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> Question:, Can you delete pop-up lights??
BuddyV
post Jun 29 2013, 11:25 PM
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If I was to remove a pair of pop-up lights and swap in a fiberglass hood that does not have the headlight cut-outs...... could you install lights in the fog light cut out ion the bumper with lights that would work well as headlights???

Street use.... although I almost never drive at night. I know this is done for race applications where the pop-up delete saves weight, etc. Just not sure it's a good idea for the street.

.... wondering because of a few opportunities that have presented themselves.

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post Jun 29 2013, 11:27 PM
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Not legally by DOT minimum height regulations.

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post Jun 30 2013, 12:12 AM
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In CA, the center of the headlight must be 22" off the ground. With that said, I drove for 1 year using only the driving lights after an accident damaged the right side pop up. It all depends on the police in your area.

On my current project, I have Nissan 240sx lights modified to fit in the pop up space. I'm not a fan of the look or drag created by the pop up lights.

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post Jun 30 2013, 01:17 AM
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Another option is headlights in the turn signal buckets, although I'm not sure how effective they are.

Check out the neo914-6 build:
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post Jun 30 2013, 09:34 AM
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Thanks all.... I really like the look of the pop-up delete hood...... HHmmm.....
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post Jun 30 2013, 12:33 PM
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I like the pop-up headlights. I always thought they were a unique part of the car. Not many new cars have them. The pop-up head lights are only exposed to the elements when they are being used.
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post Jun 30 2013, 12:37 PM
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YES- check this car for an idea- an ORIGINAL euro 914-6 GT now registered in CAlifornia

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fwiw - it would be a very slow day on the backroads that you'd ever get pulled over for a headlite height check

p.s. the driving lights in my GT front "bumper" are 5-14/ Hella 100-90W - also as installed in Germany

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post Jun 30 2013, 06:40 PM
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I'm not a fan of the look or drag created by the pop up lights.

I guess if you drive with the lights on all the time (not a bad idea). But typical daytime driving with the lights down has less drag than yours. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/poke.gif)

I always wanted to delete the popups on my first car. I wanted to do a turn signal bucket idea like Felix started. (Did he ever finish that car???)

Then later I came to appreciate the popups as a unique feature to the car and I would not rob that from a 914 again, no more than I would convert a Mercedes Gullwing to side-opening doors.
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post Jun 30 2013, 08:37 PM
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Saw this one last year at a Hot Rod magazine car show in CA last year

Brand of the lights was "Catz eyes" I think


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post Jul 5 2013, 12:33 PM
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Is there a source for the hoods without the headlight cutouts?
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post Jul 6 2013, 12:39 AM
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QUOTE(Grelber @ Jul 5 2013, 11:33 AM) *

Is there a source for the hoods without the headlight cutouts?

Try here. https://www.gt-racing.com/products-page/914-parts/page/2/
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post Jul 6 2013, 12:40 AM
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QUOTE(Elliot Cannon @ Jul 5 2013, 11:39 PM) *

QUOTE(Grelber @ Jul 5 2013, 11:33 AM) *

Is there a source for the hoods without the headlight cutouts?

Try here. https://www.gt-racing.com/products-page/914-parts/page/2/



Or here. http://www.qrsfiberglass.com/
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post Jul 6 2013, 01:05 AM
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QUOTE(Elliot Cannon @ Jun 30 2013, 11:33 AM) *

I like the pop-up headlights. I always thought they were a unique part of the car. Not many new cars have them. The pop-up head lights are only exposed to the elements when they are being used.


+1. I like the look of the car as built. There are some nice customs out there but I still think the original looks the best. I put OEM driving lights in place of the fog lamps. They were an unusual opportunity years ago when Pelican ran across a shipping container with many different parts. I use them at dusk but still pop up the headlights if driving at night.
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post Aug 8 2013, 11:17 PM
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I have been thinking about this mod, I like the pop up head lights but on most part want to shave some weight. Car will mainly be an autocross/ track car but neevr know when I might do a hot summer night cruise.

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post Nov 26 2013, 10:22 AM
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So... How much do the headlight buckets weight?
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post Nov 26 2013, 10:42 AM
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QUOTE(kg6dxn @ Jun 29 2013, 11:12 PM) *

I'm not a fan of the look or drag created by the pop up lights.

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If drag is a primary concern, wouldn't this mod create more drag than a smooth headlight cover? Ok, at night with the lights up that isn't the case but how often are you racing at night? Just curious.
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post Nov 26 2013, 01:33 PM
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has anyone considered doing something smaller like the rectangular lights on the slantnose Porsche? Thats the idea Ive had taking up space in my brain
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post Nov 26 2013, 02:54 PM
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My teener has been street driven like this for many years.
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I'm not a real fan of the pop-ups either. I envisioned lights in the turn signal buckets way back in the '70's, but there weren't really any options back then. Now days, there are a several options with halogen projectors and LEDs.

It's just too bad that the mod requires the headlight buckets to be removed for the front deck lid to fit properly ... otherwise just reinstalling the OEM lid and the headlight assemblies would take it back to original pretty easily.

I would do this mod to my '75, but our '71 will stay pretty much bone stock.
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post Nov 26 2013, 07:21 PM
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QUOTE(MoveQik @ Nov 26 2013, 08:42 AM) *

QUOTE(kg6dxn @ Jun 29 2013, 11:12 PM) *

I'm not a fan of the look or drag created by the pop up lights.


If drag is a primary concern, wouldn't this mod create more drag than a smooth headlight cover? Ok, at night with the lights up that isn't the case but how often are you racing at night? Just curious.

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