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> The neo914-6 Concept, the details...
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post Sep 2 2005, 02:03 AM
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neo914 purpose: An exercise in creative design, to promote the enthusiasm for the 914 and introduce new ideas, designs, and components not previously installed on a 914…

"neo" translates to "New" in German thus "neo914-6"

What would a 914-6 look like today? Imagine the character of the 914 we all “grew” to love retained in a modern version…

Design sketched 8/05:
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Car shown at SEMA 11/06:
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Original 914 design:
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post Sep 2 2005, 02:04 AM
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Let’s start with a great race prepared 914, with track success… (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smilie_pokal.gif)
Bill’s and Doris’ car

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post Sep 2 2005, 02:05 AM
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Add metal hand shaped flares by Metalshaper John Kelly and 18" diameter wheels.
See more details of John's work

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post Sep 2 2005, 02:10 AM
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Drivetrain candidates were: Audis, 996 w/G50, and even New BMW/Mini. I already did a domestic V8 conversion and it truly wouldn't fit this theme. Had my bid for a Cayenne V8 twin turbo motor been high enough, it would have had a great “cool” factor ala Rick Ollah's 928 "alien"! It would have also added at least a year in making it and the 4WD work...

I decided to maintain plausible factory constraints: Use Porsche / Audi / VW drive train parts as in the Cayenne's example:
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"The first V6 in any Porsche model"
While the engine block is sourced from Volkswagen, which is Porsche’s partner in the construction of the 2004 Cayenne’s unit-body chassis, the 15-degree, 3.2-liter V6 engine has been extensively reworked by Porsche engineers. They designed an entirely new intake system for the engine, with two overhead camshafts and continuously variable intake valve timing. They also reworked the exhaust system to provide the sound that immediately identifies the Cayenne as a true Porsche."

If this engine becomes "affordable" I'll see if it fits in the Neo914-6. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

Why not the Boxster or 996 engines? A local member and friend is doing a Boxster conversion with new rear suspension which requires fabrication beyond my abilities and schedule. He virtually cut out the whole rear trunk and suspension to make it fit. I was very close to chosing the Audi 1.8 turbo but another local club member, Sonu had already installed one. I chose the Audi 2.7L V6 twin turbo which directly bolts to the Boxster transaxle

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post Sep 2 2005, 02:16 AM
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This is what I chose to replace the classic Fuchs:
Techno 996 Wheels, they have lines similar to the unique 914 targa. In fact I will reform the targa trim to match a bit more…As much as I love the Boxster and Turbo twists, I think the "softness" of the wheel wasn't appropriate to this design.

Tech: 18" SportTechno One-piece alloy wheel featuring powerful yet lightweight hollow-spoke design technology giving a weight reduction of 25 % over conventional wheels. Hollow aluminum alloy spokes are inseparably fused to the rim using a patented friction welding process. Employs new surface treatment technology for even better looking wheels.


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post Sep 2 2005, 02:17 AM
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C U R R E N T S P E C I F I C A T I O N S:
Audi 2.7L V6 twin turbo engine, intercoolers, and ECU
Boxster 5 speed transaxle and B&M short shifter
Turbo and 911 axles, ? CV's
Braille Battery
993 pedal cluster with integral hydraulic cylinder
Moved steering column to align with seat and dash
18"x8" 996 SportTechno wheels
Pirelli Asymetrico tires 225/40 ZR 18
911 Front Struts / Konis / Vented Discs (5 lug)
Boxster brake calipers
27mm Front Adjustable Smart Racing Anti-Roll Bar
23mm Front Torsion Bars
Shine needle bearings
914 Rear Vented Discs (5 lug)
Rebuilt and powdercoated trailing arms by Roaster fan (Jim)
Rear MSDS ebrake (debut at the SEMA) pending
Mueller needle bearing, PMB v-caliper, stock pads
18"x11" 996 SportTechno wheels
Pirelli Asymetrico tires 295/30 ZR 18
Rear Bilstein Struts/ Shocks
Adjustable rear spring perches
15mm Stock Anti-Roll Bar Rear
350lb/sqin Eibach Rear Coil Springs
911 19mm Master Cylinder
Cockpit Adjustable Brake Bias Valve
986/996 dual radiators assemblies
Audi instrument panel
Power steering - planned
Audi climate control
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post Sep 2 2005, 02:17 AM
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D E S I G N F E A T U R E S:
Hella DE HID headlights mounted in the signal pods
Hella DE fog lamps mounted in the bumper
Signal light rear view SPA type mirrors
Single piece side windows, electric
Windshield with painted border and rubber trim
Shortened tail lamps to allow a wider rear wing spoiler that’s retractable when idle
Molded front bumper with dual inlets for the Boxster radiators
Intercooler placement and air management
Recaro GT3 seat , fixed passenger seat to match , moved steering colum
Porsche Design steering wheel
Boxster spare tire and tool kit
Porsche Design gas cap accessible at hood , 993 filler
Getty Carbon Fiber rear deck lid with J-West adj hinges
Renspeed Fiberglass full front hood with gas fill opening
Elise type soft roll top
formed hard top, more curvature
914 & Audi owners manual
"dealer" sticker
Auto diming and map light rear view mirror
Sound/video/Nav system
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post Sep 2 2005, 02:33 AM
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B O D Y D E S I G N:

Neo914, John Kelly rear flares
Andyrew front flares part one
MarkD front flares, part two
Molded rocker panels with intercooler inlets
Molded bumpers
Targa trim
Top
Tail lamps
Articulating spoiler -
Single arm wiper
Logos
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post Sep 3 2005, 06:21 AM
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(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/smilie_pokal.gif) Me likes sketch! Now, how do I get rid of you and take over???
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post Sep 3 2005, 11:37 AM
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QUOTE (scotty b @ Sep 3 2005, 04:21 AM)
(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/smilie_pokal.gif) Me likes sketch! Now, how do I get rid of you and take over???

I revealed 90% of the details so go for it! (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif)
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post Sep 3 2005, 12:42 PM
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Wowsers!!! Simply amazing.

I love the design, everything flows well.

I must say I love the rocker pannels. Do you plan on building them yourself? That design is awesome and I'd love to be able to make some for myself.

BTW.
Tomorrow im dedicating the day to your flares. I should get the pass side done, and depending on how I like the drivers side, possibly that one as well.

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post Sep 3 2005, 01:10 PM
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Felix,

It looks as if the front bumper is a cross between a 916 and early GT style chrome one. Is this your insperation? Looks great.
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post Sep 3 2005, 02:35 PM
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QUOTE (Brent @ Sep 3 2005, 11:10 AM)
Felix,

It looks as if the front bumper is a cross between a 916 and early GT style chrome one. Is this your insperation? Looks great.
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Brent, the intent is:
-allow for some form development that continues from the hood and fenders
-eliminate the rubber top dictated by the 70's DOT or TUV regs. Did they really think it would soften the harm to a person's limbs?
-retain some metal chrome finish so it is not just another plastic cap and give a sense of strength and retro-styling
-give some importance to the radiator intakes "bezel"
-retain the stock valance, I like the torsion bar "bumps"
-continue with a radius on the bottom edge of the car with the rockers to give more curvature to the body, an air dam or side skirts would have eliminated this.

IMHO

Happy bday "Seve"! just dropped my daughter off at a bday... (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/birthday.gif)
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post Sep 3 2005, 02:41 PM
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Felix, the design in your drawing looks great, looks powerful and purposeful! Just plain bad ass!
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post Sep 3 2005, 02:51 PM
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QUOTE (Andyrew @ Sep 3 2005, 10:42 AM)
Wowsers!!! Simply amazing.

I love the design, everything flows well.

I must say I love the rocker pannels. Do you plan on building them yourself? That design is awesome and I'd love to be able to make some for myself.

BTW.
Tomorrow im dedicating the day to your flares.  I should get the pass side done, and depending on how I like the drivers side, possibly that one as well.

Andrew

Thanks Andrew I'm looking forward to them, Sept 24 is coming fast...

The radius will be done by a sheet metal HVAC shop, the transitions to the flares will be a challenge. I will mock it up in urethane and probably take it to a metalshaper. I also need to position the intercoolers to see if they will get enough airflow.

The rear features will be trick too, stay tuned...
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post Sep 3 2005, 03:24 PM
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great stuff Felix...keep it coming please (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/beer.gif)
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Kewl stuff.

Hey speaking of fenders, I still have one for you from McMark. Need it anytime soon?

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WOW, what a project! I will follow it closely as I've got the S4 with the 2.7T and can't wait to see/hear what that is like in a 914.

One technicality on your parts list though - you won't be able to use the "S" calipers with the 911T struts. Actually if it were me, I'd probably go to bigger brakes like 930 or Boxster monoblocks or something. If you chip the ECU the car will be a torque monster and stopping ability=good.

Keep us posted as the thoughts flow! (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/pray.gif)
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Felix, very sweet. The front bumper looks like it will be amazing! As well as the rest of the car. You are our Foose buddy...keep it going!

(ps. Waiting for the Avatar to change with Seve's pic in it. Will keep his pic there for this month. He said thanks for the Bday wishes. We just got back from the Jungle in Saratoga. He is always over my shoulder reading the forum with me.)
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post Sep 4 2005, 10:31 AM
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QUOTE(campbellcj @ Sep 3 2005, 05:59 PM) *

WOW, what a project! I will follow it closely as I've got the S4 with the 2.7T and can't wait to see/hear what that is like in a 914.

One technicality on your parts list though - you won't be able to use the "S" calipers with the 911T struts. Actually if it were me, I'd probably go to bigger brakes like 930 or Boxster monoblocks or something. If you chip the ECU the car will be a torque monster and stopping ability=good.

Keep us posted as the thoughts flow! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/pray.gif)


I believe they are currently 911, are the s-calipers spaced differently? Brake choices are still open but I have this nice set of rebuilt s-calipers...

Stock ECU will do for now but when it gets to that purchase point I will consider stand-alone engine management.

Thanks!
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