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| aveale |
 Sep 20 2006, 12:34 PM
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Fun Times  Group: Members Posts: 194 Joined: 18-August 04 From: Ottawa, Canada Member No.: 2,563  |
Kudos to all you Porsche 4 cyl to 6 cyl converts .
I just read a Pano article on what is involved. Holy Crap. It is certainly something you do not want to take lightly!!!!! What about those "Turn-Key" coversions they advertize in Excellence mag. Anyone have info on one of those?? Cheers, (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smiley_notworthy.gif) |
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| brant |
Sep 20 2006, 01:29 PM
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914 Wizard Group: Members Posts: 11,625 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Colorado Member No.: 47 Region Association: Rocky Mountains 
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QUOTE(aveale @ Sep 20 2006, 12:34 PM)  Kudos to all you Porsche 4 cyl to 6 cyl converts . I just read a Pano article on what is involved. Holy Crap. It is certainly something you do not want to take lightly!!!!! What about those "Turn-Key" coversions they advertize in Excellence mag. Anyone have info on one of those?? Cheers, (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smiley_notworthy.gif) run a search for that company and form your own opinion about them. brant |
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| drgchapman |
Sep 20 2006, 01:32 PM
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Turn-key, yeah right.
I bought a 1970 914 roller that had already had a carbed 3.2 in and out of it. I put in a 3.2 Motronic from an 86 Carrera. Crazy thing is, the motor and tranny just bolt right in, but it pretty much stops there. Wiring was not easy, all linkages needed to be fabbed. I would recommend a remote oil cooler in addition to the one on the engine. I went with the 915-WEVO conversion, mucho $$$. Car is a blast to drive. I really enjoy the a/x's. My quandry now is, do I leave it a narrow body sleeper, or go big and put on the GT flares and 8" and 9" Fuchs sitting in the garage. A fellow dentist (orthodontist) and nice guy as well. |
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| MoveQik |
Sep 20 2006, 01:44 PM
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What size wheels can I fit? Group: Members Posts: 4,645 Joined: 5-April 05 From: Scottsdale, AZ Member No.: 3,881 Region Association: Southwest Region |
QUOTE(drgchapman @ Sep 20 2006, 12:32 PM) I went with the 915-WEVO conversion, mucho $$$. Car is a blast to drive. I really enjoy the a/x's. My quandry now is, do I leave it a narrow body sleeper, or go big and put on the GT flares and 8" and 9" Fuchs sitting in the garage. A fellow dentist (orthodontist) and nice guy as well. I say leave it narrow. I might be biased however. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/happy11.gif) I saw your car at WCC. It looks amazing as is. |
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| 914turboford |
Sep 20 2006, 02:05 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 74 Joined: 29-September 03 From: Pollock Pines, CA (near Tahoe) Member No.: 1,209 |
QUOTE(MW 914 @ Sep 20 2006, 11:44 AM) QUOTE(drgchapman @ Sep 20 2006, 12:32 PM) I went with the 915-WEVO conversion, mucho $$$. Car is a blast to drive. I really enjoy the a/x's. My quandry now is, do I leave it a narrow body sleeper, or go big and put on the GT flares and 8" and 9" Fuchs sitting in the garage. A fellow dentist (orthodontist) and nice guy as well. I say leave it narrow. I might be biased however. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/happy11.gif) I saw your car at WCC. It looks amazing as is. I say make it wide. Stock is boring. |
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| aveale |
Sep 20 2006, 03:01 PM
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Fun Times Group: Members Posts: 194 Joined: 18-August 04 From: Ottawa, Canada Member No.: 2,563 |
QUOTE(drgchapman @ Sep 20 2006, 11:32 AM) Turn-key, yeah right. I bought a 1970 914 roller that had already had a carbed 3.2 in and out of it. I put in a 3.2 Motronic from an 86 Carrera. Crazy thing is, the motor and tranny just bolt right in, but it pretty much stops there. Wiring was not easy, all linkages needed to be fabbed. I would recommend a remote oil cooler in addition to the one on the engine. I went with the 915-WEVO conversion, mucho $$$. Car is a blast to drive. I really enjoy the a/x's. My quandry now is, do I leave it a narrow body sleeper, or go big and put on the GT flares and 8" and 9" Fuchs sitting in the garage. A fellow dentist (orthodontist) and nice guy as well. So your car had a 3.2 in it, so it was "good to go" for your 86 Carrera engine - or did you have to start from scratch again..... T |
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| So.Cal.914 |
Sep 20 2006, 03:07 PM
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"...And it has a front trunk too." Group: Members Posts: 6,588 Joined: 15-February 04 From: Low Desert, CA./ Hills of N.J. Member No.: 1,658 Region Association: None |
That much power is great but if you can't use it when you want to what is the use
of having it. WIDE..... |
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| Heeltoe914 |
Sep 20 2006, 04:26 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,135 Joined: 31-January 06 From: Tujunga Calif, Member No.: 5,506 |
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QUOTE(So.Cal.914 @ Sep 20 2006, 02:07 PM) That much power is great but if you can't use it when you want to what is the use of having it. WIDE..... |
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| michel richard |
Sep 20 2006, 04:32 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,291 Joined: 22-July 03 From: Longueuil, Québec Member No.: 936 |
And wide cars look lower (which is Guuuuud), especially from the back, which is where you want other cars to be, in any event. So, it all meshes.
This is an area where what's good for teeners is not necessarily good for women, think about it. From a non-dentist, perhaps still a good guy. Michel |
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| J P Stein |
Sep 20 2006, 05:25 PM
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Irrelevant old fart Group: Members Posts: 8,797 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Vancouver, WA Member No.: 45 Region Association: None |
QUOTE(drgchapman @ Sep 20 2006, 12:32 PM) Turn-key, yeah right. I bought a 1970 914 roller that had already had a carbed 3.2 in and out of it. I put in a 3.2 Motronic from an 86 Carrera. Crazy thing is, the motor and tranny just bolt right in, but it pretty much stops there. Wiring was not easy, all linkages needed to be fabbed. I would recommend a remote oil cooler in addition to the one on the engine. I went with the 915-WEVO conversion, mucho $$$. Car is a blast to drive. I really enjoy the a/x's. My quandry now is, do I leave it a narrow body sleeper, or go big and put on the GT flares and 8" and 9" Fuchs sitting in the garage. A fellow dentist (orthodontist) and nice guy as well. You need more tiar if you wanna catch me....now that I fingered out MY tiar problem, you're toast (IMG:style_emoticons/default/burnout.gif) Aveale(if that's your real name (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) ) Go buy one that is already done. They go for about 50 cents on the dollar of the builders investment....or since you're a dentist, just fork over large bundles of cash to your favorite shop like Gary did. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) |
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| drgchapman |
Sep 20 2006, 05:57 PM
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Dude, I think yuour thread was hijacked................. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/hijacked.gif)
it wasn't me |
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| JPB |
Sep 20 2006, 06:05 PM
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The Crimson Rocket smiles in your general direction. Group: Members Posts: 2,927 Joined: 12-November 05 From: Tapmahamock, Va. Member No.: 5,107 |
Conversions are what they are and are as painless as the money you dish out to get it done. You pay to play or no money and no funny.
(IMG:style_emoticons/default/beer.gif) Word to the wise, go FI if at all possible and HP is like money; its always nice to have some extra for one of those...ya know ...crazy days!!! |
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| GeorgeRud |
Sep 20 2006, 06:07 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,725 Joined: 27-July 05 From: Chicagoland Member No.: 4,482 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
If you enjoy working on cars and getting your hands dirty, go for your own conversion. It is very satisfying and fun to solve the inevitable problems and glitches that come up.
The only problem is that you never finish, there's always something that you want to update or change. The finished project is truly something you can be proud of. Dollar wise, I would agree that you will get the most bang for your buck by buying someone else's conversion. The parts necessary are still available, but none are cheap anymore, and some things are getting rare. Either way, there is nothing that compares with opening the throttle on a big engined 914-6 and feel it fly. There are faster cars out there, but few that allow you to feel so connected to the road. Whichever way you decide, enjoy the project/quest! |
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| drgchapman |
Sep 20 2006, 06:16 PM
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Current Stable Group: NoClassifiedAccess Posts: 922 Joined: 20-September 04 From: Portland, OR Member No.: 2,789 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
QUOTE So your car had a 3.2 in it, so it was "good to go" for your 86 Carrera engine - or did you have to start from scratch again..... T The carbed engine had very basic wiring, pressure and temp, starter, the basics. The Motronic has the DME, fuel pump relay, DME relay, Flywheel sensors, yada yada. I managed to get it about 85% correct. My local race shop, Rothsport, cleaned up my mistakes. The 3.2 fits quite snug with the fuel injection, but work well. Any maintainance will be done after dropping the motor. Mainly a wiring thing. I changed to WEVO tanny mounts for a more sloid feel. The big ticket item was the tranny. JP is right, it much cheaper to buy one done. I am just too picky. Gary |
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| ClayPerrine |
Sep 20 2006, 08:16 PM
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Life's been good to me so far..... Group: Admin Posts: 15,474 Joined: 11-September 03 From: Hurst, TX. Member No.: 1,143 Region Association: NineFourteenerVille
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OK...I have one of the six conversions... But I went the other way.
I have a small bore six. 2.4L T motor with MFI. There is nothing like the sound of a small bore six at full song... Betty always tells me "It sounds like a friggin race car!" Tuning the MFI is a steep learning curve. I am an experienced, retired professional mechanic, and I needed some patience, a lot of reading, and some actual instruction from a experienced MFI guru to get it to run good. Yea, I know the motor is only 140HP, but damn its fun!!! Next stop... 2.4L 911 S spec motor with 2.2 Pistons and cylinders (10.3 to 1 compression) and MFI! 200 HP and it will still have that SWEET sound when it tachs out! The big bore sixes are nice, but they just don't scream like a small bore six! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/driving.gif) |
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| Joe Bob |
Sep 20 2006, 08:38 PM
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Retired admin, banned a few times Group: Members Posts: 17,427 Joined: 24-December 02 From: Boulder CO Member No.: 5 Region Association: None |
It's all in the muff....my 3.2 sounds like a banshee at full throttle.....
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| drgchapman |
Sep 20 2006, 09:58 PM
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QUOTE mikez Sep 20 2006, 07:38 PM Post #16 It's all in the muff....my 3.2 sounds like a banshee at full throttle..... I agree, mine sounds awesome as well, coming into 3000+ RPM on up, "it sounds like a friggin' race car". We had to fab an exhaust to clear the WEVO conversion. It occupies about 20% of the muffler space behind the tranny. I have a fairly small flowmaster muffler on mine. |
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| jim912928 |
Sep 20 2006, 10:14 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,485 Joined: 8-January 04 From: Granger, IN Member No.: 1,536 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
drgchapman...can you show a pic of the exhaust setup...I have my 3.2 on the garage floor...accumulating all the conversion parts as we speak.
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| dekman |
Sep 20 2006, 10:32 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 458 Joined: 12-December 04 From: Ojai,CA Member No.: 3,274 Region Association: None |
Skinny VS WIDE........GO WIDE!!!!! I agree with MikeZ....it's mostly in the muffler! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/bootyshake.gif) I love BIG BUTTS (cars only). (IMG:style_emoticons/default/thumb3d.gif)
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| turboman808 |
Sep 20 2006, 10:41 PM
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QUOTE(drgchapman @ Sep 20 2006, 07:58 PM) I agree, mine sounds awesome as well, coming into 3000+ RPM on up, "it sounds like a friggin' race car". We had to fab an exhaust to clear the WEVO conversion. It occupies about 20% of the muffler space behind the tranny. I have a fairly small flowmaster muffler on mine. I have a magnaflow up between the rear of the car and the transmission. Wonder if thats gonna work if I go with a wevo. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif) My old muffler was just to loud for me at open throttle. The new and the old exhaust sound about the same at idle up to about 3500. After that it was painfully loud. Now it's a real joy to hit 8000rpm Dekmans exhaust looks like my old one. |
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