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why no turbo 914's out there? |
Next GenRacing |
Jan 7 2006, 01:59 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 13 Joined: 6-September 04 From: Utah Member No.: 2,701 |
i am relatively new to the 914 scene, but i am curious as to why there is no turbo'd 914's out there, at least none that i could find.
the main problem i can see is the heat, but couldn't this be overcome with a front mount oil cooler? i am experienced in turbo theorys as well as built 3 different turbo cars (from NA to turbo) let me know if there is something i am missing here? Danny |
Bleyseng |
Jan 7 2006, 02:09 PM
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Aircooled Baby! Group: Members Posts: 13,034 Joined: 27-December 02 From: Seattle, Washington (for now) Member No.: 24 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
There are a few out there mostly 1.7l's as the 2.0l suffer from blowby due to the thin sealing surface between heads and the cylinders.
SammyG made a 2.0l turbo that was blowthru sold it and Mark L had then sold it and the motor was made NA again BenM has one in Eastern Wa thats a 1.7l with Kjet on it, runs good EJM had one back east and has sold it, 1.7l Jenny's brother had a 2.0L djet one that shot 3 ft flames out the tailpipe when shifting, he loved to race people haha. Think its dead right now There are no kits at the time but Jake is working on a new setup to solve the head sealing issue. The more boost you apply the quicker the heads/cylinders fail at this time if larger than 90mm (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/burnout.gif) |
fuch toy |
Jan 7 2006, 02:09 PM
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Because you can't turbo a 914
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JoeSharp |
Jan 7 2006, 02:09 PM
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In Irvine, Ca. May 15-18 Group: Members Posts: 3,947 Joined: 9-July 03 From: DeLand, Florida Member No.: 898 Region Association: South East States |
I can't HELP myself. Everybodyknowsyoucan'tturboateener. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif)
Several club members have turboed cars. airsix, imchappy, Marty at MSDS built kits for it in the 70's. There a few turboed cars around. :PERMAGRIN: Joe |
seanery |
Jan 7 2006, 02:11 PM
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waiting to rebuild whitey! Group: Retired Admin Posts: 15,852 Joined: 7-January 03 From: Indy Member No.: 100 Region Association: None |
there are a couple of turbo'd -6 owners in the club, too.
I know of 3. |
Bleyseng |
Jan 7 2006, 02:14 PM
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Aircooled Baby! Group: Members Posts: 13,034 Joined: 27-December 02 From: Seattle, Washington (for now) Member No.: 24 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
here's a turbo 914 (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/rocking nana.gif)
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TimT |
Jan 7 2006, 02:18 PM
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retired Group: Members Posts: 4,033 Joined: 18-February 03 From: Wantagh, NY Member No.: 313 |
Rich Clewett has a turbo 914/6 i believe
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seanery |
Jan 7 2006, 02:21 PM
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waiting to rebuild whitey! Group: Retired Admin Posts: 15,852 Joined: 7-January 03 From: Indy Member No.: 100 Region Association: None |
yup, it's sweet!
Rich Clewett Marty Chappy all have turbo 6s. |
VegasRacer |
Jan 7 2006, 02:34 PM
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ELVIRA Group: Benefactors Posts: 8,504 Joined: 27-March 03 From: Between Scylla and Charybdis Member No.: 481 Region Association: None |
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Kerrys914 |
Jan 7 2006, 02:35 PM
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Dear, the parts I just sold paid for that part ;) Group: Members Posts: 1,568 Joined: 26-December 02 From: Williamsburg, VA Member No.: 16 |
Don't forget the nicest 914 turbo of ALL....HANDS DOWN. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/smilie_pokal.gif) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/smilie_pokal.gif) The one Ed V. built and is now owned by John I. in PA.
This car is sweet and very well thought out. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/driving.gif) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/driving.gif) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/aktion035.gif) Best of luck |
Cap'n Krusty |
Jan 7 2006, 02:37 PM
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Cap'n Krusty Group: Members Posts: 10,794 Joined: 24-June 04 From: Santa Maria, CA Member No.: 2,246 Region Association: Central California |
Otto ran a home made 914/6 turbo at the first parade in Monterey and VERY nearly beat Bill Yates for FTD in the Parade Driving Event. The Cap'n
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Mueller |
Jan 7 2006, 02:45 PM
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914 Freak! Group: Members Posts: 17,146 Joined: 4-January 03 From: Antioch, CA Member No.: 87 Region Association: None |
for most people it's easier or more cost effective to install a /6 engine....like mentioned above, there are a few turbo /4's and /6's running around... currently there are no kits available brand new and of the few that had been available during the 70's and 80's, not many had been sold or installed..... with the advent of cheaper affordable programable electronic fuel injection/ignition control, a few more people have been installing turbos onto thier 914's I've been a little sidetracked for the last few months, but I am attempting a turbo install on my 1.8 /4 motor Muellers YCTA914 project |
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tat2dphreak |
Jan 7 2006, 02:58 PM
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stoya, stoya, stoya Group: Benefactors Posts: 8,797 Joined: 6-June 03 From: Wylie, TX Member No.: 792 Region Association: Southwest Region |
where's the car? |
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dmenche914 |
Jan 7 2006, 03:05 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,212 Joined: 27-February 03 From: California Member No.: 366 |
Turbos and Hooters, this is a eye candy thread! More photos Please!
The book "Turbomania " by Bob Tomlinson, (published by CB Reformance, order thru them) has a couple photos of a 914 turbo. It was a kit sold by Bernie Bergman, pg 71. This book is really good for aircooled turbo info, and good for a general understanding of turbos, I learned a lot from it. It is most all Type I VW stuff, but does have other info. it is an older book, and as Mike Mueller pointed out, there is a lot of knew stuff with EFI, and such. This book is more old school carb set ups, but the info contained, with knowledge or modern engine managment stystems added, one could build an even better 914 Turbo form one of the old kits. Page 71 has a good photo of the entire turbo unit installed on a 914 engine and transmission laying on the floor, it gives a clear view of ALL the plumbing that was used. The turbo itself located passenger side of the tranny, about mid way between rear of CV axles and back of tranny. Frankly I would add a snorkle to get cool intake air into the thing. This pictured set up has the air cleaner inlet next to the turbo, above the heat exchangers! Hot set up in more ways than one! More photos!!!! |
rpmmaxxed |
Jan 7 2006, 03:22 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 387 Joined: 24-May 05 From: Oceanside, CA Member No.: 4,140 Region Association: Southern California |
I'm waitin for someone to do a full "DIY, HOW TO" writeup so I can duplicate it...
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Bleyseng |
Jan 7 2006, 03:58 PM
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Aircooled Baby! Group: Members Posts: 13,034 Joined: 27-December 02 From: Seattle, Washington (for now) Member No.: 24 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
hmmm
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Bleyseng |
Jan 7 2006, 04:00 PM
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Aircooled Baby! Group: Members Posts: 13,034 Joined: 27-December 02 From: Seattle, Washington (for now) Member No.: 24 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
find one of these on ebay
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silversprint |
Jan 7 2006, 04:16 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 70 Joined: 22-November 05 From: Temecula, Ca Member No.: 5,172 |
A 2.1L turbo-4 built by Car Craft in riverside in the 'mid 90s. I bought it cheap. It sat in storage for several years. I have just recently started to put it back together again only to find rusted floor and rear firewall. So the motor will get swapped into a new chassis I just purchased. Not sure yet, put I may just return to motor to NA. Don't really like cutting the trunk floor.
A very basic setup with no intercooling. Not very clean but seems to work well. (IMG:http://www.safie.com/_911/914trunkbay.jpg) |
Bleyseng |
Jan 7 2006, 04:17 PM
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Aircooled Baby! Group: Members Posts: 13,034 Joined: 27-December 02 From: Seattle, Washington (for now) Member No.: 24 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
floor pans is easy to replace!
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nein14 |
Jan 7 2006, 04:22 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 838 Joined: 6-February 03 From: USA Member No.: 262 |
here you go
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