Windshield Washer question, anyone replace with aftermarket? |
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Windshield Washer question, anyone replace with aftermarket? |
stephenaki |
Feb 25 2008, 02:49 AM
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Can I get this one dad?? Group: Members Posts: 1,183 Joined: 11-August 07 From: Palmetto, FL Member No.: 7,987 Region Association: None |
OK, my understanding is that the washer system uses air from the tires to shoot the water solution onto the windshield. AA sells an electric replacement for $200 some odd.
Has anyone used a straight aftermarket system vice the AA system? Does anyone see an issue with say pulling a system off of another car and wiring it in to a 914? Looking for options. I am sure the AA system is top notch but i'm a a cheap Chinaman and just need it to function for the next couple of years until I can get it back to the states and REALLY work on it. |
Dr. Roger |
Feb 25 2008, 03:39 AM
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A bat out of hell. Group: Members Posts: 3,944 Joined: 31-January 05 From: Hercules, California Member No.: 3,533 Region Association: Northern California |
If you are a true CSOB try the local auto dismantler. They've got tons of sprayer pumps. The thing is that the water tank for a 914 requires air pressure to pump the water to the sprayer nozzles. You will have to use a modern tank/pump system attached to the 914 nozzles. Should be a breeze.
I'm currently running a Jeep Cherokee fuse panel in my 914. =) Good luck. |
iamchappy |
Feb 25 2008, 07:31 AM
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It all happens so fast! Group: Members Posts: 4,893 Joined: 5-November 03 From: minnetonka, mn Member No.: 1,315 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
Just replace air system with a cheap universal washer pump or spend 40 bucks on a Bosch one.
Heres how to do it, works great! http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=13261 |
stephenaki |
Feb 25 2008, 08:20 AM
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Can I get this one dad?? Group: Members Posts: 1,183 Joined: 11-August 07 From: Palmetto, FL Member No.: 7,987 Region Association: None |
Just replace air system with a cheap universal washer pump or spend 40 bucks on a Bosch one. Heres how to do it, works great! http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=13261 Cool, thanks will definately do this. |
davep |
Feb 25 2008, 09:21 AM
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914 Historian Group: Benefactors Posts: 5,214 Joined: 13-October 03 From: Burford, ON, N0E 1A0 Member No.: 1,244 Region Association: Canada |
I developed an electric switch mount to replace the valve on the washer stalk. About all that is required is an electric pump as Andy's article shows (VW rabbit pump) and some wiring. I have not yet had the opportunity to sort out the wiring required.(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads/post-1244-1173064983.jpg)
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jesiv |
Feb 25 2008, 08:00 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 552 Joined: 5-August 07 From: Pensacola/Milton, Florida Member No.: 7,975 Region Association: Northern California |
That is really cool. So how did you make the switch?
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John |
Feb 25 2008, 08:50 PM
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member? what's a member? Group: Members Posts: 3,393 Joined: 30-January 04 From: Evansville, IN (SIRPCA) Member No.: 1,615 Region Association: None |
Cool switch. I did a similar thing 20 years ago. I used an old door contact switch trimmed down to fit inside the steering column. It's been working well for over 20 years now. I read the article in an old Panorama from 20+ years ago. Sorry I can't find the issue as my dad took all his Panos when he moved away. It may be in an UpFixn' though..... I believe this was either the first or second mod I ever did to my 914. This was either before or after the fog light flash mod. |
biosurfer1 |
Feb 25 2008, 10:26 PM
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Teener fo Life! Group: Members Posts: 3,020 Joined: 3-August 03 From: Roseville, CA Member No.: 977 Region Association: Northern California |
I just realized yesterday that the PO put an aftermarket unit in mine. I have a random toggle switch on my dash that I didn't know what it did because the only time I ever tried it, the resvoir was empty and the electric pump was too quiet to hear over the engine. Finally traced out the wires the other day and low and behold...
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stephenaki |
Feb 26 2008, 12:55 AM
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Can I get this one dad?? Group: Members Posts: 1,183 Joined: 11-August 07 From: Palmetto, FL Member No.: 7,987 Region Association: None |
Nice switch, I did some research with JC Whitney and other sources and found some aftermarket systems that would work. I don't think I will get one right away as I plan on talking to a local resource here in Stuttgart.
Found a guy named Dunkel that basically has 30+ years working on Porsches, all of them, and is also Porsche certified. He can get parts so I will hit him up today to check prices. Have to balance the Euro against the USD + shipping and then figure out how quickly I need the part. Will do up a detailed article on the method and installation with plenty of pictures when I do it. I am a visual guy, I can read the stuff in a book but I catch on much faster if I am either doing it or see actual pictures. I think the Army calls me a SLUG, Slow Learner Under Guidance (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) And to think, they commissioned me! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/av-943.gif) |
davep |
Feb 26 2008, 06:51 AM
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914 Historian Group: Benefactors Posts: 5,214 Joined: 13-October 03 From: Burford, ON, N0E 1A0 Member No.: 1,244 Region Association: Canada |
My switch mount was designed in SolidWorks and printed in ABS on a rapid prototyping machine. The switch should have enough current capacity to directly run a pump. Run some wires, get a Rabbit pump, and do a modification of the tank, and never have to worry about fluid spurting out of the steering column. The switch is designed to be a true bolt-in replacement for the valve. I have a few available.
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stephenaki |
Feb 26 2008, 07:24 AM
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Can I get this one dad?? Group: Members Posts: 1,183 Joined: 11-August 07 From: Palmetto, FL Member No.: 7,987 Region Association: None |
My switch mount was designed in SolidWorks and printed in ABS on a rapid prototyping machine. The switch should have enough current capacity to directly run a pump. Run some wires, get a Rabbit pump, and do a modification of the tank, and never have to worry about fluid spurting out of the steering column. The switch is designed to be a true bolt-in replacement for the valve. I have a few available. OK, Edumicate me. The wiper switch on the column can not be used to run an aftermarket system? I saw the comment about water squirting out of the steering column and have read through the set up and external switch. Is the column lever not an electrical connection that activates the stock system? Trying to understand the set up as I like simplicity and would prefer to keep the activation of the washer tied to the column switch. |
iamchappy |
Feb 26 2008, 07:41 AM
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It all happens so fast! Group: Members Posts: 4,893 Joined: 5-November 03 From: minnetonka, mn Member No.: 1,315 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
All i had to do was tap into the brown black wire that runs out of the column and purchased a 15 dollar universal washer pump, drilled a hole in the cap of the washer bottle. Pull back on the lever....Works great!
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davep |
Feb 26 2008, 07:53 AM
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914 Historian Group: Benefactors Posts: 5,214 Joined: 13-October 03 From: Burford, ON, N0E 1A0 Member No.: 1,244 Region Association: Canada |
The wiper/washer lever is multifunction. The lever is moved up and down to select the wiper speed. With a suitable modification later cars can have an intermittent wiper function also; this requires a relay, a harness to connect the relay to the main harness, at least a 1973 model (perhaps 1974) with the necessary wiring in the main harness, and a wiper switch with the additional electrical portion.
The 914/4 washer portion uses the spare tire as a pressurized air reservoir to force washer fluid from the washer tank, through a fluid valve in the column, and out to the washer jets; essentially a pneumatic system. On the 914/6 this is a pump based system with an electrical switch; however the whole steering column, dash, and washer tank are different except for 1972 model 914/6's. |
stephenaki |
Feb 26 2008, 07:55 AM
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Can I get this one dad?? Group: Members Posts: 1,183 Joined: 11-August 07 From: Palmetto, FL Member No.: 7,987 Region Association: None |
All i had to do was tap into the brown black wire that runs out of the column and purchased a 15 dollar universal washer pump, drilled a hole in the cap of the washer bottle. Pull back on the lever....Works great! Viele Dank. I will be hitting up a local parts store this week to see if I can find a universal system vice ordering one. |
GWN7 |
Feb 26 2008, 08:26 PM
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King of Road Trips Group: Members Posts: 6,280 Joined: 31-December 02 From: Winnipeg, MB, Canada Member No.: 56 Region Association: Northstar Region |
Princess Auto (local Harbour Freight type place) had kits on sale a few months ago. PM me your address and I'll send you one.
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swl |
Feb 27 2008, 05:30 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,409 Joined: 7-August 05 From: Kingston,On,Canada Member No.: 4,550 Region Association: Canada |
My switch mount was designed in SolidWorks and printed in ABS on a rapid prototyping machine. Damn Dave - I'm impresssed! This raises you to the level of uber geek (IMG:style_emoticons/default/pray.gif) Where did you get acces to a rapid prototyping machine - or have these become common? |
davep |
Feb 27 2008, 06:11 PM
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914 Historian Group: Benefactors Posts: 5,214 Joined: 13-October 03 From: Burford, ON, N0E 1A0 Member No.: 1,244 Region Association: Canada |
Those tools are an essential part of my present job.
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alpha434 |
Feb 27 2008, 06:18 PM
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My member number is no coincidence. Group: Members Posts: 3,154 Joined: 16-December 05 From: Denver, CO Member No.: 5,280 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
Lol.
I forwent the washer for a water sprayer for the engine. But I used a transistor off of the stock relay and ran the water pump straight to the battery with a fuse between. Works good. |
rascobo |
Mar 5 2008, 03:31 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 203 Joined: 26-July 07 From: Portland,OR. Member No.: 7,948 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
I'm always amazed how obsessed and twisted minds work alike. five or six years ago I replaced the 'air switch in my column with an electric one, because I no longer carry a spare , (having given over the space to a radiator)and thought it was unique. I simply removed the air switch from its' plastic mount and replaced it with a small generic alarm override momentary switch inserted in it's place. very simple and quick. and works great. I too drilled a hole in the reservoir cap to break the vacuum. I think the pump new hose and fittings cost less than $20.00 I've since converted the reservoir to a coolant overflow tank and am looking for the right* container for washer fluid.
(*) perfect fit, function, and cool quotient. 73' 4.3L GT |
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