Certificates of Authenticity: How Accurate Are They? Options

[JackB]

The C of A for my 914/6 says my car had vinyl seats (they have corudroy inserts) and a rear fog light (I can find no evidence of one ever having been mounted). So, in general, can the C of A be relied upon to describe the car as it was delivered?

Jack.

[Gustl]

does it show the option codes?

as I've seen in the past, sometimes the option codes seems to be correct, but the guys at Porsche just mis-interpreted then (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

(IMG:style_emoticons/default/bye1.gif) Gustl

[Mr_Zambezi]

does it show the option codes?

as I've seen in the past, sometimes the option codes seems to be correct, but the guys at Porsche just mis-interpreted then (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

(IMG:style_emoticons/default/bye1.gif) Gustl

Ditto, that is what George H. (DR 914) relayed to me as well. As a result the certificates can be incorrect. You should know what your car came with from the production info on the site, as well as looking it up in a book, such as B. Johnson's restoration book. If your certificate doesn't jive with what these sources tell you, you may have a problemo! I hear Porsche knows of the problem and is working on it?

I just ordered mine and have my fingers crossed. Hope this helps somewhat.

[watsonrx13]

Jack, I've heard several stories of people ordering the COA and not getting the correct information. I also sent out for a COA for one of my cars and it came back with the correct description. So, I guess it's a crap-shoot. BTW, I've heard that if you aren't satisfied with the results, you should be able to contact them and work out the differences, without any extra cost.

-- Rob

[1970 Neun vierzehn]

Here....

http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=76235

[Pat Garvey]

My guess is that porsche still does not give a crap about the child fathered out of wedlock (914). My COA is nebulous at best, and repeated emails & calls to VM about it over 2 years have met with zero response.

Bet if i had a contemporary Porsche, it would different. A total waste of money! I don't think the people at PCNA care or know their ass from a hole in the ground. We're on our own!
Pat

ps: scuse me for the less-than-appropriate verabge - just tired of fighting it. Not really happy with the Porsche company these days - seem to have forgotten thier roots.

[carr914]

The CoA's would be more accurate if a grade school kid wrote one with a crayon. It doesn't matter if it is a 914 or 911. My 74 Carrera was so wrong, a blind midget could get it better. No offense to any blind midgets around here. Wait what would a blind midget do with a Porsche...there has to be a joke in here somewhere.

T.C.

[Rusty]

For our cars, the COA is a joke and a waste of money.

The lack of seriousness on this issue is a direct reflection of how PCNA & PCA feels about 914 and their owners... until they want our $$$.

[auerbach]

My COA came in saying that I had a 912 with tinted glass. I don't think so!

[JackB]

Thanks, everybody. I've owned many early 911s and 356s and never had a COA that didn't look right. I guess this isn't true for the 914/6. The tipoff for me was the rear fog light. I mean, how many US cars could have been delivered with these? I think I'll quit worrying about it and just enjoy the car.

Thanks again!

Jack

[smg914]

Thanks, everybody. I've owned many early 911s and 356s and never had a COA that didn't look right. I guess this isn't true for the 914/6. The tipoff for me was the rear fog light. I mean, how many US cars could have been delivered with these? I think I'll quit worrying about it and just enjoy the car.

Thanks again!

Jack

Last year I did some research on why there were so many errors on 914-6 COA's. I discovered that when they were looking up the options they were using the Option Code List for Porsche 944/951/968 cars. They didn't realize there was a difference. Many of the option code numbers for the 944/951/968 cars are the same as the option code numbers for the 914-6. The only problem is that the actual options are different. That is why you will see High Output Air Conditioning (option code 570) on many 914-6 COA's. Option code 570 for a 914-6 should be a Center Seat Cushion. Option Code 571 on a 944 is a Fog Tail Light. On the 914-6 571 is Front Fog Lights.

[Gustl]

On the 914-6 571 is Front Fog Lights.

Steve, M571 is definitly the rear fog light on the 914 & 914-6
I have the price list (german) where it says so - currently I'm in a hurry so I can't post it now - maybe after I'm back home from the office

(IMG:style_emoticons/default/bye1.gif) Gustl

[smg914]

On the 914-6 571 is Front Fog Lights.

Steve, M571 is definitly the rear fog light on the 914 & 914-6
I have the price list (german) where it says so - currently I'm in a hurry so I can't post it now - maybe after I'm back home from the office

(IMG:style_emoticons/default/bye1.gif) Gustl

Hmmm maybe your right. When I saw 571 "Fog Lights" for the 914-6, I assumed that was referring to the ones in the front bumper.

[Gustl]

here we go

this is a partial scan of W41-010-0371-0108 (price list for optional equipment, 914 & 914-6, 911 T/E/S, valid from March 1, 1971)

571 ... Nebelschlußleuchte (nicht mit US-Ausstattung)
translation:
571 ... rear fog light (not with US equipment)

[JackB]

here we go

this is a partial scan of W41-010-0371-0108 (price list for optional equipment, 914 & 914-6, 911 T/E/S, valid from March 1, 1971)

571 ... Nebelschlußleuchte (nicht mit US-Ausstattung)
translation:
571 ... rear fog light (not with US equipment)

So, the rear fog light was not even available on a US spec car. That makes my COA incorrect. PCNA owes me a refund!

Jack