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| alpha434 |
Feb 4 2006, 02:24 PM
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My member number is no coincidence. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 3,154 Joined: 16-December 05 From: Denver, CO Member No.: 5,280 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
I intend on making myself titanium connecting rods. Don't tell me its a bad idea. I'm already set on doing it. BUT, I want input on the exact shape. I'm assuming that the structure has to be a little different to downplay brittleness in titanium. Porsche factory did titanium. Does anyone have one that could take a picture for me?
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| byndbad914 |
Feb 6 2006, 09:40 PM
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shoehorn and some butter - it fits ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,547 Joined: 23-January 06 From: Broomfield, CO Member No.: 5,463 Region Association: None |
I had the joy about 8 yrs ago working with some guys that had a bunch of 6" small blk chevy rods machined from ti and had issues with the coating wearing off quickly, which on a V8 is brutal. Shared journals means the rods rub against each other and ti-ti contact galls like a mf'er.
We searched and searched for almost a year at that time and found what was supposedly a good coating. They were willing to give me a set of 8 coated for $1200 to try in my engine, to which I quickly said fuck that! Build a crap 350 and just dyno it until is lets go (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif) I wasn't about to make my $9300 engine a test bed (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/screwy.gif) Last I knew a serious sprint car of some sort ran 2 full seasons with a set, so apparently they got the coating right. And sprint car rpm/spikes/variations, etc is just a whole new world of pain for an engine. Let alone the quantity of dirt that gets ran through oil passages - it's like a blood alcohol content... oil blew .24 on the dirt meter (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/beer.gif) Another engine was a drag engine. In any case, both engines were torn down on a regular basis so it was easy to inspect the rods. And I am with Twystd - ahh to be young again. And that is not trying to be an ass to alpha or one of those backhanded comments - I was just so much more eager to try anything and believe in my crazy ideas when I was 20. Christ, I was a god in my own mind at 20 and have to admit, it made for an interesting learning curve. More power to you alpha! I know you say you gave up on it, but we all know in the back of your mind you are thinking "I could do that".. And Eagle stuff is Chinese machined too - about 99% sure on that. At least that is what I was told by a vendor/middleman for Chinese stuff we were getting when I worked at a hot rod shop. Almost every set of Eagle H-beams I had to cut the caps and resize the big end because they were over spec. Machining is really hard to get good out of China, but the parts themselves are pretty solid. One of our customers was the first guy we knew of running 8.80s in a 10" tire Mustang with a blown 347 - right when the cheap Chinese rods and crank were hitting the market!!! |
alpha434 Titanium Connecting Rods Feb 4 2006, 02:24 PM
ArtechnikA <... Feb 4 2006, 02:38 PM
TimT I have 18 Pankl Ti rods at the shop, 12 are going ... Feb 4 2006, 02:54 PM
LvSteveH Without getting into detail, you will be much bett... Feb 4 2006, 03:04 PM
alpha434 <... Feb 4 2006, 04:24 PM
LvSteveH Ok.... alpha and beta and alpha/beta are not alloy... Feb 4 2006, 04:52 PM
Kevin@ojai.net <... Feb 4 2006, 04:55 PM
alpha434 Feb 4 2006, 04:56 PM
davep A net-shape forging is one that requires minimal m... Feb 4 2006, 05:00 PM
alpha434 <... Feb 4 2006, 05:03 PM
alpha434 Feb 4 2006, 05:04 PM
TimT I believe the coating on the Pankl Ti rods is an o... Feb 4 2006, 05:21 PM
kwales I wouldn't screw with titanium unless there is... Feb 4 2006, 05:32 PM
Brett W Titanium needs a coating like a DLC type coating. ... Feb 4 2006, 07:03 PM
Aaron Cox Feb 4 2006, 07:10 PM
DNHunt http://www.914world.com/bbs2... Feb 4 2006, 07:18 PM
Headrage Feb 4 2006, 07:21 PM
sean_v8_914 6 AL 4 V Feb 4 2006, 10:16 PM
MattR Feb 4 2006, 11:29 PM
URY914 Feb 4 2006, 11:39 PM
Elliot Cannon Feb 4 2006, 11:47 PM
alpha434 Feb 5 2006, 02:45 AM
MattR <... Feb 5 2006, 02:55 AM
Twystd1 Just stay with it...
Anything that can help OUR c... Feb 5 2006, 02:57 AM
URY914 <... Feb 5 2006, 08:00 AM
URY914 http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/e... Feb 5 2006, 08:05 AM
J P Stein Stuff I think I know bout Titanium:
Expensive in ... Feb 5 2006, 09:48 AM
9146986 My guess is the raw material alone would cost abou... Feb 5 2006, 10:12 AM
Twystd1 Aw... You guys are to hard on the kid.... Feb 5 2006, 07:20 PM
MattR Feb 5 2006, 07:30 PM
URY914 Feb 5 2006, 08:38 PM
kwales Matt,
As an engineer, I've had some painful l... Feb 5 2006, 09:27 PM
kwales Gee thanks URY...
Love you too http://www.914world.com/bbs2... Feb 5 2006, 09:46 PM
URY914 Feb 5 2006, 10:27 PM
Cloudbuster Feb 5 2006, 10:28 PM
MattR http://www.914world.com/bbs2/htm... Feb 5 2006, 11:11 PM
MattR Feb 5 2006, 11:23 PM
Aaron Cox http://www.914world.com/bbs... Feb 5 2006, 11:42 PM
Twystd1 Note:
According to the boyz at shop talk forums..... Feb 6 2006, 12:42 AM
MattR Feb 6 2006, 12:45 AM
Mueller Feb 6 2006, 01:07 AM
Twystd1 Mike I don't have a clue.
But much like SCAT.... Feb 6 2006, 06:48 AM
Twystd1 Before I forget Mike,
Does your friend from China... Feb 6 2006, 06:52 AM
alpha434 Pictures from titanium project for vocational scho... Feb 6 2006, 11:23 AM
Mueller Feb 6 2006, 01:32 PM
alpha434 Carbide is the new thing with rings. I don't k... Feb 6 2006, 01:42 PM
Mueller <... Feb 6 2006, 01:56 PM
alpha434 Feb 6 2006, 01:58 PM
alpha434 C'mon. I'd never give up. Regardless of wh... Feb 6 2006, 10:19 PM
byndbad914 I'll see what I can do... it has been a long t... Feb 6 2006, 10:52 PM
alpha434 You're the best.
It took about three times a... Feb 6 2006, 11:18 PM
Porcharu Feb 7 2006, 01:47 AM
alpha434 Stay on topic! Coatings!!!
And ye... Feb 7 2006, 01:57 AM
alpha434 Progress update. Pictures!!! Feb 9 2006, 08:07 PM
alpha434 and Feb 9 2006, 08:08 PM
alpha434 and Feb 9 2006, 08:08 PM
Brian Mifsud One question I haven't seen anyone ask.. ..
A... Feb 9 2006, 09:04 PM
Mueller <... Feb 9 2006, 09:49 PM
lapuwali I think this is one of those cases where the buyer... Feb 9 2006, 09:55 PM
Twystd1 Alpha,
I am at my machinist friends shop right now... Feb 9 2006, 10:42 PM
alpha434 Damn. What is wrong with you guys?!? I'm d... Feb 10 2006, 01:45 AM
MattR <... Feb 10 2006, 01:59 AM
alpha434 Haha. And Matt. He's definately NOT a doucheba... Feb 10 2006, 02:01 AM
MattR ... Feb 10 2006, 02:04 AM
Twystd1 Alpha...
Ya can't bag on MattR.. he knows me... Feb 10 2006, 04:26 AM
Twystd1 By the way,
I was chatting with some of the 356 c... Feb 10 2006, 04:55 AM
Aaron Cox proceed with caution http://ww... Feb 10 2006, 10:38 AM
alpha434 <... Feb 10 2006, 01:42 PM
TimT Pankl Ti, Pauter, Stock
The Pankl rod is a consum... Feb 10 2006, 08:19 PM
TimT we all need a left hand monkey wrench Feb 10 2006, 08:20 PM
TimT This is the "parting line" of the coating... afte... Feb 10 2006, 08:23 PM
MattR Feb 10 2006, 08:54 PM
TimT Ya they are out of a car that raced at Le Mans Feb 10 2006, 08:57 PM
SGB fascinating. I feel like I'm in school again.... Feb 10 2006, 09:31 PM
MattR A quick google search... thats a TRG car? Do you ... Feb 10 2006, 09:53 PM
Twystd1 Alpha.
Try giving these guys a call.
These guys
... Feb 11 2006, 01:36 AM
alpha434 Hehe. The valve train is actually somewhat stock.
... Feb 11 2006, 03:55 AM
alpha434 If you're really serious about that stuff, the... Feb 11 2006, 04:01 AM
J P Stein ... Feb 11 2006, 10:38 AM
Thorshammer Maybe I am lost here but is the journey to build a... Feb 11 2006, 01:30 PM
Mueller ... Feb 11 2006, 02:52 PM
alpha434 ....has little criss-crosses in them..... ![]() ![]() |
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