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post Jan 22 2004, 07:50 PM
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Is a pointless ignition a good idea for a fuel injected car? Does it make a difference that it's fuel injected? Or does it throw off all of the variables? I'm uneducated.

Sorry if this has come up in otrher threads.

I hear this is the way to go.

Is there a specific brand/type that you all recomend.
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post Jan 22 2004, 07:57 PM
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pertronix is the way to go!

just got mine.
kissed my points good bye ... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/fighting19.gif)

clean and easy install, no wear anymore, no timing changes.
set it once and forget about it. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smilie_pokal.gif)

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post Jan 22 2004, 08:00 PM
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Thanks Andy! That's my next purchase. Do I need a different coil, distributer cap, etc? or is it all one unit?
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post Jan 22 2004, 08:10 PM
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QUOTE(level914 @ Jan 22 2004, 06:00 PM)
Thanks Andy!  That's my next purchase.  Do I need a different coil, distributer cap, etc? or is it all one unit?

nope, just the pertonix ...

you keep the stock cap and rotor and coil.

you trash the points and the condensor.

and here's a few helpful hints for installing (thank you Rich! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/pray.gif) )

1) throw away the spacer that comes with it
2) the (included) mounting plate (where the actual unit mounts to) needs just a little bit of grinding on one corner, otherwise it won't sit flush. the plate has a rounded edge looking like this ( where you need to file off a bit of material on the lower edge. you'll know when you see it.
3) use a little bit of locktite (sp?) on the mounting screw. don't overtighten the screw!
4) same for the 2 nuts that hold down the actual unit. don't overtighten!
5) put the magnet over the shaft
6) fiddle the wires through the whole where you removed the condesor wire. the flat rubber piece seals against the dist. housing from the inside, the round rubber piece goes on the outside and is hold in place by reusing the condensor mounting bracket.
7) use plastic gauge to set the GAP
8) tighten the unit down
9) make SURE red wire goes to + coil and black wire goes to - coil, both wires have red connectors, otherwise it's toast.


took only ten minutes ...
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post Jan 22 2004, 08:13 PM
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How much was it?
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post Jan 22 2004, 08:20 PM
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How much was it?

around $90 ducks ...
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post Jan 22 2004, 08:40 PM
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Mallory! Mallory! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/clap56.gif)
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post Jan 22 2004, 08:43 PM
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Do it! Have one on my air-cooled dub (carbed) and one on my 914 (FI) and they work beautifully. If they only made pointless valve adjusting kit that was as simple...
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post Jan 22 2004, 08:55 PM
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I put a pertronix on my 72 driver (carbs - not FI) a few years ago - it cost about 60 bucks. Money very well spent! I was absolutely amazed at the improvement it made to my engine's smooth running and acceleration. Very easy to install. I just followed the instructions.
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post Jan 22 2004, 09:05 PM
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Where can you get the Pertonix unit? I'm looking on Pelican parts but I do not see it.

Any opions on which is better for FI '74 2.0 street car? Pertonix, Craine, etc.

If you are a dealer PM me and let me know.

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post Jan 22 2004, 09:15 PM
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Bought mine from Brad Mayeur in Peoria, IL. Another Brad that is great with 914s.
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post Jan 22 2004, 09:20 PM
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QUOTE(eldiosyeldiablo @ Jan 22 2004, 07:05 PM)
Any opions on which is better for FI '74 2.0 street car? Pertonix, Craine, etc.

I've used Compufire and Pertronix with equal success.
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post Jan 22 2004, 09:50 PM
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Mallory! Mallory!


Can't use a Mallory on a FI car.
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post Jan 22 2004, 10:10 PM
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QUOTE(eldiosyeldiablo @ Jan 22 2004, 07:05 PM)
Where can you get the Pertonix unit? I'm looking on Pelican parts but I do not see it.

got mine from Rich @ HPH, give him a call ...

http://www.highperformancehouse.com/
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post Jan 22 2004, 10:13 PM
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Remove the dizzy. It makes installation SO much easier.

By the way...that photo is BEFORE I shipped my dizzy of to Rich at HPH for rebuilding.


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post Jan 22 2004, 11:02 PM
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QUOTE(Rouser @ Jan 22 2004, 07:50 PM)
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Can't use a Mallory on a FI car.

Huh??!

I gotta hear this!
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post Jan 23 2004, 02:59 PM
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i've got the crane xr700. works great. definitely best to pull the dizzy -- give it a good cleaning while you're at it.

i believe i paid less than $100 at summitracing.com

i heard that the pertonix will sometimes fry if you leave the ignition on, but that may be an old problem that has been resolved.
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post Jan 23 2004, 03:06 PM
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I have had no personal experience. So take this as you will. My personal research has led me to believe
that the older pertronix were quite good but the company has been sold and the newer ones are of a
lesser quality. One of the big VW shops here recommended compufire. It only cost me $65.00 Cdn. I
will not know until spring if it was a good choice however
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post Jan 23 2004, 03:08 PM
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QUOTE(nebreitling @ Jan 23 2004, 12:59 PM)
i heard that the pertonix will sometimes fry if you leave the ignition on, but that may be an old problem that has been resolved.

nope, that's still the case. if you leave the ignition on without starting the car (for a extended period of time) it'll fry the pertronix ...

BUT, that's not a good idea anyways, regardless of your ignition system, (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
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post Jan 23 2004, 04:16 PM
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Mallory! Mallory!


Can't use a Mallory on a FI car.

Huh??!

I gotta hear this!


Maybe I wasn't clear ... you can't use a Mallory on a D-Jet-equipped FI engine (no internal FI trigger points).

I'm not sure about an L-Jet-equipped engine, though.
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