 Need help near Costa Mesa, Trying to make correct length wiring harness |
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| Randal |
 Aug 14 2006, 04:30 PM
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Advanced Member  Group: Members Posts: 4,446 Joined: 29-May 03 From: Los Altos, CA Member No.: 750  |
If anyone has a 914 close by Costa Mesa and would be willing to let Neil at Performance Developments, 1643 Monrovia Ave. Costa Mesa, CA 92627
Phone. 949.646.7461, Fax. 949.646.7471, use it as a mule for measuring the harness placement for my trick 914 motor, I'd be eternally grateful. I'll will pay for your time and gas to drop by Neil's for him to take the measurements. He said he only needed 10-15 minutes to get the key measurements. These are the guys that do the Link Fuel Injection System. As an added bonus who ever volunteers will get to see our dyno pull when we take the 2.4 engine down to Performance Solutions for the dial in. |
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| Brad Roberts |
Aug 14 2006, 04:35 PM
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914 Freak! Group: Members Posts: 19,148 Joined: 23-December 02 Member No.: 8 Region Association: None |
I can measure one for him and give him the numbers, if you cant get anyone to stop by. We have 5-6 members in Costa Mesa.
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| Randal |
Aug 14 2006, 04:50 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 4,446 Joined: 29-May 03 From: Los Altos, CA Member No.: 750 |
QUOTE(Brad Roberts @ Aug 14 2006, 03:35 PM)  I can measure one for him and give him the numbers, if you cant get anyone to stop by. We have 5-6 members in Costa Mesa. B Mike M. has already measured it and Neil has done a CAD drawing; however, seeing one will make a big difference to him; hence the request. Hopefully someone from CM will see this posting and be willing to help. |
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| MattR |
Aug 14 2006, 05:03 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,279 Joined: 23-January 04 From: SF Bay Area Member No.: 1,589 Region Association: Northern California |
I'm near costa mesa, but I dont have a running 914 (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
You need a 914 with fuel injection, right? |
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| Randal |
Aug 14 2006, 05:14 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 4,446 Joined: 29-May 03 From: Los Altos, CA Member No.: 750 |
QUOTE(MattR @ Aug 14 2006, 04:03 PM) I'm near costa mesa, but I dont have a running 914 (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) You need a 914 with fuel injection, right? It doesn't have to be running and it doesn't have to be fuel injection. FYI I'm going to be running TWM throttle bodies on CB intake manifolds, so Neil will be measuring the center points on the manifolds and then calculating the wire length to the injectors. |
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| MattR |
Aug 14 2006, 05:24 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,279 Joined: 23-January 04 From: SF Bay Area Member No.: 1,589 Region Association: Northern California |
Do you need the factory harness? Or a longblock? I think I have a harness in my car that I'm not using. I can drop it off tomorrow during my lunch break if you need it.
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| Randal |
Aug 14 2006, 05:33 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 4,446 Joined: 29-May 03 From: Los Altos, CA Member No.: 750 |
QUOTE(MattR @ Aug 14 2006, 04:24 PM) Do you need the factory harness? Or a longblock? I think I have a harness in my car that I'm not using. I can drop it off tomorrow during my lunch break if you need it. The factory harness doesn't help, Neil needs to see a car as his harness is very different from the factory. But thanks so much for the offer. |
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| JoeSharp |
Aug 14 2006, 07:04 PM
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In Irvine, Ca. May 15-18 Group: Members Posts: 3,947 Joined: 9-July 03 From: DeLand, Florida Member No.: 898 Region Association: South East States |
Randal: Just got off the phone with Niel and I can't help you right now. We have no 4's running here. Maybe I can get Thomas to go by later this week.
:PERMAGRIN: Joe |
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| Randal |
Aug 14 2006, 07:07 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 4,446 Joined: 29-May 03 From: Los Altos, CA Member No.: 750 |
QUOTE(Joe Sharp @ Aug 14 2006, 06:04 PM) Randal: Just got off the phone with Niel and I can't help you right now. We have no 4's running here. Maybe I can get Thomas to go by later this week. :PERMAGRIN: Joe Later this week would be great. Please let me know. Randal |
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| Aaron Cox |
Aug 14 2006, 10:53 PM
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Professional Lawn Dart Group: Retired Admin Posts: 24,541 Joined: 1-February 03 From: OC Member No.: 219 Region Association: Southern California |
i can be there friday.
AA PS- carbed car if it matters.... Randal, feel free to call me. 951-833-5311 |
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| Randal |
Aug 14 2006, 11:45 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 4,446 Joined: 29-May 03 From: Los Altos, CA Member No.: 750 |
QUOTE(Aaron Cox @ Aug 14 2006, 09:53 PM) i can be there friday. AA PS- carbed car if it matters.... Randal, feel free to call me. 951-833-5311 Thanks Aron for the Friday offer. Joe is going to check with Thomas to see if he could stop by Neil's. If not I'll be pleased to accept your offer. I'll definately give you a call. BTW I've never met Neil face to face but to tell the truth he is one of the most knowledgeable (engines/electronics) guys I have ever talked with on the phone. It is going to be interesting to see his electronics (Link injection) working on the Raby combination motor. |
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| So.Cal.914 |
Aug 15 2006, 12:01 AM
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"...And it has a front trunk too." Group: Members Posts: 6,588 Joined: 15-February 04 From: Low Desert, CA./ Hills of N.J. Member No.: 1,658 Region Association: None |
Is this the FI that CB Performance sells? I have been curious about that setup.
If this is the case please.......thread.......pics......needum. |
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| Mueller |
Aug 15 2006, 12:11 AM
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914 Freak! Group: Members Posts: 17,146 Joined: 4-January 03 From: Antioch, CA Member No.: 87 Region Association: None 
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QUOTE(Joe Sharp @ Aug 14 2006, 06:04 PM) Randal: Just got off the phone with Niel and I can't help you right now. We have no 4's running here. Maybe I can get Thomas to go by later this week. :PERMAGRIN: Joe I would think a /6 would work as long as he has the dimensions for a /4 as measured from the firewall and using the Centerline of the motor for 2 axis. CHT dizzy intake location for the heads (you could use the location of the injectors on a stock FI motor, just add a few inches and you might need a height ref for the TPS) |
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| Aaron Cox |
Aug 15 2006, 03:04 PM
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Professional Lawn Dart Group: Retired Admin Posts: 24,541 Joined: 1-February 03 From: OC Member No.: 219 Region Association: Southern California |
talked to randall today. im gonna be out that way on friday for him.
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| Crazyhippy |
Aug 16 2006, 01:27 PM
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Insert witty comment here... Group: Members Posts: 1,659 Joined: 28-July 05 From: Home of the Coyotes, AZ Member No.: 4,493 Region Association: None |
Neil is incredible... Talked w/ him a few time getting my link up and running. I'm running a Link on a 2liter in my 914, and it is amazing... far more capable than this particular tuner is...
Oh yeah, it's installed on a wrx motor (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) BJH |
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| Twystd1 |
Aug 16 2006, 01:33 PM
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You don't want to know... really..... Group: Members Posts: 2,514 Joined: 12-September 04 From: Newport Beach, California Member No.: 2,743 |
Randal,
I am on my way to Neil's shop to set up the time for Aaron and I to show up on Friday. Will let ya know whasss up when I return. Twystd1 |
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| Aaron Cox |
Aug 16 2006, 03:18 PM
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Professional Lawn Dart Group: Retired Admin Posts: 24,541 Joined: 1-February 03 From: OC Member No.: 219 Region Association: Southern California |
QUOTE(Twystd1 @ Aug 16 2006, 12:33 PM) Randal, I am on my way to Neil's shop to set up the time for Aaron and I to show up on Friday. Will let ya know whasss up when I return. Twystd1 thanks dad. AA |
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| Aaron Cox |
Aug 16 2006, 04:05 PM
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Professional Lawn Dart Group: Retired Admin Posts: 24,541 Joined: 1-February 03 From: OC Member No.: 219 Region Association: Southern California |
Randal,
Clayton just got back from neils shop. Said he was uber impressed with the shop and this guy's knowledge.... They brought up some things that need to be addressed..... clayton and neal went over the drawing you gave neil, Problem 1- doesnt show specific location of components in the engine bay and/or trunk, keep in mind, that the CDI box and the coil, can easily create RF interference with the ECU.... even using shielded cables for the ECU. Clayton and Neil were kind of hoping that you wanted the ECU in the trunk, and the CDI box and Coil in the engine bay. (best case scenario) therefore, clayton/myself want to 3way ((IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)) ((phonecall)) with you this evening to try and communicate the requirements for neil. (i work till 9, PM inbound with my number, and claytons. let me know what time works for you) clayton saw tons of his wiring harnesses, really awesome stuff, and nice guy to boot. NOTE: Neil just finished a 4 cam porsche carrera motor from a 356 carrera .... |
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| MattR |
Aug 16 2006, 07:23 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,279 Joined: 23-January 04 From: SF Bay Area Member No.: 1,589 Region Association: Northern California |
Thats not Neil that does Porsche 962 motors, is it?
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| Randal |
Aug 16 2006, 07:40 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 4,446 Joined: 29-May 03 From: Los Altos, CA Member No.: 750 |
QUOTE(Aaron Cox @ Aug 16 2006, 03:05 PM) Randal, Clayton just got back from neils shop. Said he was uber impressed with the shop and this guy's knowledge.... They brought up some things that need to be addressed..... clayton and neal went over the drawing you gave neil, Problem 1- doesnt show specific location of components in the engine bay and/or trunk, keep in mind, that the CDI box and the coil, can easily create RF interference with the ECU.... even using shielded cables for the ECU. Clayton and Neil were kind of hoping that you wanted the ECU in the trunk, and the CDI box and Coil in the engine bay. (best case scenario) therefore, clayton/myself want to 3way ((IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)) ((phonecall)) with you this evening to try and communicate the requirements for neil. (i work till 9, PM inbound with my number, and claytons. let me know what time works for you) clayton saw tons of his wiring harnesses, really awesome stuff, and nice guy to boot. NOTE: Neil just finished a 4 cam porsche carrera motor from a 356 carrera .... Neil is really an amazing guy. No question. As to your questions: Mike Mueller actually did the drawing. His plan was for the ECU to be mounted between the seats or on the firewall between the seats. His measurement assumes either of those positions. This also helps with the RF issues as the ECU is in the drivers compartment. I was planning on mounting the coil and battery (12lb) on a special fixture right where the existing batter tray resides. Maybe on top of the existing tray. The CDI is to be mounted on the right side of trunk sheet metal. The middle is taken up with my Accusump system. I'll try to do a picture. Thanks again for all your help. Randal |
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