McMark
Sep 5 2012, 03:21 PM
I'm ordering a few CSP Bellcrank linkages and I figured I'd put it out as a group buy and offer a discount, as well as a package deal with the throttle cable bracket I make.
This is the best, easiest to use/install linkage available. I've used a ton of them and the build quality is outstanding and installation is dead-simple. I'm also including the throttle cable bracket that I designed specifically for this setup. That means this a complete setup for dual IDF users.
Original price for the linkage from CSP is $155 (at current exchange rates)
Original price for the throttle bracket is $35
Total retail is $190.
Group buy price: $165. Closes 12/18/2012
Order NowI will place the order with CSP on 12/18. The setups will ship from Germany to me, and then I'll reship to you. Expected shipping is the week of 1/10/2013.
Harpo
Sep 5 2012, 04:18 PM
Good afternoon Mark,
Will this fit Dells as well as Webbers?
Thanks
David
McMark
Sep 5 2012, 04:25 PM
Yup. Works for Dellorto DRLAs.
Kansas 914
Sep 5 2012, 04:44 PM
QUOTE(McMark @ Sep 5 2012, 03:21 PM)
Original price for the linkage from CSP is $155 (at current exchange rates)
Original price for the throttle bracket is $35
Total retail is $190.
Group buy price: $165. Closes 9/10/2012
Order NowI will place the order with CSP on 9/10. The setups will ship from Germany to me, and then I'll reship to you. Expected shipping is the week of 9/17/2012.
Mark,
I just placed an order via the website - nicely done and thanks a million. I can't wait to throw my hex bar in the trash!
'73-914kid
Sep 5 2012, 05:20 PM
Just out of curiosity, do these work with the tall CB intakes? I wasn't sure if the geometry would fit the tall manifolds, so I went with Chris Foley's, but have you ever used them with the taller manifolds successfully? I alsways see the CSP linkage on short manifolds, which raised the question.
ConeDodger
Sep 5 2012, 09:39 PM
Seriously good deal! This is what Mark put on my car and it works like a charm!
ottox914
Sep 6 2012, 06:26 AM
I have this set up on the 914T, tall manifolds, and TWM ITB's. Don't know if it is the manifolds, or the ITB's, but the rods were just a bit short. YMMV. Even with needing that little fix, I love the system.
ConeDodger
Sep 6 2012, 06:48 AM
QUOTE(ottox914 @ Sep 6 2012, 04:26 AM)
I have this set up on the 914T, tall manifolds, and TWM ITB's. Don't know if it is the manifolds, or the ITB's, but the rods were just a bit short. YMMV. Even with needing that little fix, I love the system.
Dave, the rods are probably made for narrower engines, perhaps Type 1? Mark had to get some all-thread and replace the rods on mine due to the fact that my engine is a stroker motor and has spacers moving the cylinders outboard. Still, this is the smoothest action linkage I have seen on a 914. I love it. Very cool that Mark is putting this together too because that custom piece he is including to guide the cable looks like it was original to the car... Original but custom - Original Customs!
SLKWrx
Sep 6 2012, 07:12 AM
Is the throttle bracket available on its own?
ConeDodger
Sep 6 2012, 07:37 AM
QUOTE(SLKWrx @ Sep 6 2012, 05:12 AM)
Is the throttle bracket available on its own?
Yes, $35 at Original Customs or PM McMark...
biosurfer1
Sep 6 2012, 08:03 AM
I have both of these on my car like Rob and took great pleasure in slowly and painfully dismantling my stupid hex bar POS which was then lovingly hurled into the trash.
Mark seems to think his bracket works better than my Home Depot galvanized angle brace solution...I still maintain that flex added character to mine:)
SLKWrx
Sep 6 2012, 09:47 AM
QUOTE(ConeDodger @ Sep 6 2012, 05:37 AM)
QUOTE(SLKWrx @ Sep 6 2012, 05:12 AM)
Is the throttle bracket available on its own?
Yes, $35 at Original Customs or PM McMark...
Great! Thanks.
ConeDodger
Sep 6 2012, 10:34 AM
QUOTE(biosurfer1 @ Sep 6 2012, 06:03 AM)
I have both of these on my car like Rob and took great pleasure in slowly and painfully dismantling my stupid hex bar POS which was then lovingly hurled into the trash.
Mark seems to think his bracket works better than my Home Depot galvanized angle brace solution...I still maintain that flex added character to mine:)
My hex bar dismantled itself once. All of a sudden on my way back from Mark's first drive from his shop in Napa it started running like shizit. I had it towed back to Mark's shop and Yopu came down to get me from Sacramento. Turned out the hex bar had self-destructed and had to be welded back together...
These things need to be trash-canned.
hcdmueller
Sep 6 2012, 12:05 PM
Any chance you will ship to an APO address? I would love to order this setup.
Chris
maf914
Sep 6 2012, 12:46 PM
Mark,
I placed an order with payment from your website. Thanks!
McMark
Sep 6 2012, 02:44 PM
QUOTE(hcdmueller @ Sep 6 2012, 11:05 AM)
Any chance you will ship to an APO address? I would love to order this setup.
Chris
Never done it, but I'm willing to learn.
aircooledtechguy
Sep 6 2012, 04:31 PM
This linkage is absolutely the BEST thing to happen to a pair of Webers or Dellortos. If you pay a mechanic to occasionally tune the carbs, this linkage extends the time between carb tunes due to linkage changes. IE: it will pay for itself in a couple years of use.
Don't think about it; just do it!!
billh1963
Sep 7 2012, 06:02 AM
Bought one!
Michelj13
Sep 7 2012, 08:30 AM
QUOTE(aircooledtechguy @ Sep 6 2012, 03:31 PM)
This linkage is absolutely the BEST thing to happen to a pair of Webers or Dellortos. If you pay a mechanic to occasionally tune the carbs, this linkage extends the time between carb tunes due to linkage changes. IE: it will pay for itself in a couple years of use.
Don't think about it; just do it!!
I do not have any experience with this type of linkage, but, it
has to be better than the hex bar type from CB, Weber, and one more can't remember the name that I DO have experience with. Especially when used in the 914 there always seems to be something in the way or something not right to achieve full throttle and even sync. Just my experience IIRC. If I ever need a dual linkage setup, this is the type I would get.
ww914
Sep 7 2012, 09:06 AM
Here is another photo of this setup. It is simple and reliable.
Click to view attachment
914werke
Sep 7 2012, 09:35 AM
hcdmueller
Sep 7 2012, 10:06 AM
QUOTE(McMark @ Sep 6 2012, 09:44 PM)
QUOTE(hcdmueller @ Sep 6 2012, 11:05 AM)
Any chance you will ship to an APO address? I would love to order this setup.
Chris
Never done it, but I'm willing to learn.
Shipping is through US Postal Service. You have to fill out a customs form. It is a military address in the US that delivers stuff to me in Germany. If that works let me know.
Thanks,
Chris
ConeDodger
Sep 7 2012, 10:15 AM
QUOTE(hcdmueller @ Sep 7 2012, 08:06 AM)
QUOTE(McMark @ Sep 6 2012, 09:44 PM)
QUOTE(hcdmueller @ Sep 6 2012, 11:05 AM)
Any chance you will ship to an APO address? I would love to order this setup.
Chris
Never done it, but I'm willing to learn.
Shipping is through US Postal Service. You have to fill out a customs form. It is a military address in the US that delivers stuff to me in Germany. If that works let me know.
Thanks,
Chris
He can do it!
You brought your car to Germany?
hcdmueller
Sep 7 2012, 10:17 AM
I had no choice. Who wouldn't take their 914 to Germany if they had the chance. Just wish my work schedule didn't suck so much. I don't get to drive it as much as I would like.
McMark
Sep 7 2012, 06:28 PM
Yeah, no prob.
hcdmueller
Sep 8 2012, 05:19 AM
Can I make the order without going through your store? I can paypal you directly. The store gives an error with my address.
bobhasissues
Sep 8 2012, 08:18 AM
I have the CSP and love it compared to hexbar.
I set mine up a bit different than the CSP instructions show with excellent results and a better fit. Was wondering if anyone else tried this:
Set the bell crank to pull forward from the driver side rather than from the passenger side. Mount throttle cable to driver side of case. Connect the passenger side rod to the (back) flywheel side of the bellcrank and the driver side to the front side of the crank. The end result is a better alignment of the push rods and a cleaner look.
biosurfer1
Sep 8 2012, 09:15 AM
Bob, this is how I have mine set up too...didn't even realize it was "wrong" until Mark told me. He also said there really isn't a wrong way to mount them...there is simply a working way and a non-working way. Pretty easy to figure out which is which:)
Harpo
Sep 8 2012, 10:06 AM
Good morning
Could you please post a photo?
Thanks
David
McMark
Sep 8 2012, 11:03 AM
There are a couple photos on the eStore. All my pics are at work.
no1uno
Sep 9 2012, 01:00 PM
just ordered one. Thanks!
euro911
Sep 9 2012, 01:39 PM
I purchased one back in February - Love it!
Click to view attachment... and they do make one specifically for Type-4s (CSP129941400) ... the mounting is different for Type-1s and -2s too.
JFJ914
Sep 10 2012, 09:53 AM
I'm in, you've been PayPal'd.
hcdmueller
Sep 10 2012, 11:02 AM
Can't wait to get mine.
RoadGlue
Sep 10 2012, 05:38 PM
Ordered mine! Mark, remind me to give you cash for the throttle cable bracket when we meet up.
Gearhead1432
Sep 10 2012, 11:15 PM
Bummer, I just tried to place an order and it gave me an error message. Can I use paypal directly?
Thanks,
-Rob
ConeDodger
Sep 10 2012, 11:49 PM
Here are a couple more pics... This is good quality throttle control in a world of junk.
Harpo
Sep 21 2012, 05:22 PM
Good afternoon Mark,
Could you give us an update?
Thanks
David
ConeDodger
Sep 22 2012, 03:33 PM
QUOTE(Harpo @ Sep 21 2012, 03:22 PM)
Good afternoon Mark,
Could you give us an update?
Thanks
David
Patience David, Mark is out of town until Wednesday next week. Original Customs is still open because Mark has employees, but he is out of town. Not sure how much internet time he will have.
Gint
Sep 23 2012, 09:37 AM
Even prices on 914 parts are going up. 4 years ago that linkage from CSP was $89.
That's a great product offer Mark. I may need a bracket.
euro911
Sep 23 2012, 01:12 PM
QUOTE(ConeDodger @ Sep 10 2012, 10:49 PM)
Here are a couple more pics... This is good quality throttle control in a world of junk.
What have you got plumbed into your intakes, Rob?
billh1963
Oct 23 2012, 07:20 AM
Any updates? Could really use the one I paid fone now that I am getting ready to put my dual Dells on an engine.
McMark
Oct 23 2012, 09:18 AM
I sent out an email to all the buyers. Only heard back from a few. CSP is updating the design to include a return spring (which is a great new benefit). I'll contact them again and get an updated timeline. If you need one ASAP, PM me and we'll figure something out.
billh1963
Oct 23 2012, 10:35 AM
QUOTE(McMark @ Oct 23 2012, 11:18 AM)
I sent out an email to all the buyers. Only heard back from a few. CSP is updating the design to include a return spring (which is a great new benefit). I'll contact them again and get an updated timeline. If you need one ASAP, PM me and we'll figure something out.
I can wait a couple more weeks. Just got my powder coated engine tin back and over the next few weeks will be reassembling.
McMark
Oct 23 2012, 01:21 PM
I'll post as soon as I hear back from Gunter.
McMark
Oct 26 2012, 10:30 AM
Just got word that production on these will happen in Mid-Nov with the new design. If this doesn't work for anyone, just PM me and we'll see about getting you an old-style linkage.
billh1963
Oct 26 2012, 11:08 AM
I can wait...awesome news!
aharder
Oct 26 2012, 12:24 PM
Time is on my side
so I can kick back have a few
and wait
SLKWrx
Oct 26 2012, 01:22 PM
Mark,
Does the delay include the cable holder? I emailed a few days ago about the one I purchased and haven't heard anything back.
McMark
Nov 29 2012, 11:31 AM
Just got this update from CSP. Anyone else who's thinking of jumping on this group buy can still get in.
QUOTE
Hi Mark,
some components are still missing and production is scheduled for mid of December.
Gunter is on Holiday and will be back next week.
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