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messix	Mar 28 2006, 12:24 AM Post #1
AKA "CLUTCH KILLER"! Group: Members Posts: 6,995 Joined: 14-April 05 From: between shit kickers and pinky lifters/ puget sound wa.north of Seattle south of Canada Member No.: 3,931 Region Association: Pacific Northwest	local guy here i'm sure some of you have seen his stuff Attached image(s)

DanT	Mar 28 2006, 12:28 AM Post #2
Going back to the Dark Side! Group: Members Posts: 4,300 Joined: 4-October 04 From: Auburn, CA Member No.: 2,880 Region Association: None	very patriotic (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif)

Rand	Mar 28 2006, 12:48 AM Post #3
Cross Member Group: Members Posts: 7,409 Joined: 8-February 05 From: OR Member No.: 3,573 Region Association: None	Hey, I just saw that thing at the Seattle car show. And snapped a pic... Attached image(s)

messix	Mar 28 2006, 01:01 AM Post #4
AKA "CLUTCH KILLER"! Group: Members Posts: 6,995 Joined: 14-April 05 From: between shit kickers and pinky lifters/ puget sound wa.north of Seattle south of Canada Member No.: 3,931 Region Association: Pacific Northwest	rand the other one he had was his original v8 car now has a big centrifical blower on it now and a hood with out a big hole in it . can you say sleeper? 'cept the paint.

Rand	Mar 28 2006, 01:05 AM Post #5
Cross Member Group: Members Posts: 7,409 Joined: 8-February 05 From: OR Member No.: 3,573 Region Association: None	Sweet. I would repaint it and go all sleeper on that one. Man, I'd love a ride in those things.

messix	Mar 28 2006, 01:07 AM Post #6
AKA "CLUTCH KILLER"! Group: Members Posts: 6,995 Joined: 14-April 05 From: between shit kickers and pinky lifters/ puget sound wa.north of Seattle south of Canada Member No.: 3,931 Region Association: Pacific Northwest	that guy has shown his cars at the colby cruise every year that i can remember. i talked with him several times , nice guy.

Jake Raby	Mar 28 2006, 08:13 AM Post #7
Engine Surgeon Group: Members Posts: 9,394 Joined: 31-August 03 From: Lost Member No.: 1,095 Region Association: South East States	Sure.. Thats easy to beat.. He removed the biggest advantage the car had for traction by relocating the engine to the front.. I now VW powered beasts that will set his ass on fire... Good work he did for sure, I just don't get the point... All that extra weight over the non drive wheels????

Root_Werks	Mar 28 2006, 08:52 AM Post #8
Village Idiot Group: Members Posts: 8,319 Joined: 25-May 04 From: About 5NM from Canada Member No.: 2,105 Region Association: Pacific Northwest	I scanned through a HOT VW's or VW Trends or whatever the other day and noted an article about a 1914cc 300hp turbo engine build. Sheese! I can remember being happy to squeak 85hp from a 1600dp! (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif) Times have changed and the bar is pretty high these days. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/smile.gif)

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Mar 28 2006, 09:10 AM

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QUOTE (Root_Werks @ Mar 28 2006, 06:52 AM)

I scanned through a HOT VW's or VW Trends or whatever the other day and noted an article about a 1914cc 300hp turbo engine build. Sheese! I can remember being happy to squeak 85hp from a 1600dp! (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif) Times have changed and the bar is pretty high these days. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/smile.gif)

I'll bet that 85hp was good for 40-60K miles..... not the 25seconds for the turbo.....

sportlicherFahrer	Mar 28 2006, 01:46 PM Post #10
Nothing to see here. Group: Members Posts: 1,078 Joined: 18-April 05 From: Tacoma, WA Member No.: 3,945 Region Association: Pacific Northwest	I have seen that car run at Pacific International. On a hot day during the summer, that thing only pulled a mid to low 12! On the same day there were 10 second bugs! It is still a cool sight to see, and it is VERY loud. Nothing like a stinger though!

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Mar 28 2006, 01:54 PM

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QUOTE (Root_Werks @ Mar 28 2006, 06:52 AM)

I scanned through a HOT VW's or VW Trends or whatever the other day and noted an article about a 1914cc 300hp turbo engine build. Sheese! I can remember being happy to squeak 85hp from a 1600dp! (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif) Times have changed and the bar is pretty high these days. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/smile.gif)

I've seen beetles with similar powerplants doing 7s and 8s at the Bug-In at Bandimere Speedway here in Denver.

I was blown away when I saw the times. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/cool.gif)

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Mar 28 2006, 03:37 PM

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QUOTE (Root_Werks @ Mar 28 2006, 06:52 AM)

I scanned through a HOT VW's or VW Trends or whatever the other day and noted an article about a 1914cc 300hp turbo engine build. Sheese! I can remember being happy to squeak 85hp from a 1600dp! (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif) Times have changed and the bar is pretty high these days. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/smile.gif)

Whenever turbo horsepower numbers come up I always think of the Formula 1 turbo years. BMW was getting 1200 hp from their 1.5 liter four cylinder qualifying engine. What a grenade! (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/laugh.gif)

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Mar 28 2006, 03:47 PM

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QUOTE (maf914 @ Mar 28 2006, 01:37 PM)

QUOTE (Root_Werks @ Mar 28 2006, 06:52 AM)

I scanned through a HOT VW's or VW Trends or whatever the other day and noted an article about a 1914cc 300hp turbo engine build. Sheese! I can remember being happy to squeak 85hp from a 1600dp! :D Times have changed and the bar is pretty high these days. :)

Whenever turbo horsepower numbers come up I always think of the Formula 1 turbo years. BMW was getting 1200 hp from their 1.5 liter four cylinder qualifying engine. What a grenade! (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/laugh.gif)

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QUOTE (Jake Raby @ Mar 28 2006, 06:13 AM)

Sure.. Thats easy to beat.. He removed the biggest advantage the car had for traction by relocating the engine to the front..

I now VW powered beasts that will set his ass on fire...

Good work he did for sure, I just don't get the point... All that extra weight over the non drive wheels????

Should have put it in the back seat. Drove a bug with an aluminum Buick V-8 like that one time, yikes.

I have always thought that a super beetle with the ring and pinion flipped so you could put the motor in the back seat would be outstanding. Put you close to a 50-50 split on the weight, and would freak people a little when you pop the bonnet. I imagine it would cure your super shimmies too.

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Mar 28 2006, 08:04 PM

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QUOTE (Jake Raby @ Mar 28 2006, 06:13 AM)

Sure.. Thats easy to beat.. He removed the biggest advantage the car had for traction by relocating the engine to the front..

I now VW powered beasts that will set his ass on fire...

Good work he did for sure, I just don't get the point... All that extra weight over the non drive wheels????

That sure sounds like a reason to place a heavier /6 or V8 into the teener to get more power and weight over the drive wheels... (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/hide.gif)

Twystd1	Mar 28 2006, 08:09 PM Post #16
You don't want to know... really..... Group: Members Posts: 2,514 Joined: 12-September 04 From: Newport Beach, California Member No.: 2,743	That ain't nuthin.. My moms 1.7 FI factory 914 with dual pipes and A/C can kick that guys ass. Cause Alpha tuned it..!!!!! Twystd1

messix	Mar 28 2006, 08:37 PM Post #17
AKA "CLUTCH KILLER"! Group: Members Posts: 6,995 Joined: 14-April 05 From: between shit kickers and pinky lifters/ puget sound wa.north of Seattle south of Canada Member No.: 3,931 Region Association: Pacific Northwest	chassis tuning for quarter mile cars is very different than any other motor sport. it is possible to have better traction with the engine in front when the chassis setup allows for weight transfer on accelaration. the effect of weight transfer on a rear engine car unloads the front suspension to easely. thats prolly why in top fuel there hasn't been any rear engine cars [engine behind the drive wheels.] top fuel is limited on chassis length to limit the bite and traction these cars can get.

Rider914	Mar 29 2006, 07:56 PM Post #18
Member Group: Members Posts: 276 Joined: 13-April 04 From: Palm Beach Member No.: 1,923	If the rears could get enough bite, he could get the engine behind the rear tires - Upside-down. . .

Jake Raby	Mar 29 2006, 08:37 PM Post #19
Engine Surgeon Group: Members Posts: 9,394 Joined: 31-August 03 From: Lost Member No.: 1,095 Region Association: South East States	Nope.... Whats his best time.

messix	Mar 29 2006, 10:55 PM Post #20
AKA "CLUTCH KILLER"! Group: Members Posts: 6,995 Joined: 14-April 05 From: between shit kickers and pinky lifters/ puget sound wa.north of Seattle south of Canada Member No.: 3,931 Region Association: Pacific Northwest	i don't know about the new tube frame car, but he was turning mid elevens with the old car. very traction limited thats the reason for the tube car.

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