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> i have to pull the engine, locked up
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post May 7 2007, 03:05 PM
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the engine would turn (by hand) prior to the install. initially it turned fine when trying to start it. never did light off. made a wierd noise or 2, now, it won't turn at all. full charge on bat. starter just clicks. plugs out, in gear, pass side tire chocked, i can not turn the engine with the dr side tire at all. like it's hitting something. i have 0 answers or ideas. just about at the end and ready to take a huge loss on everything. debating whether to pull the engine, and just roll the car out and tarp it. words can not express....

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post May 7 2007, 03:12 PM
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You could have dropped a valve seat, that happened on my 2.0L once.

Happened when it was hot though, but still possible.
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post May 7 2007, 03:17 PM
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yeah i have had a valve pop off and get lodged in the cylinder/piston area...

then it finally stopped, i think something in the oil pump locked the engine up tho, due to mateal particles coming from the huge hole in the piston
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post May 7 2007, 03:23 PM
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i have not started this engine. there was no metal in the sump when i removed it to change the oil.

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post May 7 2007, 03:26 PM
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Will the engine turn backwards from the point of lockup?
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post May 7 2007, 03:31 PM
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ill go check.
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post May 7 2007, 03:37 PM
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no i can't. tried to turn it with the dr side tire. trans i used was known to be good when installed. i did do a clutch package. is there something in the array that could cause this.
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post May 7 2007, 03:39 PM
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sounds like something is jammed in the flywheel/ clutch area...
ALWAYS make it a point to turn the engine after mating it to the gearbox!!! BEFORE install!
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post May 7 2007, 03:43 PM
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puttin' on the coveralls and getting started. i'll get some pictures when i separate the 2. the engine would turn over. then try it again, thunk, and quit turning.

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post May 7 2007, 03:44 PM
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Just drop the transaxle off and see if you can turn the motor then.

Report back in an hour. Otherwise you are SLOW!!!!!!!!!!!
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post May 7 2007, 03:48 PM
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I'd do a quick check on the starter to see if it's jammed in the flywheel teeth.
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post May 7 2007, 03:50 PM
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by check, you mean just remove the starter first?

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post May 7 2007, 04:06 PM
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post May 7 2007, 04:07 PM
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QUOTE(SLITS @ May 7 2007, 02:48 PM) *

I'd do a quick check on the starter to see if it's jammed in the flywheel teeth.

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Yes pull the starter and inspect the teeth on the starter and the F/W.

Also test the starter on the ground and make sure the motor as well as

the solenoid works.
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post May 7 2007, 04:18 PM
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starter out. no sign of hammering on the starter gear. the flywheel edge seems WAY close to the upper edge of the bell housing area. as seen thru the hole the starter left behind. no camera right now. how much clearence should there be from the fw edge to the bell housing? i'm not going to fight this with the engine in. also, the bolts that secure what haynes refers to as the "clutch assembly' sit proud of the flywheel. is that correct? or should they sit recessed into flywheel?

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post May 7 2007, 04:45 PM
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btw. the engine does rotate with the starter removed.
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post May 7 2007, 05:04 PM
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HA! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) while rotating the engine i noted some orange spray paint on the diaphram housing. i seem to remember a certain engine coming to me with the same spray paint on the same part. the fw gear on that engine was all torn to hell. could it be the curse of....?

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post May 7 2007, 05:12 PM
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Now, the fact that it does rotate is REALLY GOOD NEWS

I would hope that the flywheel is not the larger diameter one (225 mm instead of 215 mm).

I'll try to get you a pic of a flywheel with clutch installed.
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post May 7 2007, 05:30 PM
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there is a tight .018" distance from the outside radius of the fw (teeth) to the bell housing. i measured this thru the hole for the starter.

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post May 7 2007, 05:43 PM
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You are going to have to at least pull the trans off of the engine to find out why the flywheel or pressure plate are sticking out so far.

If it was me, I'd just pull the whole thing and work on it outside the car. But that's just me.



Good luck to you.

I hope it's something easy.
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