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r_towle
post Mar 10 2006, 08:58 PM
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Please post some good pics of the door bracing bars that you guys have made...

It is finally warm enough, and I need to go out tommorow and build these bars.

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post Mar 10 2006, 09:01 PM
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not teener but you get the idea




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post Mar 10 2006, 09:33 PM
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you mean for restoration, or like a cage?
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post Mar 10 2006, 09:38 PM
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the temporary door bracing that is used while fixing the longitudinal...

I would like to see a few good detailed shots, prefer to see the connections as well...how is it connected and adjusted...

Thanx in advance.

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post Mar 10 2006, 09:46 PM
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uhhh.. dont really have a good shot of the whole thing.... but pretty much just some steel bars, large turnbuckles that you can get at a farm supply place, and a door hinge.... Weld you turnbuckle to one end of the bar.... you need to drill a hole to mount the other end of the bar into the seatbelt mount. I assume for this restoration you have your rear window out?? if not, you need to cut the bar to size... if you do, it can just stick out the rear... bolt your door hinge to the door jamb. There is an angle that you have to make, so I welded the other end of the turnbuckle to the door hinge while it was in place... sorry for the kind of confusing directions... oh yea, later i welded angle iron to it, because just the straight bar would bend when i tryed to adjust it. When you have everything installed, you just turn the turnbuckle to adjust the width.... heres a pic of the turnbuckle...


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post Mar 10 2006, 09:50 PM
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the temporary door bracing that is used while fixing the longitudinal.


heheh oops

well the NASCAR bars I welded in the 911 would support the longs I suppose...

I misunderstood the original post
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post Mar 10 2006, 09:50 PM
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another shot...kinda...you can see how the staight bar was bending, and not working correctly.... angle iron fixed that.


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post Mar 10 2006, 10:34 PM
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really looking for the ones that dont bend....

Prefer to see a few different types guys...come on...I know you guys have them out there....

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post Mar 10 2006, 11:00 PM
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I think there are some good shots in michelko's restoration thread.

hopefully that helps
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post Mar 10 2006, 11:15 PM
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Well I found this one from Racer Chris.


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post Mar 11 2006, 01:40 AM
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QUOTE (grasshopper @ Mar 10 2006, 07:50 PM)
another shot...kinda...you can see how the staight bar was bending, and not working correctly.... angle iron fixed that.

Sorry to hijack, but..
you shoulddn´t do that with the wheels on ground. Put the tub on jackstands (using the donuts). No bending of the brace cause its pulled not pushed. This also takes the stress out of the longs while yoo are grinding and welding.



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post Mar 11 2006, 01:42 AM
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as you can see, no bending!

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post Mar 11 2006, 07:04 AM
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Ok, so when you're doing something like this, how do you know you're chassis's square before you start welding in replacement pieces?

You've got the turnbucles on there so you could adjust it, but what do you measure from & to? And what's the "magic" number to be square?

(factory square is what I'm talking about. Obviously you want both sides even, but when you set it down youdon't want a welded in U shaped chassis. Or a ^, ...lol or a ~ for that matter) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/huh.gif)
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post Mar 11 2006, 07:11 AM
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QUOTE (michelko @ Mar 10 2006, 11:40 PM)
QUOTE (grasshopper @ Mar 10 2006, 07:50 PM)
another shot...kinda...you can see how the staight bar was bending, and not working correctly.... angle iron fixed that.

Sorry to hijack, but..
you shoulddn´t do that with the wheels on ground. Put the tub on jackstands (using the donuts). No bending of the brace cause its pulled not pushed. This also takes the stress out of the longs while yoo are grinding and welding.

cool, thanks for the heads up! I am glad you told me that before i started working on the longs... I was going to start this weekend, but i am going away....soooo I'll get it up on jackstands (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/smilie_pokal.gif) Thanks!
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post Mar 11 2006, 07:13 AM
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grasshopper,

ahem...

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post Mar 11 2006, 07:14 AM
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QUOTE (bd1308 @ Mar 11 2006, 05:13 AM)
grasshopper,

ahem...

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post Mar 11 2006, 07:16 AM
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QUOTE (grasshopper @ Mar 11 2006, 07:14 AM)
QUOTE (bd1308 @ Mar 11 2006, 05:13 AM)
grasshopper,

ahem...

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hey...im a grasshopper (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/wink.gif)

sigh....


not much for subliminal messaging are we?

are you still coming to KY?

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post Mar 11 2006, 07:26 AM
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check my blog, there's several pics of mine in there...
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post Mar 11 2006, 01:00 PM
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QUOTE (Jeroen @ Mar 11 2006, 08:26 AM)
check my blog, there's several pics of mine in there...

In every picture all I can see is that you have a solid bar in there...

I cannot see the front connection. Is there some adjustability to those, or did you just use jacks to get the car right and then measure and cut the tubing??

I am looking to get the car on stands, and then straighten it up using these bars...

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post Mar 11 2006, 06:57 PM
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my bars are non adjustable
I measured the car best I could (check the 914 info link at the top of the page) and it was good to go
I used old catch plates on the rear fender and fabbed a 3mm piece to bolt to where the top door hinge normally sits
Then made the bars (1" square tubing) to fit and welded them in
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