 Shocks - working on car today 12/27/06, Pulled rear to change springs shock question |
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| Michael N |
 Dec 27 2006, 11:32 AM
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Certifiable  Group: Members Posts: 1,426 Joined: 6-June 04 From: San Jose, Ca Member No.: 2,164 Region Association: Northern California  |
I am installing new rear springs and wanted to know how the shocks respond when compressed. I collaspe the shocks and they stay in the position where they were last left. I remember last time I installed shocks when I collasped the shock it would go back to full extention. Is my memory bad or are these shocks gone?
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| ws91420 |
Dec 27 2006, 11:47 AM
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Yes I have one a Lensley 914 Group: Members Posts: 2,063 Joined: 10-September 03 From: Ruther Glen,VA (halfway between sticks and civilization) Member No.: 1,137 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Bad shock Bad shock Yep they are bad.
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| TravisNeff |
Dec 27 2006, 12:09 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,082 Joined: 20-March 03 From: Mesa, AZ Member No.: 447 Region Association: Southwest Region 
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Gas shocks should rebound back to their original height. Oil/Hydraulic shocks will collapse as you describe. So, what kind of shocks are they?
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| Michael N |
Dec 27 2006, 12:27 PM
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Certifiable Group: Members Posts: 1,426 Joined: 6-June 04 From: San Jose, Ca Member No.: 2,164 Region Association: Northern California |
QUOTE(Travis Neff @ Dec 27 2006, 10:09 AM)  Gas shocks should rebound back to their original height. Oil/Hydraulic shocks will collapse as you describe. So, what kind of shocks are they? Koni Reds #82k-1722 Attached image(s)  
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| Allan |
Dec 27 2006, 12:41 PM
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Teenerless Weenie Group: Members Posts: 8,373 Joined: 5-July 04 From: Western Mesopotamia Member No.: 2,304 Region Association: Southern California |
They are fine. I have reds on my car and they don't rebound when compressed.
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| Michael N |
Dec 27 2006, 02:12 PM
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Certifiable Group: Members Posts: 1,426 Joined: 6-June 04 From: San Jose, Ca Member No.: 2,164 Region Association: Northern California |
Thanks for the responses. I'll just clean the add the new springs then reinstall.
As much as I might like Koni sports right now, I am happy to put these back in the car today. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) |
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| Aaron Cox |
Dec 27 2006, 02:16 PM
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Professional Lawn Dart Group: Retired Admin Posts: 24,541 Joined: 1-February 03 From: OC Member No.: 219 Region Association: Southern California |
hmm....
old reds - maybe oil... my koni reds (external adjust) are gas shocks and definitely rebound back to full |
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| Twystd1 |
Dec 27 2006, 02:33 PM
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You don't want to know... really..... Group: Members Posts: 2,514 Joined: 12-September 04 From: Newport Beach, California Member No.: 2,743 |
Old reds are Hydraulic with no nitrogen content..
Therefore they don't rebound. Cheers, Clayton |
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| ws91420 |
Dec 27 2006, 02:52 PM
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Yes I have one a Lensley 914 Group: Members Posts: 2,063 Joined: 10-September 03 From: Ruther Glen,VA (halfway between sticks and civilization) Member No.: 1,137 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
QUOTE(Twystd1 @ Dec 27 2006, 03:33 PM) Old reds are Hydraulic with no nitrogen content.. Therefore they don't rebound. Cheers, Clayton But if they move in and out with little or no resistance they are bad. Looking at the date on the shock I would be questioning it. |
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| Michael N |
Dec 27 2006, 05:56 PM
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Certifiable Group: Members Posts: 1,426 Joined: 6-June 04 From: San Jose, Ca Member No.: 2,164 Region Association: Northern California |
The shock has alot of resistance when moving it in or out. I'm guessing it takes about 25lbs of pull to get it moving. It moves slowly as well.
I went to the Koni web site for instructions on how to set the adjustment of the shock. I set them to 3/4 of a turn from full soft as this old book that came with the car described when using 180lb coils. I hope much has not changed in the past 20+ years since it was published. I was actually amazed that the car was raised slightly by the addition of the new springs. The Weltmeister 180lb springs were about 2 1/2" taller than the springs that came out of the car. The springs that were removed did not appear to have been cut down but were just tired. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/yawn.gif) If I had to guess, I'd say they were 140lb. The new 180lb springs actually ride smoother than the older springs. I was not expecting that result. Needless to say I am happy with the results. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Attached image(s) 
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| Dr. Roger |
Dec 28 2006, 12:03 AM
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A bat out of hell. Group: Members Posts: 3,944 Joined: 31-January 05 From: Hercules, California Member No.: 3,533 Region Association: Northern California |
JLO's rears were those model #.
they are hydraulic and you must compress them to adjust rebound. (note: "HEAVY" stamped in lower cylinder) if they work, they work. =-) |
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