Project MBT-8 914 (warning - big pics for dial-up), new build thread for my V8 tube car Options

[byndbad914]

I already looked at the C4 stuff and it won't work at all. There is no way to compensate for axle travel. They use a drive shaft.

yeah, I knew there was no way I would want to use C4 stuff. teh C5 and on has the rear transaxle, dual CV stuff so it looks alot like a 914 back there with the bonus of dual As

Now I have already pulled the wheels off my dad's bradn new ZO6 to measure and analyze the C6 stuff.

Your dad has a new Z06? Nice! That is my new favorite car. I never thought I would like a GM product enough to buy it, but I would have one of those if I didn't need the pickup for towing.

[byndbad914]

Here are some update shots I took over the weekend. As of last night, the car was on the ground and I am picking it up this afternoon!! Will have "final shots" of the chassis build probably tomorrow. In the meantime....

Bummed, but ended up running the cooling lines inside. Will have to ceramic coat them down the road to reduce the temps. I will also move the water pump to the passenger side too and get rid of the cross-over. For now, this is the band-aid for lack of planning (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)


The front area with the fuel pump, filter, fill tank and overflow all mounted. Notice the center mounted battery too.


water pump (Meziere WP337 for those that will ask (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) ) and monster HP6 oil filter.

[byndbad914]

rear shot with the coolers all mounted (one for oil, one for trans)


the rear "upright" finalized.


the trans pump mounted

[byndbad914]

and for the shift linkage - I thought having a nice bearing in there would be bitchin, but turns out the bearing has a lot of play so it makes shifting feel a little sloppy. I will either machine a whole new bracket, or just press-in a plug, drill a 5/16" hole exact, and use a stud for the pivot to remove that play... but notice the adjustable slot for ratio and so forth.


and the cross cable setup for the side to side selection. Again, adjustable by shimming the heim up or down.

[TravisNeff]

This is a wicked transformation, can't wait to see it on the ground!

[Aaron Cox]

more progress! nicely done man

[turbo914v8]

Beauty to my eyes. I am drunk with envy.

[So.Cal.914]

Eyegasm's! I have been following your build and I have seen some very cleaver

answers to some difficult questions. It's going to be EVIL, WICKED, MEAN &

NASTY, I like it. With all that steel under even extreme conditions you should be

safe. Nice job.

[Brett W]

Yeah my old man picked it up in Feb and it only has 1300 or 1800 miles. I think it has probably seen redline once maybe.

Car looks good. Time for some paint.

[byndbad914]

thanks to all for the kind words and votes of confidence! Here are some final shots. As for paint, paint don' help it go faster, so unnecessary (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Actually, I want to get it running, sort it out a bit, then believe it or not, tear it completely back down again.

Future plans over the next 6mo-1yr:
Get running
Race around Willow and sort the suspension, make sure everything is all where I want it, fix/weld whatever and get a "final" version sorted.
Tear down to ground again
Acid dip what is left
Send to heat treat (this will remove the stresses in the welds - very important on chromoly - and burn out the remaining acid)
Powdercoat the chassis
Paint the car
Maiden voyage - chip the shit outta the paint/powdercoat on the road course (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

Left these images a little big for clarity... here we go:

took this shot to show there will be no shortage of camber adjustment in the rear (car just "slapped" together here, no susp alignment at all). Then noticed a cool effect - look how low the car is v. the truck in the rear. That truck is lifted a fair amount, but gives you all a relative idea.


A rear shot - I am standing next to the red truck (I am 5'9"), so you see where the rear fender is in relation to me, and notice I am shooting DOWN at the car (IMG:style_emoticons/default/aktion035.gif) The car will actually be another 1" to 1-1/2" lower too - I left a little high to get it on the trailer...


Rear bumper will go on (at home at the time of these pix) and I will have to chop the rear valence for the exhaust, but will have a complete rear down the road.

Notice I chopped the spills way down - this is very form over function! The bigger spills woulda been better, but looked like (IMG:style_emoticons/default/bootyshake.gif) IMO and I hated the wing on the car. Chopped them way down and it really cleaned the look up. So, proof I care more about looks than hitting 160mph I guess. All the true racers are thinking (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sheeplove.gif) right about now (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

[byndbad914]

couple more shots before it went on the trailer to come home last night

[RS22b]

wow! congrats on all the hard work and reward.

[byndbad914]

apparently I am not too far off of cramming C5 stuff in a little car - a fellow member sent me this link, thought I would share with all. Shows stock stuff on the front and simple custom tubes on the rear as I suggested... whooda thunk I am not the only crazy bastard out there (IMG:style_emoticons/default/drunk.gif) I don't like that he used square tube to build the front (torsional stability sucks) and shoulda used round tube like the rest of the car IMO, but he has the right idea overall!

http://www.germanlook.com/Forums/showthrea...6197&page=6

scroll down for his pix.

[turbo914v8]

Well let me be the first to thank you for taking us all along on this very cool journey. Best of luck with the rest of the build and don’t forget we would be glad to look at any pictures of your progress, no matter how small. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

[grantsfo]

How much does this weigh?

[byndbad914]

How much does this weigh?

We got it on the ground for the first time Monday night - AT 11:00PM! (shows AJs willingness to work with me, right!) - and when I got down there Tuesday afternoon to pick it up, we were all excited and BSing and so forth... guess who forgot to weigh it before he put it on the trailer!

So I am working on borrowing AJs scales. He might race this weekend and if so, I won't be able to get them until later. If not, I will probably be down there on Sat and borrow them to take home. I will post what I find out when I get the info. I am expecting/bracing myself that it will be heavy by 914 standards (but still light by other car standards of course).

PS - thanks Paul!

[MJHanna]

I bet you can't wait to fire it up for the first time and cruise around the block.
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[Dr. Roger]

"oh shit! . honey call the kids inside!" LOL

[byndbad914]

"oh shit! . honey call the kids inside!" LOL

Funny you say that - the first iteration of this car was fired up in my garage for the first time last October on a nice, sunny SoCal afternoon. Across the street and just a few houses down is a park with a kiddie pool. It was noisy and kids were screaching and laughing, so forth. I fired it up, ran it a couple of minutes and shut it off.

The park was dead silent! A couple of car alarms were going off in the street, but the park was silent (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) I walked out to the sidewalk to look down at the park and a block away a lady came out of her house and started looking around (IMG:style_emoticons/default/aktion035.gif) I live right near LAX - probably thought a plane crashed over her house. A neighbor over 2 blocks away came walking up a few minutes later and said he was wandering around looking for what made all the racket and checked the car out for a while.

I ordered mufflers for the sprint headers shortly thereafter (IMG:style_emoticons/default/clap56.gif) I miss that sound soooo much right now it is killing me.

[byndbad914]

borrowed AJ's scales over the weekend and here is what I have so far... the car without any fluids, but everything I could find in the garage to throw on top of it was 2500lbs. I said I would be happy with 2600lbs, and I need to stick to it. Once I add oil, coolant and 1/2 tank of fuel, she will vault the 2600lb mark for sure, but that is okay.




Corner weights aren't real as the car ride height wasn't set, crap laying in and on the car where ever it would rest and so forth - I just wanted the overall number.

For the future I am going to get fiberglass lids front and rear anyway, copy Felix's HID-style headlight setup that mounts in the turn signal buckets to save weight, and I have the original 72 doors off the car that I will gut completely for the track. I can trim away 200lbs I think with time and effort.

Took me the whole rest of the afternoon messing with it to get the ride height set level and correct to the suspension geometry - here is a final "level" look. Down the road cross-weighting will affect it of course, but level and low is this (excuse the blurry image, the batteries had been flashing "dead" the whole weekend and this was the last shot I got out of 'em)