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post Feb 10 2015, 08:16 PM
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Hi all. I'm new to this forum and to 914s. I'm seriously interested in purchasing a 914 LE. I live in New Zealand and would like to get one shipped here. Due to costs and time involved in shipping to NZ the car I purchase will be a keeper for many years.
I don't have the time to recondition one so would like to purchase one that is in very good condition. Can any one please tell me how much I could expect to pay for a very good condition LE as I have no idea. I'm happy to wait for several months or more for a LE to come up for sale.
Thanks in advance.
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post Apr 8 2015, 01:14 PM
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This is like a fishing trip, gill nets were outlawed to save the unsuspecting but as you can see catching tuna on a line can still be done but at what cost.

I know of two LE's that have sold recently in the 15-20k range. One was a driver/repaint and the other was a full resto to the nines. numbers matching/ COA cars with clean non salvage titles. If your going for original then those items are key in getting top dollar!!!

Anything less will require a few current sales and knowing how correct the cars were.
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post Apr 8 2015, 01:17 PM
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QUOTE(Socalandy @ Apr 8 2015, 03:14 PM) *

This is like a fishing trip, gill nets were outlawed to save the unsuspecting but as you can see catching tuna on a line can still be done but at what cost.

I know of two LE's that have sold recently in the 15-20k range. One was a driver/repaint and the other was a full resto to the nines. numbers matching/ COA cars with clean non salvage titles. If your going for original then those items are key in getting top dollar!!!

Anything less will require a few current sales and knowing how correct the cars were.

That's a hell of a deal. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beer.gif)
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post Apr 8 2015, 01:20 PM
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QUOTE(tumamilhem @ Apr 8 2015, 02:50 PM) *

QUOTE(billh1963 @ Apr 8 2015, 01:00 PM) *

I say put up or shut up (in other words quit the hype).

You aren't dealing with million dollar Ferrari's here. If someone has actually offered you money then post what they offered. No one is asking what you paid.

That's an extreme. Of course not a million dollars. Even a new 918 isn't that much. We're not insinuating that.



Then, what are your numbers? Let's hear what offers are being made.

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Exactly. And because there is relatively no market for them to compare to because factory (not fake knock-offs) are rare and even more rarely sold.


They are being sold...

You bought yours from JRust on this forum. Others have been sold on here as well.

I posted a Bumblebee I passed on a year or so ago

One sold on ebay the other day (under $10K IIRC).

Donald rescued one from a pick and pull around a year ago.

These things aren't like Ferrari 250 GTO's or other ultra rare exotica that change hands privately.

So....what have you been offered? Inquiring minds want to know (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)



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post Apr 8 2015, 01:33 PM
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With respect, I'm not comfortable posting the offers because I do not think those who made the offers would appreciate making their offers public. If I am not (or on the fence) of selling my car, it would not be fair to them. I would respect their privacy. But I did indicate already what I could purchase with the offer made. That should give a ballpark.
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post Apr 8 2015, 01:34 PM
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Rare, rare rare....if rarity is the only factor in determining value, then my '75 1.8 should be WAY up there on the value scale. Smaller production numbers than any other 4cyl(except that damned LE). Less than 2500 ever made. Crap....why the hell did I butcher my classic and make it a six???? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/lol-2.gif) The 73 2 liter is the 2nd highest production 914 ever made and it is considered the one to buy(sans the six). So there is more to it than rarity.

Even if Johnny's car wasn't an LE, it is a top tier car that should(and would) command big $$. Not because of the rarity of the LE but because of the condition, documentation, numbers matching, clean title and so on, IMHO.

While I would certainly never suggest that being an LE does not add value, I think that value can(and has been) be easily exaggerated. Saying it is worth three 73 2.0's?? C'mon.... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
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post Apr 8 2015, 01:36 PM
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QUOTE(tumamilhem @ Apr 8 2015, 03:33 PM) *

With respect, I'm not comfortable posting the offers because I do not think those who made the offers would appreciate making their offers public. If I am not (or on the fence) of selling my car, it would not be fair to them. I would respect their privacy. But I did indicate already what I could purchase with the offer made. That should give a ballpark.



Bullsh!t I'm not asking you to name names
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post Apr 8 2015, 01:36 PM
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A few years back, 5 or 6 I think, King George sold one of his restored Creamsicles; I think it was even listed on evilbay. I'm pretty sure he was asking over $20k for it, maybe close to $30k. Made sense because of the amount of coin put into the restoration & it was numbers matching. Does anyone remember this & what it sold for?
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post Apr 8 2015, 01:38 PM
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QUOTE(MoveQik @ Apr 8 2015, 03:34 PM) *

Rare, rare rare....if rarity is the only factor in determining value, then my '75 1.8 should be WAY up there on the value scale. Smaller production numbers than any other 4cyl(except that damned LE). Less than 2500 ever made. Crap....why the hell did I butcher my classic and make it a six???? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/lol-2.gif) The 73 2 liter is the 2nd highest production 914 ever made and it is considered the one to buy(sans the six). So there is more to it than rarity.

Even if Johnny's car wasn't an LE, it is a top tier car that should(and would) command big $$. Not because of the rarity of the LE but because of the condition, documentation, numbers matching, clean title and so on, IMHO.

While I would certainly never suggest that being an LE does not add value, I think that value can(and has been) be easily exaggerated. Saying it is worth three 73 2.0's?? C'mon.... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)



I agree. I have two Ferrari Mondial coupes...an '86 3.2 and an '88 3.2

I don't have the exact numbers in front of me right now; however, there were less than 30 coupes imported to the US in 1986 and maybe a few more in 1988. They are very rare. Rarity does not, unfortunately, equate to value.
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It's still about condition and originality. That's why RFoulds got $40k for an unrestored 914 in perfect condition and an amateur restore LE with damage title and non matching engine and trans went for mid teens. Those are sold prices so that's their price until they or something just like them are sold again.


I'd offer moveqik $80 for his car but collecting on it might be a challenge. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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QUOTE(mepstein @ Apr 8 2015, 12:47 PM) *

I'd offer moveqik $80 for his car but collecting on it might be a challenge. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

Awesome! I'm adding "I HAVE OFFERS OF $80K FOR MY CAR!!!" to my signature.

I take checks. Wait.....never mind. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)
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post Apr 8 2015, 01:57 PM
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QUOTE(tumamilhem @ Apr 8 2015, 12:33 PM) *

With respect, I'm not comfortable posting the offers because I do not think those who made the offers would appreciate making their offers public. If I am not (or on the fence) of selling my car, it would not be fair to them. I would respect their privacy. But I did indicate already what I could purchase with the offer made. That should give a ballpark.


No names mentioned if you posted it so your dodging for one reason or another and not helping the original poster one bit. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/WTF.gif)
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Really good mid year 2.0 are selling $20k-ish (close to double that if you sell to Europe). The 86-88 Carreras are starting to climb but up here at least you can still find pretty decent ones for under $30k.

Are you saying you were offered $60k - $90k for your car? Really?
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Not affiliated, for sale right now on the evilbay. Current bid is $4349.00 & reserve has not been met:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Porsche-914-LE-/201322070757

A bit rough & not numbers matching. Sale ends today.

Another one for sale on evilbay right now, again not affiliated. This one has been for sale for a while, is also listed on Hemmings & is in pretty good condition but is not numbers matching.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Porsche-914-Limite...em=221733011392
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lol just post the offers without names. It's not harming anyone and you'll answer the guys post which should have happened 5 pages ago.
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QUOTE(MDG @ Apr 8 2015, 11:08 AM) *

I agree. And the cool thing with some of the cars on here (LE's or otherwise) is this very site provides incredible documentation. In the case of someone like Al's car, there's a decade worth of info here on 914World on an original owner car which can only further the value.



Well this is true of most cars on here, but I know of at least 2 threads that are no longer with us that future buyers won't have the luxury of reading, both had LE cars in them. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/bs.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/happy11.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/stirthepot.gif)

This LE if numbers matching must be worth a lot even in its current condition? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sawzall-smiley.gif)
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QUOTE(billh1963 @ Apr 8 2015, 12:36 PM) *

Bullsh!t

Of course it's BS. Tommy is having a good laugh over this, I'm sure. But you guys keep playing along ... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/happy11.gif)

The highest priced 4-cylinder 914s that I've seen sold have been in the $30,000 to $35,000 range. Most were 2-liters, nearly 100% original (including paint), mint condition and very low mileage. One was a '75 1.8, supposedly with under 5,000 original miles.
I don't know if an LE has *sold* for over $35,000 but I seem to recall one guy had two or three Bumblebees that were consecutive in sequence or very nearly so, and he wanted big money for them.

From what I've seen, the Can-Am cars DO sell for a premium over the more pedestrian 2-liters, but the difference is small ... perhaps $3,000 to $5,000 at best. Condition trumps all.
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QUOTE(G e o r g e @ Apr 8 2015, 05:02 PM) *

This LE if numbers matching must be worth a lot even in its current condition? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sawzall-smiley.gif)

(IMG:style_emoticons/default/stromberg.gif) This just made my stomach very upset.


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QUOTE(MDG @ Apr 8 2015, 01:18 PM) *

I saw a cross post on Eric's FB page of a post Tommy made where he said the offer on his LE was high enough that he could have purchased THREE very nice '73-'74 2.0 914's... or one of those 914's AND a late 80's Carrera.

Seems like a big number to me but I don't know......

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I saw that too. And as someone looking for an LE I nearly passed out!! Say it ain't so!

from Eric Sheeah's FB page:

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QUOTE(dlkawashima @ Apr 8 2015, 05:27 PM) *
... I don't know if an LE has *sold* for over $35,000 but I seem to recall one guy had two or three Bumblebees that were consecutive in sequence or very nearly so, and he wanted big money for them ...

That guy is here in Knoxville. He had (2) consecutive numbered Bumble Bees in very nice condition that reportedly sold for $60k (the pair) to someone out in California. This was 5+ years ago IIRC.

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QUOTE(Socalandy @ Apr 8 2015, 03:57 PM) *

QUOTE(tumamilhem @ Apr 8 2015, 12:33 PM) *

With respect, I'm not comfortable posting the offers because I do not think those who made the offers would appreciate making their offers public. If I am not (or on the fence) of selling my car, it would not be fair to them. I would respect their privacy. But I did indicate already what I could purchase with the offer made. That should give a ballpark.


No names mentioned if you posted it so your dodging for one reason or another and not helping the original poster one bit. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/WTF.gif)

I'm not dodging. The original poster privately messaged me after posting this thread and we discussed it.
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