What I don't Understand is that I have always been told from the Purist is that the Chalon's kits on a 914 are and you have a piece of shit because it NOT an original stock car .. Mine looks the Same as this one just a different color and 2.0 eng And I'm being told it's a piece of shit .. BUT Now someone has put a Chalon kit on a six and these guys are all getting moist and talking a different tune .. How is that ??? Don't see the Numbers of what it is going down the street .. Nor do you know what engine is in it .. All I see is all the 914 Chalon kit cars all look the same no Matter What the VIN # is .. So I'm a little Confused ..

If it's cheap enough you can pull off the kit and restore to stock.
http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?sho...=347661&hl=

Just do it

I remember around the time of this issue a red Chalon with the whale tale was on the TV show ALICE. I remember something about a pissed off wife that sold the car for a dollar.

the blue chalon six years ago is back in germany vintage GT style racer now..

I was just thinking about that car, i was lucky enough to get some seat time in it at Streets of Willows when it still had the Chalon kit on it.

I was wrong still in the US or was..

www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=96728&hl=

@beakster

Porsche 914/4 -- maybe worth $40-50K on high end for a nice conversion with a six.

Very original Porsche 914/4 with something like 5,000 original DOCUMENTED miles in stellar condition went for $90K at auction recently but every mile it is ever driven results in MASSIVE depreciation since the value was in the low milage.

914/6's regularly going for over $100K even for those that are not original and/or restored to a decent standard. A real 914/6 GT with race history recently went over $900K.

Simple math. Has nothing to do with the Chalon kit. Whoever buys will strip the Chalon kit and put back to some sort of 914/6 configuration. Depending on on the reserve price and how the work is done (DIY or professional restoration), it could be a smoking deal or a money pit that barely breaks even.

Based on the flamed out wreck with matching VIN's that hasn't sold, it seems that the value of the 914/6 VIN alone is somewhere above $10K and below $17K. In my mind car this could be higher since the start from point is so much better than with the flamed wreck.

My beef is .. a modified 914 is a Modified Car no matter how it's been modified some more then others .. No matter how some guys want to justify it or call what you (mine) a .. Bottom line is that these cars are 40+ years old and ALL need help in some way .. I remember years ago on this subject when I went from 911's to 914's .. Which in the 911world a 914 is
I have learn otherwise ..

@Beakster

Ultimately it doesn't matter what you or I think.

Free market price is set by the price a voluntary buyer is willing to pay to a voluntary seller.

Well at least your were able to finally see that the 914 is by far the superior platform. and came over from the dark side. Nothing wrong with a Chalon in my book, I used to desperatly want one in the late 80's early 90's. My tastes just changed with time and now I prefer the GT look but hold nothing against Chalons.

Superhawk ...

I see the Chalon kit on a 914 is like the Slantnose on a 911 or (930)
or Widebody Slantnose 914 ..

this one was on ebay 46k real six

Yes ... !! Mine is just Flat Black with a 2.0 (Right Now) till it Passes inspection ...

It's back...

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1970-Porsche-914-C...5EAAOSwQcJfGxPZ

Someday I'll probably wish I had bought the darn thing! Still don't fully understand how this goes from cover of a magazine to this state. Poor 914's led rough lives.

Not just 914's, many a Porsche has gone from great car to thrown out with the trash. Take my 911 for example, special ordered by a King, King Hussein of Jordan, only to be left decades later rotting in a field.

Cheapest one is the 914 you don't buy.

Paid $30k-ish for my converted 914-6 and it still needs about $15k worth of work. Dunno if there is such a thing as a cheap six anymore unless you get lucky.

Looks like it finally sold.

$17,800

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1970-Porsche-914-C...=p2047675.l2557

And there you have it. Free Market Value of a 914/6 VIN.

Next step, rebuild the rest of the car around the VIN.

That is an incorrect statement!
That car only needs quarter panels and fenders, not even close to building a car around a VIN.

You hit the nail on the head Glenn. I saw the car in person and it doesn’t appear to need structural repair or accident damage repair. It needs a Chalon delete repair. It is a good starting point.

Charlie

To all those haters out there a real 6 chassis is still a rare bird
A matching numbers 6 is beyond most pocketbooks putting a real 6 motor even non matching is a viable option since there where only as many motors made as cars I would think. Most of you can be in your 4s or tribute conversions ,only hating those who have one. I'll stick to my nom matching number 6 All of us have our likes and dislike just let it be.

the problem is finding new quarters and fenders. Just not available. THEN if one finds a donor car with four good ones, usually the car is worth saving and not cutting up for parts

I also would like to say even if you find a motor you have a difficult time knowing if it's correct. Porsche has made it difficulty to identify chassis/motor combos due to those unscrupulous people who swap bins plates and stamp cases just to cheat someone out of cash. You know what happened to Seinfeld .Everyone would like to make there cars correct but finances don't allow I think this one can be saved with deep pockets.

Seems like a smart buy for someone who isn't wrapped up in a 914-6 concours car and just wants a great 914-6 to drive and enjoy.

If it doesn't need structural repairs, it's already miles and miles ahead of a lot of 914s that do, and this one is an idea candidate for a 914-6 GT build if you've got to put four fenders on it anyway. Color change, at this point? Who cares, but Signal Orange is cool. And I'd way rather work with a good rub that needs four fenders than anything that needs "inner fenders" (and more…). While the Chalon kit is creaking in a dumpster, it's perfect time to address chassis stiffening, too.

A dead and/or rusty but straight and complete early 914-4 would make a great donor for parts, and those cars are out there.

I'm a 914/6 lover and previously posted that I wish I could be the one to save it.

However, It needs far more than quarter panels before it will be in the hunt for that $100k 914/6 pricetag. Even with all the work, the final value will be highly dependent on the quality of the restoration and underlying workmanship.

As the Doc stated, it's not quite as simple as lifting some panels off a ratted out /4 and returning it to stock.

I do agree it's not as bad as the other flamed out wreck that has been offered in the past and is a good value to someone, especially if they can do the metalwork, paint, engine, trans, and electrical all in their own shop. Someday I'll wish it had been the right time for me to step up. Unfortunately my hands and garage are already busy with trying to save a /4 that should have been scrapped.

Stay tuned and I will show you how it is done

Glenn it sold for less than,,,
did you aquire it ??

If I were looking for another project, this one would have been my dream. Ambitious project at the right price.

No but I know who did

If it is actually solid structurally..
I can’t see it being a bad starting point..
Don’t need all the corners from the same donor car..
Acquire parts patiently and have a factory 6 .
Maybe not numbers matching...
But a solid car...
I’ve seen much worse made into a stellar car
after much rust and collision damage repair...

When I was doing my 914/6 I found a very decent body within a couple of hours drive for $500, not worth saving on it's own, but gave up a lot of good metal.

The story continues...
De-Chaloning of 914.043.1368

with Glenn body shops change panels all the time.

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COTM 914Dave’s GT before and after.

What’s the color code on this one? I’m now thinking of geyser gray

Still finding more rust on my “Clean with solid floors” money pit

Per Dave - It's off a 1957 356, it's called Stein Grau ( stone grey). It looks green in low light and brownish in direct light. Here's a better pic of the color.

I’ve seen it in person a number of times - stunning.