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sjhenry1075
post Apr 30 2018, 09:25 AM
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My father gave me his 71 a few years ago that he purchased after returning from a tour in Vietnam. He drove it for about 5 years, put 56,000 miles on it then put it in a garage where it stayed until a few years ago.

My original plan was to build an engine to replace the 1.7 that is currently in the car. Recently I was having a conversation with a friend who told me he had a Ford straight six that I should put in the car. My question to everyone is, how do you feel about converting to a v-8, or any other "non-vw" engine? Does it make it less of a 914? No offense to those who have converted, I'd love your viewpoints as well.

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post May 1 2018, 01:19 PM
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A pair of BUB's actually weigh 80lbs total, including brackets. Early bumpers weigh 25lbs for the pair.
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QUOTE(mepstein @ May 1 2018, 11:19 AM) *

A pair of BUB's actually weigh 80lbs total, including brackets. Early bumpers weigh 25lbs for the pair.


Does that include the 4 shocks, mounts & any other hardware & unibody strengthening Mark?

I've heard others throw around +/-200 lbs. heavier all in on here before for the BUBS.

IIRC to total weight of the new 76 2.0 which I test drove before buying my 73 2L, was about 200 lbs. more than the "book curb weight" for the 73, but that undoubtedly would've also included additional weight for the Cat converter & all the plumbing & sensors, etc. as required on the CA 76 GC 2.0L's.

I know that is was no contest performance-wise between that new 76 2.0 vs. the 73 2.0 which I did end up buying - despite the monthly payment being the same for the beautiful new 76 Ancona Blue over White 914!

I'd actually first contacted the seller on my 73 in Nov. 75, but delayed so I could drive the 76 in a blue which I really liked more, & to check out financing between the 2 new 100% 60 month vs. 36 month 80% with 20% down pmt. - ergo my actual date for purchase wasn't until Dec. 75.

So I know first hand the difference, but they're ALL great & fun little cars in truth!

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QUOTE(Tom_T @ May 1 2018, 03:37 PM) *

QUOTE(mepstein @ May 1 2018, 11:19 AM) *

A pair of BUB's actually weigh 80lbs total, including brackets. Early bumpers weigh 25lbs for the pair.


Does that include the 4 shocks, mounts & any other hardware & unibody strengthening Mark?

I've heard others throw around +/-200 lbs. heavier all in on here before for the BUBS.

IIRC to total weight of the new 76 2.0 which I test drove before buying my 73 2L, was about 200 lbs. more than the "book curb weight" for the 73, but that undoubtedly would've also included additional weight for the Cat converter & all the plumbing & sensors, etc. as required on the CA 76 GC 2.0L's.

I know that is was no contest performance-wise between that new 76 2.0 vs. the 73 2.0 which I did end up buying - despite the monthly payment being the same for the beautiful new 76 Ancona Blue over White 914!

I'd actually first contacted the seller on my 73 in Nov. 75, but delayed so I could drive the 76 in a blue which I really liked more, & to check out financing between the 2 new 100% 60 month vs. 36 month 80% with 20% down pmt. - ergo my actual date for purchase wasn't until Dec. 75.

So I know first hand the difference, but they're ALL great & fun little cars in truth!

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Yes, total for the bumpers. I did not cut any sheetmetal from the car to weigh independently so add a pound or two.
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QUOTE(mepstein @ May 1 2018, 11:53 AM) *

Yes, total for the bumpers. I did not cut any sheetmetal from the car to weigh independently so add a pound or two.


But Mark, did also you weigh the 4 bumper shocks behind the bumper & their mounting hardware too - along with the bumpers & covers?

That was what I meant - not meaning that you had to cut & weigh the sheet metal.

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QUOTE(mepstein @ May 1 2018, 11:53 AM) *

Yes, total for the bumpers. I did not cut any sheetmetal from the car to weigh independently so add a pound or two.


But Mark, did also you weigh the 4 bumper shocks behind the bumper & their mounting hardware too - along with the bumpers & covers?

That was what I meant - not meaning that you had to cut & weigh the sheet metal.

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yes.
The bumper shocks are a couple pounds each.
Granted, the 55lb differential from an early car is about 2 1/2% and not insignificant on our cars.
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sjhenry1075   What is everyone's feelings on engine conversions?   Apr 30 2018, 09:25 AM
76-914   I love conversions but your opinion is the only on...   Apr 30 2018, 09:29 AM
Optimusglen   I think it depends. On a '71 914-4 that's ...   Apr 30 2018, 09:32 AM
Mark Henry   Keep it T4 or porsche /6, subaru and chevy. Those ...   Apr 30 2018, 09:46 AM
Elliot Cannon   Go with anything but the Subaru. A Japanese engin...   Apr 30 2018, 09:49 AM
worn   Go with anything but the Subaru. A Japanese engi...   May 1 2018, 10:13 AM
Tom_T   Also I believe that the 1971 1.7 was more powerfu...   May 1 2018, 12:13 PM
gothspeed   1st choice: Air cooled type 4 and 6 is awesome. 2...   Apr 30 2018, 09:54 AM
mepstein   Get your car running, drive it a while, then decid...   Apr 30 2018, 09:59 AM
Mark Henry   Get your car running, drive it a while, then deci...   Apr 30 2018, 10:05 AM
Lucky9146   Get your car running, drive it a while, then dec...   Apr 30 2018, 10:34 AM
gothspeed   Get your car running, drive it a while, then dec...   Apr 30 2018, 01:29 PM
Coondog   Never heard of anyone putting in a Ford Straight S...   Apr 30 2018, 10:00 AM
rhodyguy   How much money is in your budget?   Apr 30 2018, 10:07 AM
sjhenry1075   I wasn't going to convert to the Ford engine. ...   Apr 30 2018, 10:08 AM
eitnurg   I wasn't going to convert to the Ford engine....   May 1 2018, 03:54 AM
mepstein   One just sold for $2k and Mcmark has a fresh ...   Apr 30 2018, 10:13 AM
drem914   One just sold for $2k and Mcmark has a fresh...   Apr 30 2018, 02:14 PM
Andyrew   Its an otherwise stock clean car in need of minor ...   Apr 30 2018, 10:35 AM
McMark   IMHO, the MOST important question you can ask your...   Apr 30 2018, 10:56 AM
Tom_T   Okay SJ, Here's only my thoughts on it - you...   Apr 30 2018, 11:07 AM
mtndawg   You can probably ride a big wheel uphill in the sn...   Apr 30 2018, 01:08 PM
Tom_T   You can probably ride a big wheel uphill in the s...   Apr 30 2018, 07:44 PM
914 RZ-1   You can probably ride a big wheel uphill in the s...   Apr 30 2018, 09:14 PM
mgp4591   With all due respect I call billshit on this. I ha...   May 1 2018, 12:13 AM
Mark Henry   With all due respect I call billshit on this. I h...   May 1 2018, 07:40 AM
bbrock   With all due respect I call billshit on this. I ...   May 1 2018, 07:54 AM
JRust   I am a suby guy so it's easy for me to just sa...   Apr 30 2018, 01:39 PM
Jeff Bowlsby   Ask your Dad what he would do if he is still aroun...   Apr 30 2018, 04:54 PM
Front yard mechanic   I agree with Jeff ( this time) your Dad bought it ...   Apr 30 2018, 05:23 PM
mepstein   Ask Pat Garvey.   Apr 30 2018, 05:30 PM
Gmanscott55   WRX turbo... Screw the purist in their anemic powe...   Apr 30 2018, 08:01 PM
burton73   WRX turbo... Screw the purist in their anemic pow...   May 1 2018, 02:27 PM
Jeff Hail   Porsche was the originator of engine conversion fo...   Apr 30 2018, 08:40 PM
mepstein   Porsche was the originator of engine conversion f...   May 1 2018, 05:20 AM
rick 918-S   I would never.... :assimilate:   Apr 30 2018, 08:56 PM
Tom_T   I would never.... :assimilate: What the OP need...   Apr 30 2018, 09:51 PM
Mowog4   Do what makes you happy, but be realistic. I am c...   Apr 30 2018, 09:47 PM
ClayPerrine   I would scrap the idea of the Ford straight 6. It ...   May 1 2018, 05:10 AM
GeorgeRud   I think the only ‘correct’ conversion is to a ...   May 1 2018, 08:00 AM
76-914   I’ll agree that the P6 is the desired engine but...   May 1 2018, 09:02 AM
Mueller   I like 'em stock and with conversions. Have ...   May 1 2018, 11:44 AM
nditiz1   Hey you are local to me. My take - as others have...   May 1 2018, 11:51 AM
Spoke   Hey you are local to me. My take - as others hav...   May 1 2018, 02:49 PM
mepstein   A pair of BUB's actually weigh 80lbs total, in...   May 1 2018, 01:19 PM
Tom_T   A pair of BUB's actually weigh 80lbs total, i...   May 1 2018, 01:37 PM
mepstein   A pair of BUB's actually weigh 80lbs total, ...   May 1 2018, 01:53 PM
Tom_T   Yes, total for the bumpers. I did not cut any she...   May 1 2018, 02:00 PM
mepstein   Yes, total for the bumpers. I did not cut any sh...   May 1 2018, 02:25 PM
914Toy   Much experienced good advice has been given here. ...   May 1 2018, 02:00 PM
motorvated   My father gave me his 71 a few years ago that he ...   May 1 2018, 04:46 PM
JRust   How about a Buick 215 ci Aluminum V8 conversion. ...   May 1 2018, 09:01 PM
Larmo63   We have all given you the advice you asked for, no...   May 1 2018, 04:58 PM
jcd914   Lots of advice here 3 pages. The OP has not been ...   May 1 2018, 06:35 PM
Rand   Makes me wonder. Let's see if the OP is real. ...   May 1 2018, 06:50 PM
ConeDodger   914-6 GT clone. 3.2 Carrera powered. No... I’m...   May 1 2018, 06:57 PM
worn   914-6 GT clone. 3.2 Carrera powered. No... I’...   May 1 2018, 08:07 PM
ConeDodger   914-6 GT clone. 3.2 Carrera powered. No... Iâ€...   May 1 2018, 08:45 PM
914werke   My feelings...Yaa Baby! :woohoo:   May 2 2018, 12:33 AM


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