Full Version: D - Jetronic female connector
Somebody's up early
Hey @JeffBowlsby - I'll be back with my 914 in two weeks so checking in to see what you have up your sleeve!
Im in for one.....
I’ll take a couple of these.
Thanks
Mack
Thanks
Mack
Gents,
I have been away most of July for my day job and wanted to follow-up with you on this.
Been trying to figure out what the best way to proceed is, to keep the total cost to you a minimum. The connector parts are not expensive and I have a 5 sets in my possession, can easily get more. The work involves cutting the wires to length, mounting the wire terminals, wrapping the wires with heat shrink (3 pieces). Which means you need a crimper and heat gun, tools you may not have. The tools probably cost $50-75$ together.
Unless you have better ideas I think the options are below, none of which I see as particularly cost efficient all things considered:
1. You send me your dist, I mount the plug, heat shrink the wires and ship it back to you. Parts & labor is probably $25., plus shipping costs both ways which is expensive these days.
2. I post the part numbers and sources, and you buy the parts, do the work your self. You need the tools and incur shipping charge minimums for small order parts. You also need 3 short lengths of heat shrink, which no one sells in that quantity, meaning you would need to buy a larger quantity that you may not need.
3. I assemble kits of the parts and sell them to you ($10. shipped) but you will need the tools.
What is the preference? Maybe options 1 and 3? Both a kit for those with tools and a 'I'll send my dist to you and you send it back complete' approach for those that do not have the tools?
Post your response to this thread.
@fiacra
@gonzo54
@FlacaProductions
@Jim C
@Quinn Moore
@Robarabian
@56kabrio
I have been away most of July for my day job and wanted to follow-up with you on this.
Been trying to figure out what the best way to proceed is, to keep the total cost to you a minimum. The connector parts are not expensive and I have a 5 sets in my possession, can easily get more. The work involves cutting the wires to length, mounting the wire terminals, wrapping the wires with heat shrink (3 pieces). Which means you need a crimper and heat gun, tools you may not have. The tools probably cost $50-75$ together.
Unless you have better ideas I think the options are below, none of which I see as particularly cost efficient all things considered:
1. You send me your dist, I mount the plug, heat shrink the wires and ship it back to you. Parts & labor is probably $25., plus shipping costs both ways which is expensive these days.
2. I post the part numbers and sources, and you buy the parts, do the work your self. You need the tools and incur shipping charge minimums for small order parts. You also need 3 short lengths of heat shrink, which no one sells in that quantity, meaning you would need to buy a larger quantity that you may not need.
3. I assemble kits of the parts and sell them to you ($10. shipped) but you will need the tools.
What is the preference? Maybe options 1 and 3? Both a kit for those with tools and a 'I'll send my dist to you and you send it back complete' approach for those that do not have the tools?
Post your response to this thread.
@fiacra
@gonzo54
@FlacaProductions
@Jim C
@Quinn Moore
@Robarabian
@56kabrio
Hi @JeffBowlsby - thanks for this.
I'm with you on options 1 and 3 seeming most logical.
For those that are ordering a new 123, option 1 would have it shipped straight to you for the mod and then it'll be plug-n-play upon final delivery.
This might also be an option for people who have down time over the winter, etc when the 914 is off the road for a bit.
Personally, I'd opt for option 3 for myself right now as I probably have the crimper - or am not scared to get one - and have shrink tube and heat guns.
I'll most likely have the time to do this during the week of Aug 10-17. Tell me where to send $10!
Thanks Jeff!!
I'm with you on options 1 and 3 seeming most logical.
For those that are ordering a new 123, option 1 would have it shipped straight to you for the mod and then it'll be plug-n-play upon final delivery.
This might also be an option for people who have down time over the winter, etc when the 914 is off the road for a bit.
Personally, I'd opt for option 3 for myself right now as I probably have the crimper - or am not scared to get one - and have shrink tube and heat guns.
I'll most likely have the time to do this during the week of Aug 10-17. Tell me where to send $10!
Thanks Jeff!!
QUOTE(JeffBowlsby @ Jul 27 2024, 01:37 PM) 
Gents,
I have been away most of July for my day job and wanted to follow-up with you on this.
Been trying to figure out what the best way to proceed is, to keep the total cost to you a minimum. The connector parts are not expensive and I have a 5 sets in my possession, can easily get more. The work involves cutting the wires to length, mounting the wire terminals, wrapping the wires with heat shrink (3 pieces). Which means you need a crimper and heat gun, tools you may not have. The tools probably cost $50-75$ together.
Unless you have better ideas I think the options are below, none of which I see as particularly cost efficient all things considered:
1. You send me your dist, I mount the plug, heat shrink the wires and ship it back to you. Parts & labor is probably $25., plus shipping costs both ways which is expensive these days.
2. I post the part numbers and sources, and you buy the parts, do the work your self. You need the tools and incur shipping charge minimums for small order parts. You also need 3 short lengths of heat shrink, which no one sells in that quantity, meaning you would need to buy a larger quantity that you may not need.
3. I assemble kits of the parts and sell them to you ($10. shipped) but you will need the tools.
What is the preference? Maybe options 1 and 3? Both a kit for those with tools and a 'I'll send my dist to you and you send it back complete' approach for those that do not have the tools?
Post your response to this thread.
@fiacra
@gonzo54
@FlacaProductions
@Jim C
@Quinn Moore
@Robarabian
@56kabrio
I'd go for option 3. I have the tools. Heat shrink etc.
Thanks for your work on this.
QM
How about a fourth option? Can I bring them to you and we do them together? More than happy to pay for your time and expertise. Otherwise I'll chose option three. That's probably the best option for your busy schedule. I already have the tools. I'll need enough materials to do two distributors.
QUOTE(JeffBowlsby @ Jul 27 2024, 11:37 AM)
Gents,
I have been away most of July for my day job and wanted to follow-up with you on this.
Been trying to figure out what the best way to proceed is, to keep the total cost to you a minimum. The connector parts are not expensive and I have a 5 sets in my possession, can easily get more. The work involves cutting the wires to length, mounting the wire terminals, wrapping the wires with heat shrink (3 pieces). Which means you need a crimper and heat gun, tools you may not have. The tools probably cost $50-75$ together.
Unless you have better ideas I think the options are below, none of which I see as particularly cost efficient all things considered:
1. You send me your dist, I mount the plug, heat shrink the wires and ship it back to you. Parts & labor is probably $25., plus shipping costs both ways which is expensive these days.
2. I post the part numbers and sources, and you buy the parts, do the work your self. You need the tools and incur shipping charge minimums for small order parts. You also need 3 short lengths of heat shrink, which no one sells in that quantity, meaning you would need to buy a larger quantity that you may not need.
3. I assemble kits of the parts and sell them to you ($10. shipped) but you will need the tools.
What is the preference? Maybe options 1 and 3? Both a kit for those with tools and a 'I'll send my dist to you and you send it back complete' approach for those that do not have the tools?
Post your response to this thread.
@fiacra
@gonzo54
@FlacaProductions
@Jim C
@Quinn Moore
@Robarabian
[b]@[url=http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showuser=5219]56kabrio[/ur
Jeff @JeffBowlsey, I'm going with option #3. A friend has the good crimper and I have the rest.
Thanks-Rick
Ill grab up option 3 as well.. I have the tools, heat shrink etc..
I’ll go with option 3 as well.
Thanks
Mack
Thanks
Mack
I'll go with option 3.
Thanks all, for the interest. I will send out individual PMs today with payment details. Need to order a few more sets to accommodate everyone.
Thanks, Jeff - what crimper is needed?
QUOTE(FlacaProductions @ Jul 30 2024, 10:31 AM)
Thanks, Jeff - what crimper is needed?
Loaded question! A bit like asking what the best oil is....
This one or similar should be sufficient for this job: https://www.waytekwire.com/product/crimper-...-metri-pack-150
I have PM'd everyone that indicated an interest in these, with payment details.
For anyone else interested, please contact me.
For anyone else interested, please contact me.
Sorry, redundant post.
Thanks all, payments received and additional parts ordered to be delivered on Monday to fill the orders.
Mailing today to Mack, Quinn, James and Brian
Mailing first of next week to Rick and Robert
Looking forward, I can make these connector kits available to others with a 123 Distributor running D-Jet, please contact me by PM to make arrangements.
Mailing today to Mack, Quinn, James and Brian
Mailing first of next week to Rick and Robert
Looking forward, I can make these connector kits available to others with a 123 Distributor running D-Jet, please contact me by PM to make arrangements.
I guess the more accurate question is what type of connections are being crimped?
are we putting pins wires or?? What is the proper type of tool for the job?
Thanks, Jeff - what crimper is needed?
Loaded question! A bit like asking what the best oil is....
This one or similar should be sufficient for this job: https://www.waytekwire.com/product/crimper-...-metri-pack-150
are we putting pins wires or?? What is the proper type of tool for the job?
QUOTE(JeffBowlsby @ Jul 30 2024, 02:53 PM)
QUOTE(FlacaProductions @ Jul 30 2024, 10:31 AM)
Thanks, Jeff - what crimper is needed?
Loaded question! A bit like asking what the best oil is....
This one or similar should be sufficient for this job: https://www.waytekwire.com/product/crimper-...-metri-pack-150
QUOTE(FlacaProductions @ Jul 31 2024, 10:14 AM)
I guess the more accurate question is what type of connections are being crimped?
are we putting pins wires or?? What is the proper type of tool for the job?
You need to crimp open barrel wire terminals onto the 2 wires on the 123 dizzy for the trigger points. The male terminals in the photo below, which insert into the cavities of the new female housing I am sending you, which mates to the male 3 pole housing on the FI wire harness.
So you need an "open barrel wire terminal crimper tool". You will also need a wire stripper to remove the wire insulation to expose the wire, to install the wire terminal.
Perfect! Thank you, Jeff!
QUOTE(JeffBowlsby @ Jul 31 2024, 01:58 PM)
So you need an "open barrel wire terminal crimper tool".
Cause Jeff’s too nice - I’ll reiterate this doesn’t mean the $5 set of hardware store crimpers you’ve been using with those hokey hardware store red/blue/yellow terminals
Thanks @jeffbowlsby . Received the kit today. I'll install this weekend.
Your work on this is very appreciated. Takes time and effort.
Thanks again,
QM
Your work on this is very appreciated. Takes time and effort.
Thanks again,
QM
I met up with @jeffbowlsby two days ago and he installed his upgrade on both of my 123's. I have one D-Jet and one L-Jet car (1974 2.0 and 1975 1.8) and both distributors are tune +. Obviously the trigger point connections are not an issue on the L-Jet, but protection of the wires, with strain relief and extra protection from heat, are shared potential problems. I'll let Jeff further comment on his technique if he wishes, but at branch points and at the compression nut there are double layers of shrink wrap. For example, both coil wires run together through a length of shrink wrap but at the branch point there is a short length of shrink wrap under the longer length that serves to add extra strain protection. I haven't yet put on ring terminals for the grounds so I left them at the provided length. Instructions say to ground to the battery, but are any of you grounding to another location that you think is cleaner/better? I can trim this later and add the ring terminals. Here are pictures of both distributors:
D-Jet
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L-Jet
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That's fantastic and a great target. I just got back to Indiana and my 914 and found the envelope waiting - as promised.
I'll get on it as soon possible - looks like the perfect solution!
I'll get on it as soon possible - looks like the perfect solution!
Thx Broheen, glad you like how it turned out and I think we made a great product even better.
QUOTE(JeffBowlsby @ Aug 11 2024, 05:17 PM)
Thx Broheen, glad you like how it turned out and I think we made a great product even better.
It looks fantastic and even more importantly the wiring and connections are better protected and hopefully will give longer, trouble free service. Thank you again for doing this, and as always it was good to see you.
Now I only have to get off my backside and put them in. Having trouble getting over the psychological aspect of messing with smooth running engines...
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