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> Fuel Tank Crud? Redoing Fuel Lines, Etc.
neil30076
post Aug 25 2009, 08:26 PM
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QUOTE(kenshapiro2002 @ Aug 25 2009, 07:21 PM) *

Didn't see the plug fire (didn't even look). Sorry...didn't think your instructions asked for that...I'll check tomorrow. The coil to dizzy wire is brand new. Tried the old one today and it made no difference.


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I live right outside of Baltimore, major US city, and I see Ray Lewis more often than I see other 914s. I know of one other that sites within a 20 mile radius. I probably see 2-3 a year (of course, I've been seeing mine every 15 minutes).


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I hear you Neil. On the West coast thats true. In the past 10 years of living in Wi I've only seen one teener. Local guys by me are 100 miles away.


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2. Pulled the wires from the (-), coil side of the coil and it shows 12v.
3. Attached a wire to the same terminal, flashed it to the engine and it sparked.
4. Put an old plug on the dizzy end of the coil-to-dizzy wire and laid it on the engine.
The wire used above still sparked when touched to the engine.

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but if you did #4, did the spark plug fire ? i'm stil thinking jmill is correct, bad coil to dizzy wire!!!


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post Aug 25 2009, 09:18 PM
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One more shot in the dark. When you had it choking and sputtering you could have fouled the plugs. I've never seen all 4 get fouled but stranger things can happen.
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post Aug 25 2009, 09:38 PM
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I'll check that out too. I once had both headlights go out on a Beetle 30 years ago. Logic said it had to be something in the circuit, but in fact, both went south at, or near, the same time (maybe I didn't notice when just one was out). Anyway, it was just two bulbs needing replacement.


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One more shot in the dark. When you had it choking and sputtering you could have fouled the plugs. I've never seen all 4 get fouled but stranger things can happen.
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post Aug 26 2009, 01:43 PM
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The plugs look beautiful (at least #2 did...too lazy to pull the other three when that one looked new). Off to get points, rotor, cap, condensor and a taco. Check back in later.

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One more shot in the dark. When you had it choking and sputtering you could have fouled the plugs. I've never seen all 4 get fouled but stranger things can happen.
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post Aug 26 2009, 03:23 PM
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Well, the rotor is shot, so that would explain it. My local VW "expert" shop was unable to figure out my dizzy cap / rotor situation, so I ran home, ran the numbers, and found out I have a Bosch "050" dizzy. The guy I've been dealing with there on parts had never heard of an "050" (seems they're not that unusual), so he gave me the wrong cap, rotor and condensor (points seem to be the same as an "09"...01/011), so he's ordering me the right parts now that I gave him the numbers off of Pelican Parts.

cap 9 231 081 413
Rotor 231 081 628

Let you know in a few. Then it's back to the carbs.

Hey, can a rotor do anything less than just fail? Can it deteriorate and have been causing some of the problems I assumed was fueling?



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The plugs look beautiful (at least #2 did...too lazy to pull the other three when that one looked new). Off to get points, rotor, cap, condensor and a taco. Check back in later.

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One more shot in the dark. When you had it choking and sputtering you could have fouled the plugs. I've never seen all 4 get fouled but stranger things can happen.
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post Aug 26 2009, 05:16 PM
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It wouldn't cause popping out of the carbs. Being too lean does that. It would skip firing a cylinder here and there before it went totally bad.
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post Aug 26 2009, 05:25 PM
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And the top plate on the carb not being bolted down would cause leanness, right? I'm expecting good things come Wednesday. Yeah...that's how long it will take Pelican to get my parts here. Seems an 050 (vs. an 009) causes the locals here to go , "What?". Then again, I've learned to have no expectations. There was zero resistance on the rotor.

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It wouldn't cause popping out of the carbs. Being too lean does that. It would skip firing a cylinder here and there before it went totally bad.
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post Aug 26 2009, 05:48 PM
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And the top plate on the carb not being bolted down would cause leanness, right? I'm expecting good things come Wednesday. Yeah...that's how long it will take Pelican to get my parts here. Seems an 050 (vs. an 009) causes the locals here to go , "What?". Then again, I've learned to have no expectations. There was zero resistance on the rotor.

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It wouldn't cause popping out of the carbs. Being too lean does that. It would skip firing a cylinder here and there before it went totally bad.


Hopefully these parts will solve your problem, just curious - what do you mean by - There was zero resistance on the rotor.
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post Aug 26 2009, 05:55 PM
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Set the old multi meter for ohms. Touch leads to center and end of rotor top. Got 5,000 on a new rotor, got 0 on the one that was in the car when it died.



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And the top plate on the carb not being bolted down would cause leanness, right? I'm expecting good things come Wednesday. Yeah...that's how long it will take Pelican to get my parts here. Seems an 050 (vs. an 009) causes the locals here to go , "What?". Then again, I've learned to have no expectations. There was zero resistance on the rotor.

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It wouldn't cause popping out of the carbs. Being too lean does that. It would skip firing a cylinder here and there before it went totally bad.


Hopefully these parts will solve your problem, just curious - what do you mean by - There was zero resistance on the rotor.
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post Aug 26 2009, 06:08 PM
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5,000 is good, 0 - as in open circuit, is not :-)
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post Aug 26 2009, 06:13 PM
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Should fire up next week. Then Ill see how the car is running with good fire, and get to work on the webers (assume they'll still need work...couldnt have all been the rotor). The I'll point her west on I-70 and meet you for lunch.


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5,000 is good, 0 - as in open circuit, is not :-)
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post Aug 26 2009, 06:19 PM
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Should fire up next week. Then Ill see how the car is running with good fire, and get to work on the webers (assume they'll still need work...couldnt have all been the rotor). The I'll point her west on I-70 and meet you for lunch.


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5,000 is good, 0 - as in open circuit, is not :-)


LOL ! You make it this far and it will be dinner at least!
FYI, the attached may help you if you need to adjust the mechanical linkage on the carbs, I do not recall if you have the hex cross bar linkage or not.
Attached File  Syncronizing_IDF_Webers.pdf ( 331.49k ) Number of downloads: 65
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post Aug 26 2009, 06:29 PM
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Somebody on here said this was a good linkage. It has zero slop or play in at.Attached Image


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Should fire up next week. Then Ill see how the car is running with good fire, and get to work on the webers (assume they'll still need work...couldnt have all been the rotor). The I'll point her west on I-70 and meet you for lunch.


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5,000 is good, 0 - as in open circuit, is not :-)


LOL ! You make it this far and it will be dinner at least!
FYI, the attached may help you if you need to adjust the mechanical linkage on the carbs, I do not recall if you have the hex cross bar linkage or not.
Attached File  Syncronizing_IDF_Webers.pdf ( 331.49k ) Number of downloads: 65
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post Aug 26 2009, 06:42 PM
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Somebody on here said this was a good linkage. It has zero slop or play in at.Attached Image


good linkage, my instructions don't really apply, ignore :-)
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post Aug 26 2009, 06:53 PM
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Do you know what brand or type it is?

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Somebody on here said this was a good linkage. It has zero slop or play in at.Attached Image


good linkage, my instructions don't really apply, ignore :-)
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post Aug 28 2009, 04:14 PM
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Talk to me Goose. Is it running?
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Talk to me Goose. Is it running?

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Had to order the rotor (and condenser, cap and points) from Pelican. Somehow 2-3 day Priority mail takes from Thursday to the predicted arrival date of this Wednesday. As soon as it arrives, I swear, I'll slap her back together and let ya'll know. I had planned on that anyway. You have no idea how much I appreciate your, and Neil's,constant interest, vigilance and instruction.


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Had to order the rotor (and condenser, cap and points) from Pelican. Somehow 2-3 day Priority mail takes from Thursday to the predicted arrival date of this Wednesday. As soon as it arrives, I swear, I'll slap her back together and let ya'll know. I had planned on that anyway. You have no idea how much I appreciate your, and Neil's,constant interest, vigilance and instruction.


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Talk to me Goose. Is it running?


I have to switch hats and work on my 928, then my Land Rover, so my 914 attention will go down as its the only car i drive that is ( touch wood) running perfectly right now.
My wifes car ( Range Rover) doesn't count, she won't let me near it as its still covered by factory warranty!
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The Pelican landed today (8/31). I'll get cracking tomorrow morning and let ya'll know something tomorrow night!
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