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> Some roller cam detailed info (and new pics), I could not find the previous "roller" thread
Jake Raby
post Jul 16 2007, 06:37 AM
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OK, finally got a few minutes to share some roller cam info....
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Roller cams are the major factor that keeps the VW pushrod driven engine from being made more modern. All of todays modern pushrod engines use roller cams and lifters to provide valve actuation, due to this these engines can run on oils that do not have as much zinc and phosphorous contant and this is a huge factor that is driving all my engines to the roller technology.

Roller cams provide the following:

- More power than any flat tappet cam of similar characteristcs, due primarily to faster opening events.

- Less friction than a flat tappet as the roller wheel actually "rolls" on the cam lobe instead of depending on lobe tapers and lifter crown radii to spin the lifter (HUGE)

-The use of roller cams and lifters allows much small lift and duration numbers to be used to gain the same net power as a much larger flat tappet cam, this means better idle, better EFI system compatability due to a stronger and more stable manifold pressure.

It's no secret that we are doing the roller lifter development to meet two main objectives, the first being better compatibility with modern oils and the second to make more power. Roller equipped engines have serious throttle response compared to flat tappet cams and they also have serious torque curves due to the extreme chamber filling at lower lifts because of the ramp speed of the cam.

The friction reduction with these cams and lifters is a huge benefit, the way our roller lifters are designed there is virtually nothing to wear out as the engine gains age. The use of an 8620 tool steel camshaft blank coupled to the rioller wheel that is made from another grade of tool steel (for compatability) results in two components that are well lubricated, resistant to wear and resistant to failure either on the street or on the track.

My emphasis with this development has been 13 months in the making, the first 5 months was the simplest, basically sourcing materials, designing lobes and having the cam blanks made up from scratch. After this point the project was stalled due to one company going out of business, my schedule and all sorts of tooling issues with the case alignment tools we designed to install the bushings. The last six months has been full of ups and downs but last week we finally got the bushings installed the way that made me happy and with the latest revision to the toolimng is fairly simple for us.

This week we will be doing tests in the simulation device and then tearing down to measure wear, bushing aligment and etc. What will follow is a series of 4 different test engines being built with both roller and flat tappet cams for comparisons in power and tuning. After these four engines are completed this technology will be the standard here with all of my "Performer" based engines using the technology by mid 2008 at the latest.

I'll close by saying this development is being made primarily for STREET engines, not race engines! Most every racing venue that exists for the 914 has rules that do not allow for roller camshafts to be employed- when something is made illegal by a racing body you can bet that it really works and gives it's users a huge edge-

Here are some detailed pics, I have shared more similar pics over at my forums in the R&D section.
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Here are some of the bushing alignment tools used to check bushing install to ensure the roller lifters are going to be truly perpendicular to the camshaft
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This is a digital plot from our cam profiler that clearly shows the differences between a roller and flat tappet cam that have the same .050 duration values and similar lobe lift, note how much wider and flatter the 9900 series camshaft is, this and all 9900 series cams are rollers.
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So, there ya have it, couple these to a pair of porkies heads and 300 REAL HP was never made so easy or reliable before. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/boldblue.gif)

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Jake Raby   Some roller cam detailed info (and new pics)   Jul 16 2007, 06:37 AM
Jake Raby   Oops, forgot a pic or two of the billet rocker arm...   Jul 16 2007, 06:56 AM
Jake Raby   Now for some pics of the porkies heads that will a...   Jul 16 2007, 09:34 AM
grantsfo   The six cylinder guys really won't be liking...   Jul 16 2007, 01:13 PM
Bleyseng   Way cool Jake, I have stated a rollercam fund for ...   Jul 16 2007, 10:01 AM
Jake Raby   160HP from a daily driver 2056 is a reality... I a...   Jul 16 2007, 10:11 AM
greybeard50   160HP from a daily driver 2056 is a reality... I ...   Jul 16 2007, 02:52 PM
914nerd   :drooley: When are these going to be out and avai...   Jul 16 2007, 10:16 AM
Jake Raby   These are going to be only available in complete e...   Jul 16 2007, 11:05 AM
Thomas J Bliznik   These are going to be only available in complete ...   Jul 16 2007, 02:10 PM
Bleyseng   These are going to be only available in complete...   Jul 16 2007, 02:15 PM
Thomas J Bliznik   [quote name='Thomas J Bliznik' post='924041' date...   Jul 16 2007, 02:27 PM
McMark   I am so excited about all these new developments. ...   Jul 16 2007, 12:52 PM
DNHunt   Man Jake this is worse than being 3years old with ...   Jul 16 2007, 01:01 PM
Jake Raby   Grant, we have never really had an adventure go ba...   Jul 16 2007, 01:32 PM
grantsfo   Grant, we have never really had an adventure go b...   Jul 16 2007, 06:39 PM
SirAndy   I'll be the first to let you know when someone...   Jul 16 2007, 06:48 PM
grantsfo   I'll be the first to let you know when someon...   Jul 16 2007, 06:58 PM
SirAndy   I'd run against Andrew on the track any day ...   Jul 16 2007, 07:30 PM
grantsfo   I'd run against Andrew on the track any day ...   Jul 16 2007, 07:43 PM
Bleyseng   [quote name='SirAndy' post='924189' date='Jul 16 ...   Jul 16 2007, 07:33 PM
grantsfo   When did Jake just become a "bunch of talk...   Jul 16 2007, 07:49 PM
Bleyseng   When did Jake just become a "bunch of talk...   Jul 17 2007, 09:40 AM
ChrisNPDrider   :clap: For PCA racing the upgrade would probably ...   Jul 16 2007, 01:34 PM
Jake Raby   Yep, it would be worth taking the points hit to in...   Jul 16 2007, 01:41 PM
Trevorg7   Sorry - pet peeve of mine If people could care ...   Jul 16 2007, 01:49 PM
Bleyseng   It does create another option for 914's and gu...   Jul 16 2007, 01:55 PM
Jake Raby   Rollers for the westy are no issue.. I am working ...   Jul 16 2007, 02:00 PM
smontanaro   Silly question I know, but just where are the roll...   Jul 16 2007, 02:26 PM
Bleyseng   Silly question I know, but just where are the rol...   Jul 16 2007, 02:32 PM
Jake Raby   Tom, we have not even been concerned with sales at...   Jul 16 2007, 02:36 PM
cuca914   Tom, we have not even been concerned with sales a...   Jul 16 2007, 03:00 PM
Thomas J Bliznik   Tom, we have not even been concerned with sales ...   Jul 16 2007, 03:17 PM
Jake Raby   We'll always be keeping the daily driver combo...   Jul 16 2007, 02:58 PM
McMark   You definitely shouldn't wait, there will alwa...   Jul 16 2007, 03:13 PM
cuca914   You definitely shouldn't wait, there will alw...   Jul 16 2007, 03:19 PM
Jake Raby   Don't wait on me... None of this craziness may...   Jul 16 2007, 03:18 PM
toon1   [quote name='cuca914' post='924066' date='Jul 16 ...   Jul 16 2007, 03:22 PM
Thomas J Bliznik   [quote name='cuca914' post='924066' date='Jul 16...   Jul 16 2007, 03:25 PM
Jake Raby   #3 will get you going now- if you have and want to...   Jul 16 2007, 03:31 PM
cuca914   #3 will get you going now- if you have and want t...   Jul 16 2007, 03:41 PM
Jake Raby   Yes, we are still selling it, if you need the 9550...   Jul 16 2007, 03:43 PM
toon1   #3 will get you going now- if you have and want t...   Jul 16 2007, 05:53 PM
Jake Raby   Two injectors per runner/cylinder.. One down low b...   Jul 16 2007, 06:05 PM
crash914   OMG!! You are really pushing the envelope...   Jul 16 2007, 06:23 PM
Jake Raby   Individual runners only, a plenum that would feed ...   Jul 16 2007, 06:29 PM
Jake Raby   Thanks for the reality check Grant, there always h...   Jul 16 2007, 06:44 PM
grantsfo   Thanks for the reality check Grant, there always ...   Jul 16 2007, 06:51 PM
Jake Raby   I'm sure your customers here appreciate yo...   Jul 16 2007, 07:03 PM
Dan (Almaden Valley)   I have a nicely built 2056 with the Raby 9550 cam ...   Jul 16 2007, 06:54 PM
grantsfo   I have a nicely built 2056 with the Raby 9550 cam...   Jul 16 2007, 07:00 PM
Dan (Almaden Valley)   it all takes developement....Jake is willing to pu...   Jul 16 2007, 07:19 PM
Jake Raby   Randal's car will be fast and he is working th...   Jul 16 2007, 07:23 PM
grantsfo   Randal's car will be fast and he is working t...   Jul 16 2007, 07:54 PM
Jake Raby   Our car is built- we tested it at a circle track l...   Jul 16 2007, 07:40 PM
Jake Raby   We are not shooting for just power, a HUGE reason ...   Jul 16 2007, 07:52 PM
sww914   Thanks for the reality check Grant, there always ...   Jul 16 2007, 08:54 PM
Jake Raby   And all I need is the right person and the right c...   Jul 16 2007, 09:07 PM
grantsfo   And all I need is the right person and the right ...   Jul 16 2007, 10:22 PM
Dan (Almaden Valley)   I would be happy to use my car as a test mule for ...   Jul 16 2007, 09:12 PM
Joe Ricard   I would be happy to use my car as a test mule for...   Jul 16 2007, 09:27 PM
Joe Ricard   Seems like Grant has forgotten to take his Meds to...   Jul 16 2007, 09:13 PM
grantsfo   Seems like Grant has forgotten to take his Meds t...   Jul 16 2007, 10:09 PM
Jake Raby   Dan, I like your style and your attention to detai...   Jul 16 2007, 09:21 PM
Dan (Almaden Valley)   Dan, I like your style and your attention to deta...   Jul 16 2007, 11:01 PM
Jake Raby   Ok, you find me, or I'll find you, one way or ...   Jul 16 2007, 10:29 PM
grantsfo   Ok, you find me, or I'll find you, one way or...   Jul 16 2007, 10:31 PM
grantsfo   LOL! RPG = Raby Powered Grenade.   Jul 16 2007, 10:30 PM
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grantsfo   Yep, phone call works fine- I am here right now a...   Jul 16 2007, 10:46 PM
McMark   :rotfl: You guys are funny.   Jul 16 2007, 10:42 PM
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Dan (Almaden Valley)   Cheap bastard. I don't know if cell phones ac...   Jul 16 2007, 11:07 PM
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Brando   I'd love to be sponsored with a forced-inducti...   Jul 16 2007, 11:23 PM
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Jake Raby   Grant and I both know that the big boys play in SC...   Jul 17 2007, 12:36 AM
grantsfo   Grant and I both know that the big boys play in S...   Jul 17 2007, 01:22 AM
gregrobbins   Type IV powered car that whipped a bunch of sixes.   Jul 17 2007, 12:47 AM
craig downs   As the saying goes "when the green flag drops...   Jul 17 2007, 01:10 AM
Jake Raby   Morning is going great- talking to McMark about ro...   Jul 17 2007, 01:25 AM
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ConeDodger   Morning is going great- talking to McMark about ...   Jul 17 2007, 12:12 PM
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nebreitling   valid point -- especially about the driver -- but ...   Jul 17 2007, 12:19 PM
ConeDodger   valid point -- especially about the driver -- but...   Jul 17 2007, 03:47 PM
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hwgunner   Grant, just curious-- What are your best times fo...   Jul 17 2007, 02:01 PM
Twystd1   THIS IS GREAT STUFF...!!!!!...   Jul 17 2007, 02:35 PM
sww914   If you guys both show up at Laguna, Buttonwillow, ...   Jul 17 2007, 03:01 PM
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