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| URY914 |
 Jul 17 2007, 04:51 PM
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I built the lightest 914 in the history of mankind.  Group: Members Posts: 121,038 Joined: 3-February 03 From: Jacksonville, FL Member No.: 222 Region Association: None  |
Pat are you reading all this and have nothing to say for yourself?
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| orthobiz |
Jul 17 2007, 05:03 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,754 Joined: 8-January 07 From: Cadillac, Michigan Member No.: 7,438 Region Association: Upper MidWest 
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QUOTE(Johny Blackstain @ Jul 17 2007, 01:41 PM)  f*ck it- I'm Italian. Like, Gianni Negromacula? Paul |
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| Johny Blackstain |
 Jul 17 2007, 05:28 PM
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Walnut Elite Stratocaster player Group: Members Posts: 3,434 Joined: 5-December 06 From: The Shenandoah River Member No.: 7,318 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region
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QUOTE(orthobiz @ Jul 17 2007, 07:03 PM) QUOTE(Johny Blackstain @ Jul 17 2007, 01:41 PM) f*ck it- I'm Italian. Like, Gianni Negromacula? Paul (IMG:style_emoticons/default/av-943.gif) I think it would be Giovanni but you got the Nergromacula right on! Schwartzenfleck, Manchanegra, Koho-ele-ele it's all the same. A nasty black stain that just won't go away (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) . |
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| Eric_Shea |
Jul 17 2007, 05:30 PM
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PMB Performance Group: Admin Posts: 19,278 Joined: 3-September 03 From: Salt Lake City, UT Member No.: 1,110 Region Association: Rocky Mountains  |
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| JohnM |
Jul 17 2007, 06:16 PM
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914 enduro driver Group: Members Posts: 179 Joined: 23-July 04 From: San Diego Member No.: 2,387 |
Kelly- "...sometimes you just have to give a jerk his dog crap back." See link. Hang in there, John
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r-DomnRg72Q |
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| jwalters |
Jul 17 2007, 06:21 PM
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Sooo Close....... Group: Members Posts: 1,677 Joined: 14-May 04 From: Huntsville, AL Member No.: 2,068 Region Association: Europe |
Well, hello there - (IMG:style_emoticons/default/type.gif)
I read you too have been bitten - I seem to attract a few from time to time as well. As far as the responding part, I have tried every possible response with absolutely no change in outcome - (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) First and foremost, well, I started a while back to just smile and be nice and ask questions.... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/drunk.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif) This was not always the case, and as Aaron and a few others might attest - well, umm, I could get ugly. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) - just it was a hair trigger self-defense move.... But, almost, and I must stress "almost" everytime I end up (IMG:style_emoticons/default/headbang.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/headbang.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/headbang.gif) I have experienced it all - even having someone I have never 'spoken' to, come out and say very, very nasty things to me - (IMG:style_emoticons/default/icon8.gif) Now, I can honestly say, especially living in South Florida - that those kinds of people, well, you will never - ever get away from (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) So in the interest of keeping peace and all, well, I just do this now - (IMG:style_emoticons/default/stirthepot.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/stirthepot.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/stirthepot.gif) So what if they are jerks - they were the jerk "FIRST" right??? So well then Happy, HAVE SOME FUN WITH IT........ (IMG:style_emoticons/default/av-943.gif) |
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| SLITS |
Jul 17 2007, 06:56 PM
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"This Utah shit is HARSH!" Group: Benefactors Posts: 13,602 Joined: 22-February 04 From: SoCal Mountains ... Member No.: 1,696 Region Association: None  |
I can't stand it ..... Oh the drama
(IMG:style_emoticons/default/chairfall.gif) more please (IMG:style_emoticons/default/popcorn[1].gif) |
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| DanT |
Jul 17 2007, 07:04 PM
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Going back to the Dark Side! Group: Members Posts: 4,300 Joined: 4-October 04 From: Auburn, CA Member No.: 2,880 Region Association: None |
QUOTE(JohnM @ Jul 17 2007, 05:16 PM) Kelly- "...sometimes you just have to give a jerk his dog crap back." See link. Hang in there, John http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r-DomnRg72Q that is tooooooo funny (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) |
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| Eric_Shea |
Jul 17 2007, 07:12 PM
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PMB Performance Group: Admin Posts: 19,278 Joined: 3-September 03 From: Salt Lake City, UT Member No.: 1,110 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
It is "kinda" funny but it reeks of a major corporation's ad agency attempt at "Viral". Hagar Slacks?
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| orthobiz |
Jul 17 2007, 07:58 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,754 Joined: 8-January 07 From: Cadillac, Michigan Member No.: 7,438 Region Association: Upper MidWest
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OK, my 4 cents.
The post originally really doesn't belong in the Originality and History forum. And Pat's reply is very similar to other posts he's made. He knows he's a stickler. He knows it can be unpopular but that's just him. The difference between posting here and writing to customer service or sending an e-mail is that the forum is moderated. Pat also is involved at 914club and at 914purist. He has answered numerous PM's I've sent him with questions about my car. And he does it for free. This place is like having a family. Hey, maybe it's like being married, like every day is a good day but SOME days are better than others! But you just hang in there, let it roll off your back, post in a different forum. But I for one will not be like the people who write letters to the editor, canceling their subscriptions because of on article they read and didn't like. So I'm here to stay. I think the post could have been simply moved to the regular forum, but that's just me. I think Pat tried to handle it as diplomatically as he normally does but I don't think he was flaming, he wasn't way out of line, and most importantly, I don't think he behaved out of character. Finally, I don't think it's appropriate to call another member a jerk. It starts to sound like another one of those "AA horror story" posts where everyone can chime in and take sides and agree that someone is or isn't an a*hole. Like being family, let's move on. It is a pretty car and like you said, no where near original! Let's hear more about your wins in the Garage or even in the Show Us Your Car section. Paul |
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| ConeDodger |
Jul 17 2007, 08:24 PM
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Apex killer! Group: Members Posts: 23,612 Joined: 31-December 04 From: Tahoe Area Member No.: 3,380 Region Association: Northern California
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QUOTE(orthobiz @ Jul 17 2007, 06:58 PM) OK, my 4 cents. The post originally really doesn't belong in the Originality and History forum. And Pat's reply is very similar to other posts he's made. He knows he's a stickler. He knows it can be unpopular but that's just him. The difference between posting here and writing to customer service or sending an e-mail is that the forum is moderated. Pat also is involved at 914club and at 914purist. He has answered numerous PM's I've sent him with questions about my car. And he does it for free. This place is like having a family. Hey, maybe it's like being married, like every day is a good day but SOME days are better than others! But you just hang in there, let it roll off your back, post in a different forum. But I for one will not be like the people who write letters to the editor, canceling their subscriptions because of on article they read and didn't like. So I'm here to stay. I think the post could have been simply moved to the regular forum, but that's just me. I think Pat tried to handle it as diplomatically as he normally does but I don't think he was flaming, he wasn't way out of line, and most importantly, I don't think he behaved out of character. Finally, I don't think it's appropriate to call another member a jerk. It starts to sound like another one of those "AA horror story" posts where everyone can chime in and take sides and agree that someone is or isn't an a*hole. Like being family, let's move on. It is a pretty car and like you said, no where near original! Let's hear more about your wins in the Garage or even in the Show Us Your Car section. Paul Ok Paul... Now you have crossed a line. George IS an a*hole. Just ask him. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) |
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| URY914 |
Jul 17 2007, 08:36 PM
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I built the lightest 914 in the history of mankind. Group: Members Posts: 121,038 Joined: 3-February 03 From: Jacksonville, FL Member No.: 222 Region Association: None |
I see the tread is now unlocked but moved to the garage. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)
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| ConeDodger |
Jul 17 2007, 08:42 PM
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Apex killer! Group: Members Posts: 23,612 Joined: 31-December 04 From: Tahoe Area Member No.: 3,380 Region Association: Northern California
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QUOTE(URY914 @ Jul 17 2007, 07:36 PM) I see the tread is now unlocked but moved to the garage. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) That would have been the more appropriate response. Less caustic, easier to stomach by Kelly. Strange though that Mr. Garvey has not commented. |
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| Cap'n Krusty |
Jul 17 2007, 08:48 PM
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Cap'n Krusty Group: Members Posts: 10,794 Joined: 24-June 04 From: Santa Maria, CA Member No.: 2,246 Region Association: Central California |
QUOTE(Jasfsmith @ Jul 17 2007, 12:07 PM) QUOTE(Eric_Shea @ Jul 17 2007, 02:35 PM) QUOTE Gimme a path to follow to the same success! You need a path to success?? Paaaaaaaleeeeeeease (IMG:style_emoticons/default/av-943.gif) (folks, if you don't follow the forum... this be the guy who drove his awesome 914-6 across country to win in San Diego!!) Path to success... As I've said many times before. My car is a 5 footer. I work hard at distracting any judge that gets closer than 5 feet.... Those who have looked at it closer can attest to that. <grin> BTW, This year's "infamous" demerit was for having the fuel filter (a clear plastic one at that) in the engine compartment, and not a metal cylinder near the fuel pump. I'm still researching this one. FWIW, the "original" fuel filter on the 914/4 cars was a dark gray plastic, and mounted before the pump, under the car (70-74) or beneath the fuel tank (75-76). Anyone who says different is full of it. The early cars had it slid into a bracket (similar to the channel for the engine tin rubber) on the firewall, mid cars had a semi rectangular slip in bracket aft of the pump on the right suspension console. The plastic inlet fuel line on those cars was longer than that of the earlier cars, IIRC. The late cars let the filter hang loose in the compartment beneath the tank. No 914/4 ever had the filter in the engine compartment, and no 914/4 had a plastic fuel filter under pressure. As for the 914/6, the shop manual shows no provision for a fuel filter, just like a carburetted 911. The Cap'n |
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| URY914 |
Jul 17 2007, 08:54 PM
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I built the lightest 914 in the history of mankind. Group: Members Posts: 121,038 Joined: 3-February 03 From: Jacksonville, FL Member No.: 222 Region Association: None |
QUOTE(ConeDodger @ Jul 17 2007, 06:42 PM) QUOTE(URY914 @ Jul 17 2007, 07:36 PM) I see the tread is now unlocked but moved to the garage. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) That would have been the more appropriate response. Less caustic, easier to stomach by Kelly. Strange though that Mr. Garvey has not commented. I think we should all post pictures of our cars in Pat's forum just to piss him off. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/happy11.gif) |
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| jwalters |
Jul 17 2007, 08:56 PM
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Sooo Close....... Group: Members Posts: 1,677 Joined: 14-May 04 From: Huntsville, AL Member No.: 2,068 Region Association: Europe |
QUOTE(SLITS @ Jul 17 2007, 08:56 PM) I can't stand it ..... Oh the drama (IMG:style_emoticons/default/chairfall.gif) more please (IMG:style_emoticons/default/popcorn[1].gif) luuuuuuuuuuv THAT AVATAR! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smoke.gif) |
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| DanT |
Jul 17 2007, 08:57 PM
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Going back to the Dark Side! Group: Members Posts: 4,300 Joined: 4-October 04 From: Auburn, CA Member No.: 2,880 Region Association: None |
QUOTE(URY914 @ Jul 17 2007, 07:54 PM) QUOTE(ConeDodger @ Jul 17 2007, 06:42 PM) QUOTE(URY914 @ Jul 17 2007, 07:36 PM) I see the tread is now unlocked but moved to the garage. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) That would have been the more appropriate response. Less caustic, easier to stomach by Kelly. Strange though that Mr. Garvey has not commented. I think we should all post pictures of our cars in Pat's forum just to piss him off. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/happy11.gif) so if I get California Historic Vehicle plates for my car I can then post pics of it in "his" furum (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) my car is orignal also....just the way I built it. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Attached image(s) 
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| drew365 |
Jul 17 2007, 09:08 PM
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These are the good old days! Group: Members Posts: 2,004 Joined: 29-December 02 From: Sunny So. Cal. Member No.: 37 |
QUOTE(URY914 @ Jul 17 2007, 07:54 PM) QUOTE(ConeDodger @ Jul 17 2007, 06:42 PM) QUOTE(URY914 @ Jul 17 2007, 07:36 PM) I see the tread is now unlocked but moved to the garage. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) That would have been the more appropriate response. Less caustic, easier to stomach by Kelly. Strange though that Mr. Garvey has not commented. I think we should all post pictures of our cars in Pat's forum just to piss him off. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/happy11.gif) Good idea Paul. He might be able to help us get our cars back to original condition! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) |
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| MoveQik |
Jul 17 2007, 09:19 PM
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What size wheels can I fit? Group: Members Posts: 4,645 Joined: 5-April 05 From: Scottsdale, AZ Member No.: 3,881 Region Association: Southwest Region |
QUOTE(URY914 @ Jul 17 2007, 07:54 PM) I think we should all post pictures of our cars in Pat's forum just to piss him off. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/happy11.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/av-943.gif) |
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| carreraguy |
Jul 17 2007, 09:28 PM
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It's not your dad's 914! Group: Members Posts: 1,197 Joined: 17-October 03 From: San Jose, CA Member No.: 1,256 Region Association: Northern California |
I remember the good ol' days when I had a "traditional" concours-level car and it really bugged me when I was referred to as a "CW" on this forum (in its previous incarnation). Pat's tone and attitude do nothing to encourage 914 owners to enter a PCA concours and that's the shame of it all; now I understand better how some concours folk have come to deserve the CW moniker.
The irony of it all is that when 914's do show up at PCA events, they draw a lot of attention and praise. When I saw Scott's beautiful '73 at WCR07 (People's Choice there for Best 914/4), I encouraged him to participate in a regional PCA concours event - well, this past Sunday he entered his first concours and took first place in the "Full" division - not too shabby! Later, |
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