budman5201
Apr 1 2010, 09:49 PM
First pics of my EZ30R engine with 1000 miles total!
Now to take out the Ej20 turbo this weekend and see if the new engine can fit on the renegade engine cradle!
budman5201
Apr 1 2010, 09:50 PM
one more on stand
TravisNeff
Apr 1 2010, 10:09 PM
Nice!
DBCooper
Apr 1 2010, 10:14 PM
VERY nice! I can't wait to see how this turns out.
GS Guy
Apr 2 2010, 05:31 AM
I've long thought that would be the ultimate "6" conversion.
Looking forward to the progress thread.
Now all it needs is an IR EFI intake system to complete the look!
Zaney
Apr 2 2010, 11:51 AM
I missed if this Six is going to be N/A or turboed?
Porcharu
Apr 2 2010, 01:03 PM
How about a side view pic so we can see the oil pan. Is this the engine with 1 big exhaust port or 3?
TwinTurbo914
Apr 2 2010, 01:14 PM
QUOTE(Porcharu @ Apr 2 2010, 11:03 AM)
How about a side view pic so we can see the oil pan. Is this the engine with 1 big exhaust port or 3?
It should be a three port engine, due to the composite intake, the earlier engines didn't have variable cam timing or valve lift, and had aluminum intakes.
budman5201
Apr 2 2010, 09:45 PM
EJ20 is out finally!
Yes it is the 3 Port Exhaust, not one.
Its going to be N/A, check out the oil pan, save depth down as Ej20, but obviously different.
Just ordered the Motor mounts(different than Ej20) from ebay yesterday, so i'll be trying to fit this baby into the Renegade Mount next week.
Stock Subaru Engine wiring Plugs also ordered, so this wiring will be clean! Should plug right into the 2 square electrical plugs on the engine.
Going to be Dual exhaust, and I am making the header, so you guys can see my Tig Welding, I think I am way better at it now.
budman5201
Apr 2 2010, 09:46 PM
side
budman5201
Apr 2 2010, 09:47 PM
Underneath....hey also if anyone knows...Why doesnt this Engine have a fuel return line? They all dead end into the injectors equally with no return. Have to figure out how to hook this up.
Mike Bellis
Apr 2 2010, 11:14 PM
My Dodge V10 has no return line either. It uses a 45psi pump to the 45psi injectors. The pump has an internal bypass to "dead head" the fuel during idle.
Dr Evil
Apr 3 2010, 12:21 AM
Awesome! I have been wanting to do that conversion since I learned about the engine when it came out. It is the only redeeming quality of the nast looking Tribeca
Gint
Apr 3 2010, 11:41 AM
Sweet! Disregard my question in the "best conversion" thread.
jasons
Apr 3 2010, 12:14 PM
Looks good! Do you get the motors locally?
MoveQik
Apr 3 2010, 12:22 PM
Very nice. That car is going to be a rocket. Get it done in time for coffee next month!
FourBlades
Apr 3 2010, 01:15 PM
That is a beautiful engine.
What kind of HP and torque does it make?
John
Wannabe 914-6 owner
Apr 3 2010, 10:43 PM
QUOTE(Dr Evil @ Apr 2 2010, 11:21 PM)
Awesome! I have been wanting to do that conversion since I learned about the engine when it came out. It is the only redeeming quality of the nast looking Tribeca
Nasty looking????? My wifes 06, sorry about the cell phone pics
Dr Evil
Apr 3 2010, 10:53 PM
Its ugly, particularly the rear....
budman5201
Apr 4 2010, 01:32 AM
I can get the Ej20s local, but this one I got lucky... I got this UNBELIEVEABLE deal on ebay. 5 minutes after it was posted....ready for this deal??.........$1100 + $150 shipping from CA to AZ! I know!!!! holy crap! I hit buy it now SO FAST!
The computer is going to cost me $2200 itself! But considering these engines usually go for $4000 in this condition, its worth the expensive computer.
Actually i was WAY wrong on the HP #'s. My eJ20 Turbo motor put out 252 hp, but this was at the wheels! My new N/A Ez30R puts out 250 hp, but thats at the crank, so about 30 Hp lower. But who says i wont put a nice simple, 50 hp Nos Jet in it. (my enventual plan) Gotta keep that Hp the same, too fun!
Weight came in at 315 lbs, measured today. The Ej20 is about 40 lbs lighter.
Just figured out where all the wires go, still waiting on factory male end of the engine plugs to arrrive in the mail.
Wannabe 914-6 owner
Apr 4 2010, 08:52 AM
pktzygt
Apr 4 2010, 11:38 AM
It's a Tribeca. But it's also fugly on the inside. Perrin had turbo'd that motor though.
budman5201
Apr 5 2010, 06:09 PM
WOW! doesnt that EZ30R look like it was made for that engine bay?? FITS like a glove!
Renegade Hybrids Engine Cradle works with this engine also, lines right up with motor mount position.
See pics. It will be about 1.5 inch higher in engine bay. Still waiting on motor mounts, temporary smaller spacer in place of mounts.
This is just a mock up, Have to pull back out to put flywheel on. (being resurfaced)
budman5201
Apr 5 2010, 06:10 PM
another
budman5201
Apr 5 2010, 06:10 PM
look at all that space around throttle body!
budman5201
Apr 5 2010, 06:11 PM
as i stated earlier, engine will be about 1.5 inch higher, but look at where it is now. NOT bad. When mounts come in I think it will be perfect!
budman5201
Apr 5 2010, 06:12 PM
on cradle
budman5201
Apr 5 2010, 06:38 PM
Here is a pic of where the motor mount lines up, waiting on mount to come in mail
budman5201
Apr 5 2010, 06:43 PM
side clearance
budman5201
Apr 5 2010, 06:44 PM
passenger side clearance
Dr Evil
Apr 6 2010, 01:07 AM
Friggen awesome
Just as I had imagined it. You got a smoking deal on that engine. I hope the price comes down in the next few years so I can afford to do one of theses
That looks like it will be a screamer alright and looks pretty nice too! Just wondering, do you plan on fabing some tin to seperate the upper engine comp from the lower?
Tom
budman5201
Apr 6 2010, 02:32 AM
QUOTE(Tom @ Apr 6 2010, 12:36 AM)
That looks like it will be a screamer alright and looks pretty nice too! Just wondering, do you plan on fabing some tin to seperate the upper engine comp from the lower?
Tom
No I don't think so. In fact I'm going to try to get rid of most of the leftover engine shelf in there. Less weight the better.
jasons
Apr 6 2010, 07:22 AM
QUOTE(budman5201 @ Apr 6 2010, 01:32 AM)
No I don't think so. In fact I'm going to try to get rid of most of the leftover engine shelf in there. Less weight the better.
That fit is great! I was under my project car last night grinding welds, thinking that you should get rid of all that unnecessary sheet metal. It would really clean up the engine bay.
Porcharu
Apr 6 2010, 02:14 PM
Yes cut the unneeded sheet metal out - that stuff is sharp and will cut you up every time you work on the engine. Will look a lot better to boot.
budman5201
Apr 6 2010, 04:59 PM
Fits like a glove. Stock Subaru mounts fit right into the holes of the renegade mount. Only mod was to made the holes slightly wider on the mount where the mount bolt comes through. The 3.0 liter mount had the 2 studs on the mount a little closer together. But same angle, and slipped right into the 2.0 mount location! Sweet!
budman5201
Apr 6 2010, 05:00 PM
The oil Pan is Perfect. Great clearance !
budman5201
Apr 6 2010, 05:00 PM
side view
budman5201
Apr 6 2010, 05:02 PM
final position of intake, yep slight mod needed to rear firewall, but maybe i might be able to slip a 90 degree Coupler in there.
I like that you can see the Spider intake real well.
Andyrew
Apr 6 2010, 05:30 PM
Reminds me of the 928 intake. Cool!
Gary
Apr 6 2010, 08:45 PM
If anyone in the PNW wants to follow budman's lead, I'll offer moral support:
CL ad for SVX conversion motor.
scotty
Apr 6 2010, 09:11 PM
Dear Subaru,
Some friends of mine have this idea for a new production car...
budman5201
Apr 6 2010, 09:14 PM
Oh stay away from those 3.3 s. They are heavy and only put out 200 or so hp. I bet my engine is 50 lbs lighter.
EdwardBlume
Apr 6 2010, 11:01 PM
I need to drive a bad ass Subi conversion.. it sure sounds / looks good...
camaroz1985
Apr 7 2010, 09:00 AM
Can you flip the intake and move the alternator so you don't have to cut the rear firewall?
budman5201
Apr 7 2010, 09:18 AM
QUOTE(camaroz1985 @ Apr 7 2010, 08:00 AM)
Can you flip the intake and move the alternator so you don't have to cut the rear firewall?
yep i think you can, but I need A/C in Arizona. Thats where the compressor goes.
budman5201
Apr 7 2010, 10:00 PM
Quick mockup of header, will redo in quality steel. Just tack welded for a fitment through engine cradle..
Using a 3-1 flat collector from STBEXHAUST.com for the exit
budman5201
Apr 7 2010, 10:01 PM
rear without collector yet (using this FMC one)
camaroz1985
Apr 8 2010, 07:09 AM
QUOTE(budman5201 @ Apr 7 2010, 11:18 AM)
QUOTE(camaroz1985 @ Apr 7 2010, 08:00 AM)
Can you flip the intake and move the alternator so you don't have to cut the rear firewall?
yep i think you can, but I need A/C in Arizona. Thats where the compressor goes.
I see, but you don't need power steering. I'm sure you could figure out how to move the alternator over there. Or just cut the fire wall if you are ok with that.
atsealevel914
Apr 8 2010, 10:55 AM
QUOTE(budman5201 @ Apr 6 2010, 07:14 PM)
Oh stay away from those 3.3 s. They are heavy and only put out 200 or so hp. I bet my engine is 50 lbs lighter.
They put out 230 hp and are lighter than a porsche six.
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