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markb
I had a 71 4 with the squared bumper.
6freak
QUOTE(markb @ Jul 19 2008, 09:10 PM) *

I had a 71 4 with the squared bumper.


3 1970 6`s in my family and two have the squared bumpers 1 rounded ...I think it was just a matter of witch one was available when the car was put togather in the factory
Lavanaut
I know that happened often later on in the heritage, but everything we've seen as a group indicates that all of the '70 /6s had the squared bumper. After all, the rounded-edge bumpers weren't even around yet.

My guess is, the /6 in your family with the rounded bumper had the original bumper replaced somewhere along the line.
6freak
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I know that happened often later on in the heritage, but everything we've seen as a group indicates that all of the '70 /6s had the squared bumper. After all, the rounded-edge bumpers weren't even around yet.

My guess is, the /6 in your family with the rounded bumper had the original bumper replaced somewhere along the line.


My Dads 6 has been in the family sence it was brand new and it was never wrecked or even pumped into .... it was repainted so just maybe when it was put back togather they put the wrong one on ??.I have asked him about it and he says its stock confused24.gif
Lavanaut
Wow, that's really pretty interesting!
Johny Blackstain
Squarebacks are rare & as far as I know all 914s came w/ them in 1970.
6freak
QUOTE(Johny Blackstain @ Jan 6 2009, 11:16 AM) *

Squarebacks are rare & as far as I know all 914s came w/ them in 1970.


is there #s stamped on them somewhere i could look up....the mystery continues
1970 Neun vierzehn
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QUOTE(Lavanaut @ Jan 6 2009, 10:43 AM) *

I know that happened often later on in the heritage, but everything we've seen as a group indicates that all of the '70 /6s had the squared bumper. After all, the rounded-edge bumpers weren't even around yet.

My guess is, the /6 in your family with the rounded bumper had the original bumper replaced somewhere along the line.


My Dads 6 has been in the family sence it was brand new and it was never wrecked or even pumped into .... it was repainted so just maybe when it was put back togather they put the wrong one on ??.I have asked him about it and he says its stock confused24.gif


Do you know the build date of your dads' /6?

Paul
6freak
QUOTE(1970 Neun vierzehn @ Jan 6 2009, 08:08 PM) *

QUOTE(6freak @ Jan 6 2009, 11:03 AM) *

QUOTE(Lavanaut @ Jan 6 2009, 10:43 AM) *

I know that happened often later on in the heritage, but everything we've seen as a group indicates that all of the '70 /6s had the squared bumper. After all, the rounded-edge bumpers weren't even around yet.

My guess is, the /6 in your family with the rounded bumper had the original bumper replaced somewhere along the line.


My Dads 6 has been in the family sence it was brand new and it was never wrecked or even pumped into .... it was repainted so just maybe when it was put back togather they put the wrong one on ??.I have asked him about it and he says its stock confused24.gif


Do you know the build date of your dads' /6?

Paul

I will find out..Mite take me a day or two
Jlance
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Hi all,

Here's front & rear bumpers on my 1974 914-4 car. Notice on the rear bumper the small dia. hole plug for the tow eye. On my car it's (original) chromed plastic. I've tried to find another & never found one. mad.gif

Tom

hi, just bought a 75 914 and wanting to put those bumpers on. what am i looking for and where's the best place to find them? yours look great!
914runnow
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QUOTE(Thomas J Bliznik @ Jan 20 2007, 12:40 PM) *

Hi all,

Here's front & rear bumpers on my 1974 914-4 car. Notice on the rear bumper the small dia. hole plug for the tow eye. On my car it's (original) chromed plastic. I've tried to find another & never found one. mad.gif

Tom

hi, just bought a 75 914 and wanting to put those bumpers on. what am i looking for and where's the best place to find them? yours look great!

Cutting-Drilling-repainting-grinding-secure parts-plug holes-
rechrome-top rubber caps secure-oooooopsssss then
another set of fogs and grills....$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
(the horns can still stay below....)Put some WTB's out there
and check the classic threads for a retro fit....Good Luck sawzall-smiley.gif
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Cairo94507
I had a '73 a long time ago and I took the chrome front bumper to a body shop and asked them to send it out to their bumper repair shop (outside contractor) and have the minor dent removed (some fool backing into it) and while they were at it to fill the license plate holes and bumper tit holes. It came back a week later and looked perfect. They straightened it, welded up the holes and re-chromed the whole thing. Just a thought.
TedK
If you are not in a hurry, bumpers do show up for sale in much better condition than those. Hell, I gave away an extra rear bumper that just needed re-chroming.
Pat Garvey
I've seen some just about that bad that have been made perfect.

It won't be cheap, but a very good metal person can make it happen.

You will be very lucky to find undamaged bumpers that won't need any work. If you find damaged ones, even though not as severe as yours, you'll pay the price to bring them back. Will you save money? Maybe, but doubtful.

I'd ask aroung my locale for the best metal bender & go talk to him.

Though it was a long time ago, what did you do with in insurance money you got?

Should have gotten new ones then, when they were still available.
Pat
Tman914
QUOTE(Thomas J Bliznik @ Jan 20 2007, 01:40 PM) *

Hi all,

Here's front & rear bumpers on my 1974 914-4 car. Notice on the rear bumper the small dia. hole plug for the tow eye. On my car it's (original) chromed plastic. I've tried to find another & never found one. mad.gif

Tom


Yo tom
nice pic I noticed your exhaust system what are you running on that 914-4
914runnow
QUOTE(Tom_T @ Apr 15 2009, 11:45 PM) *

Okay Folks - here's a question about the restorability of damaged chrome bumpers vs. finding used ones as parts or on a parts car. This is a more critical issue now that these chrome bumpers are NLA for both front & back at this point!

My `73 2L with appearance group was damaged front & rear when hit in a parking structure in 5/`85 & has been stored since. Last week I unburied the car in the garage & pulled the bumpers & a few other parts to do an assessment of what I'm up against. I've posted pix of the damaged front & rear chrome bumpers below, but this is my first attempt at posting pix here - so please excuse any faux pas.

I'm seeking opinions on whether or not these can & should be straightened & repaired???? Thanx in Advance!

....or whether I'd be better off looking for some straighter ones on a parts car or parts???

DAMAGED FRONT CHROMIE:
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DAMAGED REAR CHROMIE: - see next post....

Welllllll twas me I would go for good cond bumps and replate those..
your smushed ones might not line up when done as those are prettttttty
tweaked.....plus the top rubber caps also will not have hole alignment problems....
was their ins monies??...Plus you can get an early 70 71 72 and eliminate
the bumperettes in the front...UNLESS keeping concour...put some WTB ..Bumps and see what comes across for offers!!
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Pat Garvey
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QUOTE(Pat Garvey @ Apr 18 2009, 06:42 PM) *

I've seen some just about that bad that have been made perfect.

It won't be cheap, but a very good metal person can make it happen.

You will be very lucky to find undamaged bumpers that won't need any work. If you find damaged ones, even though not as severe as yours, you'll pay the price to bring them back. Will you save money? Maybe, but doubtful.

I'd ask aroung my locale for the best metal bender & go talk to him.

Though it was a long time ago, what did you do with in insurance money you got?

Should have gotten new ones then, when they were still available.
Pat


Used to be that the bumper/re-chromer shops around here had jigs that they used to get 914 bumpers back into proper shape, but I don't know if they still do anymore!?

Yuppers - hindsight is 20:20 or better! I could've gotten ALL new rubber, chrome & body panels back then for $4500, & I did eventually get the guilty party's Daddy's insurance company to pay the full $6500+ estimate! ...but as I said in my other reply, I was finishing Grad School, starting a family, and decided to buy the BMW with a back seat for the family - then "take my time" to locate a parts car to cut the cost of the repairs! dry.gif

...I think 24 years is enough time to "take" & to do without my teener - don't you!? biggrin.gif

...assuming that was a "yes" I just heard you nod, please tell my wife so too, plus reinforce that it'll be an "extra" car when my son needs to go soomewhere in one of the other 2, while your at it! shades.gif

...and BTW - I'll be taking your rocker panel instructions up as soon as I can get to them!

Yeah, I can understand. You do what's needed at the time.

Remember when I was about to get out of grad school - drove the 914 every night (I was working full time). We had a Harvard approach, so we stayed as a group until security sent us packing. One night in February, I was on campus untill 11:30, before the cops sent us packing. Went to my 914 & the locks were frozen! Thought they just needed some warm air, so I locked my lips on the handle & proceeded to blow air into the lock. I swear this is true! It was about 20 degrees.

Lips froze on the door latch! Tongue froze on the keyhole! No one around - thankfully!

After a bit of panic, I thought - blow what hot air you have from your guts. Did so. it worked. First the tongue came off, then (slowly) the lips.

Key worked the door after that, but I had the worst case of chapped lips ever.

Then I found WD40.

True story & sorry for the hijack - when you become older these things just come back from nowhere.

Grad school was such a hoot! Yeppir, fond memories.
Pat
Tom_T
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Pat Garvey
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QUOTE(Pat Garvey @ Apr 21 2009, 05:08 PM) *

QUOTE(Tom_T @ Apr 19 2009, 05:43 AM) *

QUOTE(Pat Garvey @ Apr 18 2009, 06:42 PM) *

I've seen some just about that bad that have been made perfect.

It won't be cheap, but a very good metal person can make it happen.

You will be very lucky to find undamaged bumpers that won't need any work. If you find damaged ones, even though not as severe as yours, you'll pay the price to bring them back. Will you save money? Maybe, but doubtful.

I'd ask aroung my locale for the best metal bender & go talk to him.

Though it was a long time ago, what did you do with in insurance money you got?

Should have gotten new ones then, when they were still available.
Pat


Used to be that the bumper/re-chromer shops around here had jigs that they used to get 914 bumpers back into proper shape, but I don't know if they still do anymore!?

Yuppers - hindsight is 20:20 or better! I could've gotten ALL new rubber, chrome & body panels back then for $4500, & I did eventually get the guilty party's Daddy's insurance company to pay the full $6500+ estimate! ...but as I said in my other reply, I was finishing Grad School, starting a family, and decided to buy the BMW with a back seat for the family - then "take my time" to locate a parts car to cut the cost of the repairs! dry.gif

...I think 24 years is enough time to "take" & to do without my teener - don't you!? biggrin.gif

...assuming that was a "yes" I just heard you nod, please tell my wife so too, plus reinforce that it'll be an "extra" car when my son needs to go soomewhere in one of the other 2, while your at it! shades.gif

...and BTW - I'll be taking your rocker panel instructions up as soon as I can get to them!

Yeah, I can understand. You do what's needed at the time.

Remember when I was about to get out of grad school - drove the 914 every night (I was working full time). We had a Harvard approach, so we stayed as a group until security sent us packing. One night in February, I was on campus untill 11:30, before the cops sent us packing. Went to my 914 & the locks were frozen! Thought they just needed some warm air, so I locked my lips on the handle & proceeded to blow air into the lock. I swear this is true! It was about 20 degrees.

Lips froze on the door latch! Tongue froze on the keyhole! No one around - thankfully!

After a bit of panic, I thought - blow what hot air you have from your guts. Did so. it worked. First the tongue came off, then (slowly) the lips.

Key worked the door after that, but I had the worst case of chapped lips ever.

Then I found WD40.

True story & sorry for the hijack - when you become older these things just come back from nowhere.

Grad school was such a hoot! Yeppir, fond memories.
Pat


Geez Pat, you missed your calling, you shoulda been on Red Skelton, Carol Burnett or something! It's taken me 2 days to stop giggling every time I think of this story! lol-2.gif

So has the WD40 helped your chapped lips over the years? I've only used it on metal parts - never tried it that way, but I suppose the oil in it would add emollients!? biggrin.gif laugh.gif

My 914 was wacked while I was in Grad School MBA classes too - starting at 8 am thru to 11:30 also - jammed them into 2 - 2.5 days a week, ran my business the others & drove 50 miles each way from OC to UCLA! So I know the drill you did all too well! Grad School was fun - except for the mashed 914 by a dizzy Sorority gal! dry.gif

I THINK THAT I can find a parts car around SoCal with straight deck lids, headlight, other body parts & chrome bumpers in need of hopefully no more than clean-up & re-chroming for around $500, & maybe even some of the other rubber parts would be usable for the NLAs! unsure.gif

Umm, Tom - be forewarned!

Even if you have a straight bumper that needs re-chroming, it's going to cost you plenty! Decent chrome shops are out there, but thecosts they accumulate for disposal of hazardous materials are drilled down to the customer. Chroming is a very nasty business! My father-in-law (now deceased) sold his plating business in the early 90's because of the costs associated.

Unfortunately, we early teeners have big slabs of steel fore & aft that require immense amounts of nasty chemicals to re-plate them. Expect high costs!
Pat

ps: I've gone to Chapstick. WD40 gave me the farts!
HOF porsche914
My rear bumper on my 1976 914 has a round hole on the left side...can't find a plug/cover for it, any ideas?, Thanks
Pat Garvey
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My rear bumper on my 1976 914 has a round hole on the left side...can't find a plug/cover for it, any ideas?, Thanks

I have a '72, but believe your plug is a tow hook cover. Shouldn't be too diff to find (Auto Atlanta, Pelican Parts, the classifieds here.

Welcome, and thank you, thank you for posting your question in the correct thread!
Pat biggrin.gif
HOF porsche914
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QUOTE(HOF porsche914 @ Jul 26 2009, 09:00 PM) *

My rear bumper on my 1976 914 has a round hole on the left side...can't find a plug/cover for it, any ideas?, Thanks

I have a '72, but believe your plug is a tow hook cover. Shouldn't be too diff to find (Auto Atlanta, Pelican Parts, the classifieds here.

Welcome, and thank you, thank you for posting your question in the correct thread!
Pat biggrin.gif

Thank alot
windforfun
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QUOTE(HOF porsche914 @ Jul 26 2009, 09:00 PM) *

My rear bumper on my 1976 914 has a round hole on the left side...can't find a plug/cover for it, any ideas?, Thanks

I have a '72, but believe your plug is a tow hook cover. Shouldn't be too diff to find (Auto Atlanta, Pelican Parts, the classifieds here.

Welcome, and thank you, thank you for posting your question in the correct thread!
Pat biggrin.gif

Thank alot


Try www.caplugs.com. They offer free samples & might have something you like. Maybe.
Tom_T
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windforfun
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My rear bumper on my 1976 914 has a round hole on the left side...can't find a plug/cover for it, any ideas?, Thanks

I have a '72, but believe your plug is a tow hook cover. Shouldn't be too diff to find (Auto Atlanta, Pelican Parts, the classifieds here.

Welcome, and thank you, thank you for posting your question in the correct thread!
Pat biggrin.gif


Yup - that's the hole so you can screw the oval tow hook from the tool kit into the back bumper receptacle (actually a rear body panel attachemet inside the bumper shell).

They came with a black plastic plug for 75-76 & on any 70-74 black painted steel early bumpers, or painted to body color for 70-72, or chrome (plasti-chrome) with 70-74 chrome bumpers.

The plugs link above wants to sell huge quantities, so you might want to try the local Pep Boys or Kragen/O'Reilly, Checker, etc. for some of their misc caps, as I understand from SoCalAndy on here that he found a chrome one to fit his 72 at the local Pep Boys, so someone may also have black too.


They do offer free samples. I've used these guys several times. FYI. Cheers.
6freak
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we gots bumpers
Tom_T
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- Original was about options for replacement for the NLA R bumper tow hole plugs.....updated 3-24-12

AA & IIRC Mikey914/914Rubber & maybe some other online vendors are producing & carrying aftermarket repro rear bumper tow hook hole plugs in both chrome (plasti-chrome) & black.

There are also the chromed, polished nickel, polished SS, etc. metal plugs available at the FLAPS, Home DIYs, etc. which can be used as a substitute for non-CW 914s.
windforfun
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They do offer free samples. I've used these guys several times. FYI. Cheers.


Sorry - I missed that in your first post - damn these eyes! blink.gif

I didn't see any chromed plugs under the color options which I'd checked (all black) - do you know if they carry anything in shiny SS, aluminum, etc. for those of us with the chrome bumpers?? confused24.gif

- since the new chrome plugs are NLA & "free" there is even better than the "pay for" option at Pep Boys from SoCalAndy! biggrin.gif


http://www.advancecomponents.com/products_...CFSkZawodezPv0A



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Thanx! .... you're a wealth of info Mr. "Wind" !! biggrin.gif

Pardon me for raining on the parade...... which you all know I'm good at.

Tom, your plug should be "plated" plastic, and they ARE available from numerous dismantlers.

The metal plugs, though a better product, will stand out like a zit on your sisters nose. If you're after a proper resto of your "S", search for (& be patient - took me six years to find a proper snowplow rear valence for my 72) the proper plug. You'll find it. May even want to talk to George (AA). He probably has a stash of them.

Do not accept substitutes.....unless you don't care.
Pat
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ldsgeek
A question about the rear on a 1974. The car I bought has a painted metal front bumper but a (big, ugly) rubber rear bumper. It was built in 11/73 according to the tag on the door jamb. Is this a correct configuration or was my car back-halfed at some point?

Thanks,

David T
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A question about the rear on a 1974. The car I bought has a painted metal front bumper but a (big, ugly) rubber rear bumper. It was built in 11/73 according to the tag on the door jamb. Is this a correct configuration or was my car back-halfed at some point?

Thanks,

David T

A pic or two would help, but it sounds like you have a combo of pre-75 bumper on the front & post-74 on the rear. They are NOT interchangeable! I'd check to make sure your car hasn't had a later rear clip put on it.
Pat
RichardFDR
I'm new to here and excited to learn lots more, although I've been learning slowly since acquiring my first 914 seven years ago.

My black 1973 2.0 (originally sold in Kansas, but extensively restored in the UK before my time) had a chrome rear bumper but the front bit that is normally chrome was body coloured black gloss. I'd always assumed this was standard but reading here wonder if it was actually a modification. I attach a picture of the front and back

Thanks for any tips

Richard
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RichardFDR
Wow Tom. Thanks very much. I should have asked about this ages ago. Yes you're right, all that spec about the interior is what the car is, leather wheel, console etc.
The car had a serious prang at the front before my ownership, so I can see now that the black bumper was perhaps a cheaper option than finding a chrome one. The grills around the fog lights are both metal not plastic.

(The sad thing is now this car is scrap, as I pranged the front myself, but I've kept the wreck and have acquired a 1972 black one which has been modified to be 2.0l. Given that change, and that it's been quite heavily restored inside my plan is to evolve it into something a little closer to a 1973 2.0 and so before I commence on the restoration I want to get the spec correct. The new car has a chrome front bumper with tell tail holes of where the tits would have once fitted, which I'll probably leave incomplete I think but would have filled and painted had it been factory spec, as I quite liked the black front end look and the chrome's not in perfect shape).

Thanks for advice about the wheels. I need advice about these, and will ask that in the correct thread

(The photos were taken by Lake Maggiore (front) and Lake Garda ferry (rear)! I'm reminiscing about about my travels!
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RichardFDR
Yes I saved the 193 2L, all be it the insurance company charged me a lot for it, but it'll gradually be picked at for bits to go on the new one, bits to save for wear and tear and bits to sell. It's a sad day, the car had original paperwork from it's sale. But it's been written off twice now, and it'll not be reborn again
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1970 Neun vierzehn
Early 1970 rear valence as used on a /4
Pat Garvey
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Early 1970 rear valence as used on a /4

Nice! Next time get your feet outta the pic!
RFoulds
I noticed on cleaning the bumper, that the original finish on the back is the same paint that is used on the steel wheels. so, although it is a 1974 chrome appearance group bumper, they painted the back side with the silver/white finish.

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I noticed on cleaning the bumper, that the original finish on the back is the same paint that is used on the steel wheels. so, although it is a 1974 chrome appearance group bumper, they painted the back side with the silver/white finish.

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Agree, though years may have dulled it some.
unpolire
Does anyone have a photo of a dealer-installed front license plate mount for a chrome bumper car? I have the mounting holes but have no idea what the bracket looks like and it is required in California.
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