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> i have to pull the engine, locked up
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post May 7 2007, 06:05 PM
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th whole package is coming out john.
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post May 7 2007, 07:49 PM
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is the fw being this close to the bell housing on the trans the standard? if it's the diaphram unit is what's wrong and the fw is right i'd rather not have to pop the fw off.

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post May 7 2007, 07:59 PM
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I can't see anything bad there.
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post May 7 2007, 08:18 PM
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Looks right to me also. Did you test the starter?
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post May 7 2007, 08:20 PM
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check this one out.....

did you put a NEW oil pump in this motor?

if you did... and didnt machine the tang.... the gears could be eating into the front cover....

but that would be felt without the trans tho.....

whats the end play on the motor?
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post May 7 2007, 08:49 PM
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(IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) 215 vs 210? disc that came out is identical (no #s) to this and the comparo picts. flywheel has been turned rusty is from long term resting in the garage while installed. can i dress it down with a fine scotch-brite. note the fingers. i think dave hunt came over and the end play was ok. don't remember the #s, that was sometime ago. time to heat up the visa.

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post May 7 2007, 08:58 PM
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Please tell me you didn't use this pressure plate!!


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post May 7 2007, 09:04 PM
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Kevin ..... I thought maybe you changed the flywheel. With the bigger flywheel, the tranny shouldn't fit.

I agree with Demick ........ those fingers look uneven indicating a weak spot in the pressure plate ..... or it could be the angle of the photo.
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post May 7 2007, 09:28 PM
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Nope, I think your right Ron. Looks bad to me also.
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post May 7 2007, 09:31 PM
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So does the engine turn freely with the trans off?
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post May 7 2007, 09:35 PM
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QUOTE(rhodyguy @ May 7 2007, 03:45 PM) *

btw. the engine does rotate with the starter removed.
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post May 7 2007, 10:08 PM
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that fw is not the on that came with the engine. i don't think it came with one. this engine deal happened quite sometime ago and i don't have any issue with the sale. i think the starter prob is a blessing at this point. i was crazy sick with the grave's desease (if you're not afflicted, you have NO idea. not an excuse mind you) when i bolted this thing together. there are about 5 months of my life where i have no speciifc memories of certain events. so i'll step back, recheck the end play. i honestly don't know if i even checked the ep prior. all i know is there is no fore aft movement at all when i push/pull on the fw.

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post May 7 2007, 10:18 PM
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what about a pic of the starter?
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post May 7 2007, 11:42 PM
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i put this starter in during the wcc04' in the side yard at high perf house. it's never given me a lick of trouble.

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post May 8 2007, 12:00 AM
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Have you found any shiny spots where it was rubbing? I don't see anything in your pictures.can you compare your old flywheel (that didn't cause you any trouble) with this new flywheel?

Something just doesn't seem right. Does the input shaft of your trans turn freely?
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post May 8 2007, 12:08 AM
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i'm being a bit unclear. so i'll back track a bit. the pictured fw is not the one that was on the engine i took out of the car. the one pictured is one i got from a member that had been machined. the trans input shaft spins
freely without any bind or glitches. more pictures coming


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post May 8 2007, 12:17 AM
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I know that I sound like a broken record but have you tested the starter?

See that the solenoid kicks out and that the starter motor spins. I would start there

and if you feel strongly about the end play, check it,it's not that big a deal.
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post May 8 2007, 01:08 AM
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Starter gear is skipping against the top of the FW teeth. Look at the top of the FW teeth.

Looks like starter has an issue. The starter gear is getting stuck in the FW before it gets totally engaged. Then stays stuck to the FW because of improper mesh. (distinct possibilty)

Any body live close to you with a spare "KNOWN GOOD" starter you can try?

That would answer the starter question once and for all.

Thats what I see so far. Couldn't hurt to try.

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post May 8 2007, 09:23 AM
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i don't know anyone with a loose, known good starter clayton. even w/a defective starter, i don't understand how it could cause the engine to not rotate, when the starter is not energized. dave hunt heard the engine do it's 'thunk'. a conundrum. thanks for the input everybody. the engine drop was sure fast and easy. practice, practice, practice... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

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post May 8 2007, 09:52 AM
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I don't like the look of the flywheel to crank bolts. Looks like something is rubbing there, and that must not happen. There should be a tiny amount of endplay on the flywheel. I forget the specs, but it is very important, as is the number of shims required. I also use a new O-ring, felt washer, pilot bearing, lock washer, and flywheel bolts when I put a flywheel on an engine. A loose flywheel cost me large one time. I was told to Loctite those new bolts in place by the head mechanic at Stoddard Imported Cars.

I also use a new plastic cup in the throw-out arm, and new bushes on the T-O bearing. I know, lots of little details, but it works for me. Most of those parts are cheap, and tend to be worn out.
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