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TerrySmith
post Dec 5 2012, 01:22 AM
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QUOTE(Dave_Darling @ Dec 4 2012, 10:46 PM) *

Yes, Rich is in Redwood City and he knows 914s possibly better than anyone else on the planet.

RMG is great, and they're in Sunnyvale. On the alleyway behind one of the go-go bars, actually.... Just off Mary and El Camino. They had a museum-grade 73 2-liter in there last month, doing a PPI for someone from Europe who wound up buying a different 914. I think it's out of your budget, but it sure was drool-worthy.

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Thank you. I will check them out.
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post Dec 5 2012, 01:33 AM
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QUOTE(Gint @ Dec 4 2012, 04:08 PM) *

QUOTE(dlkawashima @ Dec 4 2012, 11:43 AM) *

One thing I would seriously question is leaving the car outside.

(IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) totally.
I don't know if i would want to have a 914 if I had store it outside . I don't want to discourage you though. They sure are a blast to bomb around town in.


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Go for it! I store my 914 outside. It has 3 covers! CarKing fitted against the car, then a waterproof heavy-duty tarp, then a cheap generic cover over all that. We just got 8 inches of rain in 2 days w 50 mph gusts. My 914 is dry!

For $20k, lots of options! I'd choose a six-conversion to get more than 100HP. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)

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Well, it looks like I will need to do something to protect the car although, I grew up in Denver and the conditions in Sunnyvale are much less severe than Denver (or even Point Rayes).

Thanks all!
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post Dec 5 2012, 09:20 AM
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But for the 914, it seems like people prefer the dual carbs, correct? Are the Weber carbs more reliable, or do they provide more power, or??


In general: Stock FI ~= PEFI > Dual Carbs > Single Carb.

All 914-4s came with FI from the factory (the sixes came with carbs). The stock cam is optimized for FI so unless the engine internals are matched to the carbs, you'll lose power and drivability with them. The drivability of the single carb setup is not good due to the length of the intake runners...the vaporized fuel condenses in the runners.

That said, some of the FI parts (particularly the MPS) are rare/NLA. This makes them expensive and the FI won't work without them. That's why people convert to carbs 9 times out of 10...they either don't know how to troubleshoot and fix the FI or they can't get a part they need in a timely fashion.

Note that Chris Foley (a member/vendor on this site) has a solution to the #1 reason why MPS's fail.

Personally, I'd either look for a car with an engine built for carbs or an original engine with original FI. At your price point you should have to make 0 compromises.
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post Dec 5 2012, 06:27 PM
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With 20k? You can buy a super nice 914 for $10k.
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post Dec 5 2012, 08:00 PM
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If I were in the market for a nice 914, I'd do this:

Find a really nice $5-6 '73-'74 2.0.

Enjoy the car while I hunt for a really nice $5-6 911 Six engine.
Gather up the conversion parts.

Sell the 2.0 engine for $1500-2000 and do the conversion.

Enjoy!

$10-12k 914-6.

That's what I would do, If I were me...


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post Dec 5 2012, 09:31 PM
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If I were me...

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I'll throw this out there for the OP. This seems to be the 914 food chain (i.e. what you'll have to pay, top to bottom) assuming all cars are of equal condition. But as others have already said, condition should be a top priority:

1. 914-6 --> all years
2. 1974 2.0 Limited Edition
3. 1973-1974 2.0 (fully optioned models are most valuable)
4. 1976 2.0 (except in California, where it probably ranks near the bottom due to smog testing, many were loaded with options)
5. 1975 2.0 (BUB bumpers are an acquired taste)
6. 1972-1973 1.7 ('72 is transitional year, early cars' quirky details corrected)
7. 1974 1.8 (low horsepower but some prefer L-Jet)
8. 1970-1971 1.7 (anaconda seatbelts, stationary passenger seat, non-vent dash, tail shifter, 4-1/2" rims on cheapest examples)
9. 1975 1.8 (BUBBs and lowest horsepower equals lowest appeal)
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post Dec 6 2012, 11:33 PM
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This thread has turned into an excellent reference source with very specific answers to things I was wondering about. Great! thanks again.
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post Dec 6 2012, 11:43 PM
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QUOTE(Trekkor @ Dec 5 2012, 10:00 PM) *

If I were in the market for a nice 914, I'd do this:

Find a really nice $5-6 '73-'74 2.0.

Enjoy the car while I hunt for a really nice $5-6 911 Six engine.
Gather up the conversion parts.

Sell the 2.0 engine for $1500-2000 and do the conversion.

Enjoy!

$10-12k 914-6.

That's what I would do, If I were me...


KT


I can't argue with converting, but it will cost some coin.
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post Dec 7 2012, 01:53 AM
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OK, here are a couple for consideration:

Yellow

and

Burgundy

Anybody know anything about either of these?
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post Dec 7 2012, 02:08 AM
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Or this one?
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post Dec 7 2012, 06:37 AM
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QUOTE(TerrySmith @ Dec 7 2012, 03:08 AM) *

Or this one?


I'd pass on the burgundy one on ebay. It's at least 3 different colors...burgundy, black, and yellow (looks like the OE color).

The yellow one for sale here and pelican looks like a very nice car at a fair price, and you'd have lots of headroom in your budget to tweak or fix incidentals.

The 71 looks nice, but for your budget i'd hold out for a side shifter.
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post Dec 7 2012, 09:06 AM
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QUOTE(rwilner @ Dec 5 2012, 08:20 AM) *

QUOTE(TerrySmith @ Dec 5 2012, 01:43 AM) *


But for the 914, it seems like people prefer the dual carbs, correct? Are the Weber carbs more reliable, or do they provide more power, or??


In general: Stock FI ~= PEFI > Dual Carbs > Single Carb.

All 914-4s came with FI from the factory (the sixes came with carbs).


I believe there were some factory 4 cylinder Solex carb'd 914s sold in Europe.
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post Dec 7 2012, 09:56 AM
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Burgundy

Anybody know anything about either of these?


http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?sho...=getty&st=0


That yellow one is a beauty! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wub.gif)
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post Dec 8 2012, 11:59 AM
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I looked up values of 914 on the NADA site and WOW, were they high. A 73-74 was listed at low retail, $13,000, high retail at $22000. Where in the world do they get these figures from? I haven't seen any cars for sale at these kinds of prices. Any thoughts? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)
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post Dec 8 2012, 02:11 PM
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I looked up values of 914 on the NADA site and WOW, were they high. A 73-74 was listed at low retail, $13,000, high retail at $22000. Where in the world do they get these figures from? I haven't seen any cars for sale at these kinds of prices. Any thoughts? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)

I have.
I've seen several /4s go for $20+k
I've seen many /4s go for $13+k

But those are all low mileage cars that are in perfect condition. Not many of those out there.
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post Dec 8 2012, 03:39 PM
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I understand that price leval for a 914-6, but it did not give any model info in their price range. They must factored in the 914-6 cars with their price range. That really screws it up IMO, for the owners of ordinary 914's, or those looking for the same.
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I would take a good look at this car if I were you. That's pretty sweet for $10k.

914 in 914world classifieds
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post Dec 8 2012, 05:37 PM
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I have a nice one for sale. Rebuilt engine, all mechanics serviced, documentation for everything, nice interior, all original. http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=197510
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post Dec 26 2012, 09:25 PM
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Any updates TerrySmith?
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