 Do you have to pull the engine to change the clutch?, I need to do a clutch change and had some questions... |
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| Cire |
 May 9 2009, 10:58 AM
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Member  Group: Members Posts: 279 Joined: 12-March 09 From: Tucson, Arizona Member No.: 10,155 Region Association: None  |
QUOTE(Porsche Rescue @ May 9 2009, 09:53 AM)  Pushed it farther in while trying to get it out. Is that pushed in? Thats the way it was when I opened it up. Look at the big gap between the shaft and the seal... Is that correct? But thats where its been... It hasnt been pushed in. = ) Or at least by me. Whats one supposed to look like? Scary to push it in if its meant to come out... Eric |
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| Porsche Rescue |
May 9 2009, 11:28 AM
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Saving and Enjoying Old Porsches Group: Members Posts: 2,978 Joined: 31-December 02 From: Bend, Oregon Member No.: 64 Region Association: None |
I agree that it was "scary". I had managed to get it so far back in that I would never get it out without disassembling the trans. Looks like your seal is already a bit farther in than normal, but I don't think it matters much. I think you just seat the new seal flush with the edge of the case.
As to the clearance between the seal and the shaft, the sealing surface is on the inner edge of the seal so some space on the outer edge is normal. Yours does look larger than I recall however. Others who have responded on this thread know more than I do. The Cap'n will probably get real "crusty" when he reads the "drive it in" solution! |
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| SirAndy |
May 9 2009, 11:49 AM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,679 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
Ever heard of a "seal puller"?
And yes, a lose pivot ball will leak oil. Get a new flywheel as yours is on it's last leg anyways ... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/popcorn[1].gif) Andy |
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| So.Cal.914 |
May 9 2009, 12:09 PM
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"...And it has a front trunk too." Group: Members Posts: 6,588 Joined: 15-February 04 From: Low Desert, CA./ Hills of N.J. Member No.: 1,658 Region Association: None |
QUOTE(SirAndy @ May 9 2009, 10:49 AM) Ever heard of a "seal puller"? And yes, a lose pivot ball will leak oil. Get a new flywheel as yours is on it's last leg anyways ... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/popcorn[1].gif) Andy Order a new pilot bearing too. |
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| Cire |
May 9 2009, 04:29 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 279 Joined: 12-March 09 From: Tucson, Arizona Member No.: 10,155 Region Association: None |
QUOTE(So.Cal.914 @ May 9 2009, 11:09 AM) QUOTE(SirAndy @ May 9 2009, 10:49 AM) Ever heard of a "seal puller"? And yes, a lose pivot ball will leak oil. Get a new flywheel as yours is on it's last leg anyways ... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/popcorn[1].gif) Andy Order a new pilot bearing too. Where is the pilot bearing? Eric |
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| Cire |
May 9 2009, 04:31 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 279 Joined: 12-March 09 From: Tucson, Arizona Member No.: 10,155 Region Association: None |
QUOTE(SirAndy @ May 9 2009, 10:49 AM) [u]Ever heard of a "seal puller[/u[/color]]"? = ) Is there a particular brand or will the one at the local pep boys work? Eric |
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| Porsche Rescue |
May 9 2009, 05:02 PM
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Saving and Enjoying Old Porsches Group: Members Posts: 2,978 Joined: 31-December 02 From: Bend, Oregon Member No.: 64 Region Association: None |
Not sure about seal puller but local parts store should have something. May just be a tool with a hooked end to get behind the seal.
Pilot bearing is in the flywheel, shown here. I think there is a felt ring that goes with it as well.  |
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| So.Cal.914 |
May 9 2009, 05:55 PM
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"...And it has a front trunk too." Group: Members Posts: 6,588 Joined: 15-February 04 From: Low Desert, CA./ Hills of N.J. Member No.: 1,658 Region Association: None |
QUOTE(Cire @ May 9 2009, 03:29 PM) QUOTE(So.Cal.914 @ May 9 2009, 11:09 AM) QUOTE(SirAndy @ May 9 2009, 10:49 AM) Ever heard of a "seal puller"? And yes, a lose pivot ball will leak oil. Get a new flywheel as yours is on it's last leg anyways ... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/popcorn[1].gif) Andy Order a new pilot bearing too. Where is the pilot bearing? Eric In the pic above it is in the center of the flywheel. |
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| Cire |
May 9 2009, 06:26 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 279 Joined: 12-March 09 From: Tucson, Arizona Member No.: 10,155 Region Association: None |
Here is the tool that I bought... It really didnt work. Its to long to get in there. So if you are taking on the task of changing out the seal DO NOT BUY this one...
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| Cire |
May 9 2009, 06:28 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 279 Joined: 12-March 09 From: Tucson, Arizona Member No.: 10,155 Region Association: None |
Here is what the seal looked like after it came out. SHOOT ME TWICE!!! Its not all there. I have no idea where the rest of it is. It looks like its just rubber thats missing but it still doesnt sit well with me. Is this even the right seal? Wow. What a mess...
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| Cire |
May 9 2009, 06:32 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 279 Joined: 12-March 09 From: Tucson, Arizona Member No.: 10,155 Region Association: None |
And now the climax... No good deed goes unpunished??? Every idiot has his day??? Wow... I guess the only I can say is that I would NOT drill out the seal unless you know EXACTLY What you are doing. If you are off, if that head moves a bit, if the rubber bits and pushed the head of your drill against the edge... You are done. I didnt even know there was an edge past what I could see. Make sure you know what you are doing... If the tranny is out take it to your local porsche guy.. It would be worth the 10 bucks to have him pull it.
Can it be fixed? Do we pull a gun out and shoot me in the leg? #$%%^$%&^%^*^&(^&($#@#$@@!!!!!!    Wow.... Since I am not driving... can I drink? = / |
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| Cire |
May 9 2009, 06:33 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 279 Joined: 12-March 09 From: Tucson, Arizona Member No.: 10,155 Region Association: None |
Last of the great drilling work....
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| Cire |
May 9 2009, 06:35 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 279 Joined: 12-March 09 From: Tucson, Arizona Member No.: 10,155 Region Association: None |
Last one...
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| So.Cal.914 |
May 9 2009, 07:19 PM
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"...And it has a front trunk too." Group: Members Posts: 6,588 Joined: 15-February 04 From: Low Desert, CA./ Hills of N.J. Member No.: 1,658 Region Association: None |
Sudjestion? JB weld, keep it as close to the original machine work as possible. Then clean it up with fine (400-600 grit) sand paper. Its worth a try, I have fixed M/C cases with the stuff.
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May 9 2009, 09:05 PM
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Saving and Enjoying Old Porsches Group: Members Posts: 2,978 Joined: 31-December 02 From: Bend, Oregon Member No.: 64 Region Association: None |
It looks as though you could drive the new seal in until it is almost past the "slot". As long as the outside of the seal gets at least 1/2 on the smooth bore it should seal OK. Do some measuring first so you don't go to far and lose the seal.
If you try to fill with epoxy/JB Weld be sure it is sanded/filed so that it is even or below the surrounding surface. If you leave it to high you will have a leak for sure. |
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