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> What happened to the 914 that won Lemans?
Hawktel
post Apr 27 2006, 09:20 PM
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post Apr 27 2006, 09:23 PM
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Mike Hagen did some good trading for it , see more info here
http://www.pbase.com/9146gt/sonauto_40_por...4_hours_le_mans
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post Apr 27 2006, 09:36 PM
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Won its class, not the race, it was overshadowed by a much bigger fish with 6 extra jugs, and way more HP.

Yes Hagen ownes it, lucky man. Thou when you think of the feat for the 914 to win its class, it kinda makes the the 917 look a little bad. But you will never here a Porsche owner of any other type tell you that.
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post Apr 27 2006, 09:38 PM
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I thought Brad had it..... For a while........

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post Apr 28 2006, 12:58 AM
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But didn't it win 6th over all? Out of all the cars on that track, I believe it

took 6th. That is fuching amazing. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smoke.gif)
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post Apr 28 2006, 08:33 AM
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But didn't it win 6th over all? Out of all the cars on that track, I believe it

took 6th. That is fuching amazing. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smoke.gif)


Out of the 50 or so cars that started only 7 finished. "It was a rainy Le Mans that year" So 6th place is the next to last place finish... The important statistic was the fact the little 914 was only 61 laps down on the Panzer. and on the same lap as the 911 that came in 7th.

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post Apr 28 2006, 08:35 AM
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"Placed" sixth....sixth wins nothing except a place in History....in this case it "survived"....
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post Apr 28 2006, 08:58 AM
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It 'won' the GT class.

Take a look at the GT cars of today. We all know Kevin and The Racers Group right (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) Why? Mainly because he won the GT class at Le Mans.

If you were the driver and you won your class, I will 'guarantee' you that you'd be telling your friends and family for the rest of your life how you 'won' Le Mans.

A class win is a win. That's why the have 'classes'. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
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post Apr 28 2006, 09:43 AM
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"Placed" sixth....sixth wins nothing except a place in History....in this case it "survived"....


I had always thought 24 hour endurance races were about "survival"? Perhaps outstanding nueteral handling had something to do with it avoiding accidents and its bullet proof engine allowed it to finnish.

I know I'm baised, but I still think that this was the 914's greatest racing accomplishment. Its sixth place overall and 1st in class wins a place in my heart as long as I drive a 914-6. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smilie_pokal.gif)
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post Apr 28 2006, 09:44 AM
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but even if it was the next place to the last - about 43 cars (or so) didn't manage to finish the race (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)
so I'd say that's not so bad (IMG:style_emoticons/default/clap56.gif)

it shows that our beloved teener is (at least it was (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) ) a reliable racecar
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post Apr 28 2006, 09:44 AM
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Its sitting over at Hergesheimers in Lake Forest with a stuck rear caliper.
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post Apr 28 2006, 09:49 AM
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I'm not belittling the accompishment. Just making a comment on survival versus winning.

24 hour races are just that.....You can win by getting out front by beating the crap out of the car and then coasting hoping that everyone else breaks or lurking in the rear waiting for the front runners to break.

Good brakes, good suspension, solid drive train will always win out in the end....if the end is far enuff away....

Winning the class sounds good.....being sixth of seven that finished not as good.....but both descriptions are accurate.
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post Apr 28 2006, 09:49 AM
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QUOTE(grantsfo @ Apr 28 2006, 05:43 PM) *

I know I'm baised, but I still think that this was the 914's greatest racing accomplishment. Its sixth place overall and 1st in class wins a place in my heart as long as I drive a 914-6. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smilie_pokal.gif)



well, in my opinion the 1-2-3 at the Marathon de la Route 1970 was the absolute highlight in the racing careere of the teeners
I mean, it was a 86 hrs race at the most difficult track in the world (Nurburgring)
that's 3.5 times LeMans ...

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post Apr 28 2006, 09:57 AM
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QUOTE(Gustl @ Apr 28 2006, 08:49 AM) *

QUOTE(grantsfo @ Apr 28 2006, 05:43 PM) *

I know I'm baised, but I still think that this was the 914's greatest racing accomplishment. Its sixth place overall and 1st in class wins a place in my heart as long as I drive a 914-6. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smilie_pokal.gif)



well, in my opinion the 1-2-3 at the Marathon de la Route 1970 was the absolute highlight in the racing careere of the teeners
I mean, it was a 86 hrs race at the most difficult track in the world (Nurburgring)
that's 3.5 times LeMans ...


Never heard of it. Any on line sites that give history of this race?
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post Apr 28 2006, 10:11 AM
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Never heard of it. Any on line sites that give history of this race?


(IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) are you kidding ??????

1.) watch Glenn Stazak's pages

2. watch the overall results

3. see the victory celebration poster:



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post Apr 28 2006, 10:22 AM
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here are the 3 cars

914.0.43.2541 - Lic: S - W 1947 - bumper black / yellow
914.0.43.2542 - Lic: S - W 1948 - bumper black / red
914.0.43.2543 - Lic: S - W 1949 - bumper black / green



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post Apr 28 2006, 10:23 AM
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QUOTE(Gustl @ Apr 28 2006, 09:11 AM) *

QUOTE(grantsfo @ Apr 28 2006, 05:57 PM) *

Never heard of it. Any on line sites that give history of this race?


(IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) are you kidding ??????

1.) watch Glenn Stazak's pages

2. watch the overall results

3. see the victory celebration poster:


Nope. Never heard of this event and never realized 914-6 GTs did 123 sweep.
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post Apr 28 2006, 10:25 AM
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and here's the famous shot at the finish line



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post Apr 28 2006, 10:38 AM
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Its sitting over at Hergesheimers in Lake Forest with a stuck rear caliper.


I can help with that... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) We've already restored two sets of original GT calipers.
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post Apr 28 2006, 11:07 AM
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Out of the 50 or so cars that started only 7 finished. "It was a rainy Le Mans that year" So 6th place is the next to last place finish... The important statistic was the fact the little 914 was only 61 laps down on the Panzer. and on the same lap as the 911 that came in 7th.


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Out of 50 cars only 7 finished and a 914/6 came in 6th ahead of a 911, that is 43 cars that did not finish. You are kinda hard to please arn't you. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smoke.gif)
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