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> 914 values dropping?, (or is it just me...)
orthobiz
post Jul 30 2007, 08:59 PM
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I don't think prices are dropping. I look at the cars on AA that were sold a year or two ago and wish I could buy them now!

I'm REALLY happy with my orange beauty. Cost 14K and I put 9K into fixing it up. So, am I crazy for 23K into a 1.8 1974? I don't think so (or at least I can't admit it to myself) because I feel like I have a new car!

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post Jul 30 2007, 09:10 PM
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QUOTE(smj @ Jul 30 2007, 07:44 PM) *

eric914 wrote:
If you work from home, why not consider moving to North Hampton MA. Really nice town in a 5 college area. Plenty of free thinking going on and very nice scenery too.
While I agree that Northampton is a great little town, it's a small town. San Francisco is a major metropolitan area -- the two are hardly comparable. Doesn't mean part of me doesn't wish I still lived in NoHo from time to time, or elsewhere in the Happy Valley (Pioneer Valley / Connecticut River Valley).

Regarding the $20k '71 914-4, I'm curious how you get a full concours winner with the wrong, non-original motor in it (2.0l TIV in a '71?), a Nardi wheel and an Optima battery...



I suspect that it would score well in the performance class in Parade.

I agree that it will be interesting to see if it stays sold, or if we see it relisted in the future.

Very nice car either way. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/drooley.gif)

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post Jul 30 2007, 09:22 PM
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I bought my first 3 years ago for $4150. 1976 2.0L with 33K miles on it after it had sat in a garage for 21 years. I have put $5000 and 30K into it and I would be lucky to get $6000 for it.
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post Jul 30 2007, 09:51 PM
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The '71 ebay wonder in question belongs to a personal friend of mine. Although he does not frequent this "world", he assembled one of the nicest well balanced 914's in the New England area. With the exception of the body work and paint, he did this all by himself. I was there when he acquired it several years ago from the original owner. I assisted him in certain areas of disassembly and assembly. It had the usual hell hole and jack support issues, but it was a prime candidate to save in these parts. A year later he picked up a rusty '76 complete and never restored. Perfect interior and low mileage on the mechanicals. I convinced him to change out the '71 1.7 with the '76 2.0 running gear and interior. He added a lot of personal touches as you can see in the pictures. After working out the bugs last year, this car ran like new. It is a gem.
This past May he scored a 1st in the Zone 1 Newport event. Very high score. Top 914. Originality does not factor into this car. It is well presented, balanced and sorted.
I'm glad he got what he was asking for. He is a bit down today as he has to give
up his pride and joy. Couldn't keep it for reasons I will not explain here.
So what is the message here? Are the quality 914's going to command premium prices even if they aren't pure and original? I can tell you this. If this car had the original numbers matching 1.7 with tail shifter and original interior, he would be lucky to have taken half of the $19.5k.
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post Jul 30 2007, 10:35 PM
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The 19.5K owner still didn't make any money on that car...

VERY nicely done, but the 8 million hours involved make it a $$$ losing proposition.

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post Jul 30 2007, 10:57 PM
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I watch 914 adds for sale daily primarily in California.

Prices always seem to go down a bit at the beginning of summer. And spike as summer comes to a close.

It has been this way for years. It is the standard trend.

The only exception are 914/6s and dam near perfect 4s. Those prices just keep going up and up.

Parts cars are at the lowest price we will see for this year. At least for a couple of months more anyway.

It has been like this for years. Same trend... Just a different year.

NOTE: NorCal is still the cheapest place to buy a parts car or daily driver that needs a bit (or a lot) of work. PERIOD. If I owned a 914 parts house. That is where I would buy my cars.


Sacramento and Central Cali is second best. Then Sandiego, Inland Empire, LA county then the Big OC in that order.

Thats how I see it anyway.

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post Jul 31 2007, 01:01 AM
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QUOTE(sixerdon @ Jul 30 2007, 07:51 PM) *

The '71 ebay wonder in question belongs to a personal friend of mine. Although he does not frequent this "world", he assembled one of the nicest well balanced 914's in the New England area. With the exception of the body work and paint, he did this all by himself. ...
Don, hope you don't think I was trying to take anything away from what your friend accomplished as that was certainly not my intent. I have no doubt the cleanliness of his car would put my kitchen to shame... Shoot, maybe I know him from my seven years running with NER/CVR/NNJ/MNY/NCR PCA and the rest of the Zone 1 circus.

I have the usual outsiders view of concours -- maniacal judges crawling under a car checking for the right colored paint daubs for that month of manufacture lined up correctly on bolts/nuts, taking off points if the original foil engine bay emblems have shifted and left a small smear of glue exposed. This is what prompted the question about winning concours, I assumed that "full concours" included a large measure of originality. But hey, that's what I get for assuming... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif)

Sorry your pal had to give up the car. Here's hoping things turn for the better, and he can build an even better one next time.
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post Jul 31 2007, 12:00 PM
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QUOTE(gfulcher @ Jul 30 2007, 11:21 AM) *

The decision to move to San Francisco is multi-fold as well.. Living in a fun, open-minded city where having a car isn't necessary is attractive to us both. -greg


Greg,

I'm a native 3rd Generation San Franciscan and I have a VERY CLOSED MIND!

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post Jul 31 2007, 12:46 PM
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No the prices are actually increasing. I have sold moe 914s this year than in the past two years combined. Not all of them show up on the CAMP 914 website because some don't even reach CAMP. They are sold before I get them.
I have sold 4 cylinder 914s for $18k and 6 cylinder 914s for $40K and 27K.
Restoration shops are busy getting 6 cylinder 914s back to prime condition. People feel the 914 is going to the next 356 or early 911.
But there is definetly a lot of not-premium 914s for sale that sellers are seeking a premium price for. ALA ebay and craigslist, world and club sites are overflowing with them.
Good cars will bring the right money, bad cars will languish.
Here is an example of a good 914.
http://www.sportscarmarket.com/profiles/20...rman/index.html


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post Jul 31 2007, 01:01 PM
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a very clean '74 2.0L just sold for $13K here on the east coast and was sent back west....right car w/ the right buyer.
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post Jul 31 2007, 07:48 PM
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QUOTE(Brian Mifsud @ Jul 31 2007, 02:00 PM) *

Greg,

I'm a native 3rd Generation San Franciscan and I have a VERY CLOSED MIND!


Ahhhhhh.... So you're the one!

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