alot |
bd1308 |
Feb 6 2006, 08:00 AM
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Sir Post-a-lot Group: Members Posts: 8,020 Joined: 24-January 05 From: Louisville,KY Member No.: 3,501 |
that is unless somebody has any idea to pep up my 1.7L
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Jake Raby |
Feb 6 2006, 08:00 AM
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Engine Surgeon Group: Members Posts: 9,394 Joined: 31-August 03 From: Lost Member No.: 1,095 Region Association: South East States |
Its ALL dependant upon what you have to spend!
How much ya got?? remember that the 1.7 is just as easy to make MassIVe as any other engine- my 3 Liter is based on a 1.7 case! |
bd1308 |
Feb 6 2006, 08:04 AM
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Sir Post-a-lot Group: Members Posts: 8,020 Joined: 24-January 05 From: Louisville,KY Member No.: 3,501 |
all of the /4 cases are the same arent they?
I ahve zilch now, but i plan to have a moderate amount by next year. not 2056 crate engine money, but cylinder head money and what-not. someday i'll get a raby engine, that is when I build my megasquirt. b |
bd1308 |
Feb 6 2006, 08:12 AM
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Sir Post-a-lot Group: Members Posts: 8,020 Joined: 24-January 05 From: Louisville,KY Member No.: 3,501 |
so jake, lemme ask you something then.
for just "cruising" and long-distance driving, is it worth going to like a 2.x size? I mean I would like my car to run reliably, but like you always say "it's all in the combo" not asking for detailed info, just wondering if you have a small displacement good running engine idea in the form of a kit that could be purchased.... b |
Joe Ricard |
Feb 6 2006, 09:23 AM
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CUMONIWANNARACEU Group: Members Posts: 6,811 Joined: 5-January 03 From: Gautier, MS Member No.: 92 |
Britt, ain't nuthin wrong wit yo 1.7L for kruzin. 32 MPG is really cool.
Didn't know 1.7 came with L-jet. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/confused24.gif) Looks like I sold my Early "W" case 1.7L to fund my 2056 screamer. |
Bleyseng |
Feb 6 2006, 09:27 AM
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Aircooled Baby! Group: Members Posts: 13,034 Joined: 27-December 02 From: Seattle, Washington (for now) Member No.: 24 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
The costs to rebuild a 1.7l properly is almost the same as a 2056. The biggest cost is the 3 bolt heads although you could use a set of Jake's special heads instead.
Depends on how much hp you have to have as a 1.7 can be built to run better than stock & with more HP. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/popcorn[1].gif) |
Mark Henry |
Feb 6 2006, 09:30 AM
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that's what I do! Group: Members Posts: 20,065 Joined: 27-December 02 From: Port Hope, Ontario Member No.: 26 Region Association: Canada |
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bd1308 |
Feb 6 2006, 11:46 AM
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Sir Post-a-lot Group: Members Posts: 8,020 Joined: 24-January 05 From: Louisville,KY Member No.: 3,501 |
it didnt. I put L-jet on it because I was done with fooling with carbs. You sold your heads too? b |
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Jake Raby |
Feb 6 2006, 01:12 PM
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Engine Surgeon Group: Members Posts: 9,394 Joined: 31-August 03 From: Lost Member No.: 1,095 Region Association: South East States |
Sounds like you need a 2056 or 2270 engine kit.... Its the cheapest way to do it yourself, get a correct combo and get support to boot!
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jetboy |
Feb 6 2006, 02:49 PM
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914 Uber Noob Group: Members Posts: 205 Joined: 16-September 05 From: Riverside, CA Member No.: 4,810 Region Association: Southern California |
Hope this isnt hijacking, but, im also curious about the options for 1.7 build up. Is there any machining required to put in larger pistons/cylinders? Or is the 1.7 stuck with the stock size 90mm bores?
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Joe Ricard |
Feb 6 2006, 03:25 PM
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CUMONIWANNARACEU Group: Members Posts: 6,811 Joined: 5-January 03 From: Gautier, MS Member No.: 92 |
Yea Britt I sold it as a super long block. which is Flywheel, oil cooler and probably some tin maybe a fan housing if I can talk him into taking it too.
Got another set of 1.7L heads probably serviceable haven't checked them out yet. Jet Boy the case does not need to be modified but the 1.7L heads do need to be cut for bigger cylinders. |
Trekkor |
Feb 6 2006, 03:29 PM
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I do things... Group: Members Posts: 7,809 Joined: 2-December 03 From: Napa, Ca Member No.: 1,413 Region Association: Northern California |
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Joe Ricard |
Feb 6 2006, 03:31 PM
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CUMONIWANNARACEU Group: Members Posts: 6,811 Joined: 5-January 03 From: Gautier, MS Member No.: 92 |
Trekkor you crack me up.
Maybe if I give Britt the parts AND drive them up to KY. |
Jake Raby |
Feb 6 2006, 04:03 PM
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Engine Surgeon Group: Members Posts: 9,394 Joined: 31-August 03 From: Lost Member No.: 1,095 Region Association: South East States |
The 1.7 case is no smaller than the 2.0! To upgrade the 1.7 all you need are components from a 2.0 to drop right in, no machining required.
my 3 liter is based on a 1.7 case! I did it to prove the point that the 1.7 case is fine to modify. |
tat2dphreak |
Feb 6 2006, 04:43 PM
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stoya, stoya, stoya Group: Benefactors Posts: 8,797 Joined: 6-June 03 From: Wylie, TX Member No.: 792 Region Association: Southwest Region |
Britt, also think of the 1911 size, that will keep you from buying a 71mm crank, just standard 1.7/1.8 crank, 96mm pistons, 1.8 or 2.0 cylinders machined to 96mm , and the headwork...
just wanted to throw out another option... the 1.8 bus motor I have in the corner will probably get the 1911 treatment when I get around to it... |
Aaron Cox |
Feb 6 2006, 05:14 PM
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Professional Lawn Dart Group: Retired Admin Posts: 24,541 Joined: 1-February 03 From: OC Member No.: 219 Region Association: Southern California |
britt...
to go 2056 you need a 2l crank = money to go 2270 you need a stroker crank, = more money.... do a 1911... its a 96mm bore with your 1.7/1.8 crank. |
Mueller |
Feb 6 2006, 05:21 PM
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914 Freak! Group: Members Posts: 17,146 Joined: 4-January 03 From: Antioch, CA Member No.: 87 Region Association: None |
i'd vote for the 1911 if money is an issue*, once you get $20K in student loans, then go the monster Raby motor (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/smile.gif) *even if money is not an issue, it's a good fun engine, heck, just even a stock rebuild will be more enjoyable that what you are currently driving.....just make sure you get a good cam from Jake...the megasquirt can handle anything you throw at it...you'll love your new motor... |
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lapuwali |
Feb 6 2006, 05:29 PM
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Not another one! Group: Benefactors Posts: 4,526 Joined: 1-March 04 From: San Mateo, CA Member No.: 1,743 |
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Mueller |
Feb 6 2006, 05:31 PM
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914 Freak! Group: Members Posts: 17,146 Joined: 4-January 03 From: Antioch, CA Member No.: 87 Region Association: None |
it's getting more and more tempting for me, especially since I no longer have a real time frame to get my car up and running (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/wacko.gif) I'm waiting for Fiid to decide to go with a Subaru transmission so that I can buy his adapter stuff from him (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/welder.gif) |
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