Decided it would be best to start a new thread here in the Garage for keeping track of proposed participants for these.

Make sure to post your preference in COLOR for the Taco Plate(s) and Tuna Can(s) (BLACK or SILVER) ...
BLUE NO LONGER AVAILABLE

ALSO, post your Shipping Preference (Individual or Group)

... and if you want to order gaskets from Chris ...


SEE POST # 91 for Tentative Payment Information Click Here



Mini Deep Oil Sump extension for volkswagen aircooled type 4 engines.

Increase your engines oil capacity to help prevent oil starvation.

Fits all type IV (4) engines including Type 2 (T2) bay windows 72-79, Type 25 (T3) Transporter / Vanagon 80-83, Porsche 914s and of course VW Type 4's (Tunacan)

Precision Machined high-strength aluminium.

Complete with fitting hardware and oil pick up extension tube.

Taco and Tuna:
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Taco (Silver)
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Tuna (Black) (Blue is no longer available):
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Tuna (Silver) (also available in Black)

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Hello all and thanks for your interest.

Heres some figures for you;

Taco plate
£32 each for 1-4
£31 each for 5-9
£29 each for 10-24
£27 each for 25-49
£25 each for 50+

Tuna can
£45 each for 1-4
£43 each for 5-9
£41 each for 10-24
£39 each for 25-49
£36 each for 50+

Shipping
£8 for 1 Part
£2 for each additional part up to 10 parts
£1 for each additional part over 10 parts


As an example if you order 10 taco plates and have them shipped to the same address they will work out to £31.60 each including shipping, which is less than the £32 for just the part. Or better still if i can make 25 for you then they will be £28.64 each including shipping. But for 50 they work out to just £26.32 each includng shipping.

$$$$ - To give you an idea of the exchange rates -

£31.60 GBP (the shipped cost for each taco plate if ordering 10) will work out to appox $50 USD.

£26.32 GBP (the shipped cost for each taco plate if ordering 50) will work out to appox $40 USD.

Hope this helps, if you want more info/prices etc just let me know.

Cheers,
Neil

EDIT 1/22/13 - PRICE DROP ON TACO PLATES, NOW ONLY £27 each

As of Feb 1, the count on Taco Plates is 31, @ £27 (currently $42.75) each + shipping*

... and the count on Tuna Cans is now 45, @ £39 (currently $61.75) each + shipping*

* Not sure how the shipping thing will work yet. If a participant can accept a shipment for a group of buyers in your local area, shipping costs could be reduced a bit. I'd be willing to accept a shipment for the local Los Angeles/OC guys, then we can figure out how to redistribute them once they're here ...

If you're located somewhere else in the country, possibly you or another participant in your area can handle your local region too

Otherwise, it appears that shipping would to your individual address at the rates shown above.


PARTICIPANTS:

..... NAME .......TACO PLATE .. TUNA CAN* .. COLOR *(Silver, Black, Blue) .. SHIPPING (I - Individual or G -Group)

Jim Hoyland .............1.........................1.................S............G (LA)........Gaskets: Both x1
euro911...................1..........................1......... .......S............G (LA)........Gasket: Taco x1
gothspeed ..............2..........................2.................Blk..........I.................Gaskets: ? DROPPED OUT 2/9
pete000 ..............................................1..................S............G (LA)........Gaskets: ?
0396 ....................................................1..................S............I..................Gasket: Tuna x1
r3dplanet..................1.........................1..................S............I.................Gaskets: Both x1
KaptKaos..................1.........................1..................S............G (LA)........Gaskets: Both x1
Lonewolfe.................1.........................1.................S..............I.................Gaskets: Both x1

EDIT 1/2/13
sportlicherFahrer.....1.........................1.................Blk...........I..................Gaskets: Both x1
no1uno.....................1.........................2..................S.............I...................Gaskets: Taco x1, Tuna x2
914four.....................1.........................1..................S.............I...................Gaskets: Both x1
Racer Chris.........................................4..................S............G (CT)
914_teener..............1.........................1..................S............G (LA)...........Gaskets: ? DROPPED OUT 2/9

EDIT 1/3/13
StratPlayer..............1.........................1..................S..............I...................Gaskets: ?
Valy........................................................1..................S.............G (LA).........Gaskets: ?
michael7810...........1.........................1..................S..............I..................Gaskets: Both x1

EDIT 1/4/13
arty914 ..............................................1...................S.............I...................Gaskets: ?
Rleog........................1.........................1...................S............G (CT).........Gaskets: Both x2 ?

EDIT 1/5/13
Kansas 914.............1.........................1..................S.............I...................Gaskets: ?
wndsnd......................1........................1..................S.............G (CT)........Gaskets: ?
02loftsmoor.............1........................1..................S..............I...................GASKETS: BOTH x1

EDIT 1/7/13
tscrihfield..................1.......................1.................Blk............I...................Gaskets: ?

EDIT 1/8/13
LotusJoe.............................................1...................S.............G (LA)..........Gaskets: ?

EDIT 1/13/13
RiceNeck..................1.......................1..................S.............I....................Gaskets: Taco x2

EDIT 1/15/13
cork............................1.......................1..................S.............I...................Gaskets: ?

EDIT 1/16/13
rdauenhauer............1.......................1..................S.............I...................Gaskets: ?

EDIT 1/17/13
Dasnowman.............1.......................1..................S.............I...................Gaskets: ?

EDIT 1/21/13
Krieger...............................................1..................S..............I...................Gaskets: ?
dfelz....................................................1..................S.............G (LA).........Gasket: Tuna x1

EDIT 1/22/13
Jmedeiros................2.......................2..................S..............I....................Gaskets: Both x2

EDIT 1/26/13
flash914..................1.......................1..................S.............I....................Gaskets: Both x1

EDIT 1/27/13
toadman.................1.......................1..................S.............I....................Gaskets: Both x1

EDIT 1/29/13
NORD................................................1..................S.............I....................Gaskets: Tuna x1
bozo914..................1......................1.................Blk...........I....................Gaskets: Both x1

EDIT 1/30/13
914bry.....................1.......................1..................S.............I....................Gaskets: ? ................................ Canada
zixxv6......................1.......................1..................S.............I...................Gaskets: Both x1
John Jentz.........................................1..................S.............I...................Gaskets: Tuna x1
Harpo................................................1.................Blk.............I...................Gaskets: Both x2
clapeza..................1............................................S..............I...................Gaskets: Taco x1

EDIT 1/31/13
Rob914.............................................1..................S.............I....................Gaskets: ?
timothy_nd28........1.............................................S.............I....................Gaskets: ?

EDIT 2/8/13
pnewman..........................................1..................S.............I....................Gaskets: Tuna x2

Make sure to post your preference in COLOR for the Taco Plate(s) and Tuna Can(s) (BLACK or SILVER) ...
BLUE NO LONGER AVAILABLE

ALSO, post your Shipping Preference (Individual or Group)

I'd like to get 3 silver Tunacans.

Mark,

Thanks for organizing.

I am in for the Taco and Tuna.

I am assuming they are universal for all cases. (cases as in displacement)

Let me know payment to uk in Euros? That wasn't clear.

OOps.

That would be silver in both cases. (Taco and Tuna) Thanks.

I just updated mine to Silver.
Thanks...sending mine to your shop in the LA area- I'm in for that too.

Good questions, Rob.

Neil discussed the Pay Pal and exchange rates in one of his other threads. You will pay via Pay Pal with USD, Pay Pal will convert to GBP.

All T4 cases are the same in regards to these parts fitting.


This whole thing just kind of fell into my lap, so the particulars aren't exactly dialed in yet.

When I set up a fender flare GB from AA, all the participants sent their payments to me and I cut a single check to George. Payments included shipping to each individual participant's address, so it was easy to deal with because everybody paid the same exact amount.


With this GB, some participants will be ordering different quantities and may also prefer shipment to their individual address. Others may opt for shipping to centralized US locations for redistribution, so this would cause differing total charges for each participant.

My thinking right now is that it would be easier if each participant chose their shipping preference and pay Neil (jonsey) directly.

For those who choose to participate in a centralized shipping method, the total shipping charge will need to be added up and equally divided between the participants. For example, KaptKaos' order (1 Taco and 1 Tuna) shipped to my shop along with my order (1 Taco and 1 Tuna) would incur a £14 ($22.75 USD) shipping charge. We would each pay £7 ($9.09 USD), rather than £10 ($16.75 USD) each... ($7.66 savings for each of us) big savings, eh?

If any other Los Angeles 'locals' would like to join in here, the total shipping savings would add up, and end up being even less for each individual. Boy, are we CSOBs or what

Then, we'll have to determine how each participant would take possession of their parts: pick up at my shop, or I bring to an upcoming event, or ... (to be continued) ...

Of course, these are just my thoughts at the moment, Neil may have some input as well ...

Mark,

I just notice a correction... some how you have me down for a 'taco plate'....please delete this as I only need the tuna can... As for shipment,
I might as well have it sent directly to me vs me having to fight traffic to your shop....sorry and thanks.
Last question, when do we need to pull the trigger on this?

For any other Northeasterners who are getting in on this GB, I'm happy to be used as a payment/delivery hub if it saves us a few Pounds ($$).

Mark

Ok...I don't mind having to go to your shop to pick up if it will save on shipping.

Seems to me the more the merrier on the manuf. costs. and then ship to your shop.

So contact Neil and reference the GB is what I am hearing.

Put me down for 1 of each. Tuna can silver

Silver for me please.

Thanks for running with this Mark!

My misunderstanding, Peter. I created the list from what I read in both of jonsey's Classified threads. I assumed you wanted one as posted in the Taco Plate thread

I'll update the list accordingly ...

ALL PARTICIPANTS, Please double check the list to make sure you list COLOR (BLACK or SILVER) ...
BLUE NO LONGER AVAILABLE,
preference in shipping and any other corrections needed[/b] ... I do make mistakes from time to time

I know this might add a bit more confusion to the mix and i apologise for that but i thought i should let you all know that i can offer the taco plate and the tuna can in either black or silver.

If some of you have no preference on color then thats cool.

As for the delivery and payment options, i think maybe its best to see who wants what first and then we can discuss the best way forward.

Cheers,
Neil

1 Tuna can in Silver...

Thanks !

1 silver Tuna and 1 silver Taco for me. Individual shipping to Phoenix
Thanks

I think we should let this GB stay open until at least the end of January

1 tuna can silver please. shipped to North Canton, Ohio
Many thanks

One silver taco plate, and one silver tuna can

delivered to Chris at Tangerine Racing (thanks, Chris)

Please put me down for 1 Taco and 1 Tuna both in silver and shipped individually to Durango, CO.

Cheers!

One of each silver

Thanks Gents

Group ship to Racer Chrris

Ok now it is right. Stinking phone.

John,
you should have yours delivered here.

Wow, the GB is looking good ........Since it appears we are gonna reach the 25 qty. price point ... I think I am gonna get 2 tacos and 2 tuna in BLACK , still deciding on shipping method ....

I think it is a good idea to let this GB go till the end of January at minimum. It will allow Jonesy to start work on the vast quantity and will allow more peeps to get in on the GB, potentially getting us an even better deal ........

I PMed for at red taco plate and tuna can Wes

One more Tuna Can will drop the per unit price from £41(currently $66.64) to £39 (currently $63.39) each

$66.64

I can take one more tunacan to save another $3 each.

I'd be willing to receive the entire shipment from England and distribute it via Priority Mail if that will save people more money.

Good going, Chris ... now I have to recalculate everything ...

and thanks for catching my typo ... yes it's $66.64, or it was before your addition order (it's now $63.39)


The dollars shown in the right hand column are an example of the savings over having the items shipped from the UK to those particular individual participants, and the list is not cast in stone yet, so those #s could change a bit.

Most of the 'LA' guys (except for Val) are fairly close and the orders can be distributed from here without reshipping. Val may reconsider a shipping method if it's only a few dollars

I haven't calculated using a single receiving location and reshipping. If someone with better math skills than me wants a go at it ...

The info that was in this post is outdated and has been deleted

I just ran a spreadsheet for this option using the current piece total of 17+25=42.
To start with I used the "socialist" method and divided all shipping equally per unit.
Import shipping per unit works out to $2.25 and US delivery average works out to $2.05/pc.
This assumes one package delivered to LA containing 10 pcs, for $10; No delivery cost for 8pcs to CT, $6 for one or two pieces and $10 for 4pcs everywhere else.

This also assumes I can ship 2 pcs together via Priority Small Flat Rate, rounded up to $6. If the Tunacan is more than 1 5/8" tall, that may not be possible.
Using this method, anyone ordering one of each will pay about $119.44 at the current exchange rate.

I'll re-run it with each person paying actual shipping for his order.
Some people will pay more, some less that way.

Here's the excel file I created.

Edit 1/8: Excel file has been updated go to post 49 for the new file.

Is there a California group buy? If so, can I still get in on it? I'm here in Southern California.

Its one big group buy, with guys near LA all picking their order up from Mark S. (euro911).

Still plenty of time, Joe. Just let us know what you want, color and quantities and I'll update the list.

Thanks, Chris.

The .xls only downloads half way, then hangs up. ... I'll try on another PC.

I used to work for a manager that wanted every proposal looked at 12 different ways to determine the best cost. I'm retired now and don't have the time or patience to do that anymore

Thanks to you all, and especially thanks to Mark and Chris for your efforts... nice work.

I downloaded it no problem Mark, so i think the file is good.
Cheers,
Neil

I purchased these in December so here is a teaser of what you can expect

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DAvid

Neil,
Can you tell me, how tall is the cylinder of the "tunacan" sump extension?

Chris 35.49mm is the total height. However there is a recessed step of 6.6mm

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That's exactly what I was looking for, thanks.
It means a taco plate and a tuna can will easily fit in one small flat rate box.
So cross continent shipping for one or two is $5.35.
3-10 pieces is $9.62.

It looks like the LA group would pay $3.29 per piece total shipping, vs. $4.56.
Someone receiving one of each would pay $10.01 total shipping, vs. $19.56.
I'll repost the spreadsheet in the morning after making adjustments.

Are the tuna cans easy to install once the engine is together? It may sound like a dumb question, but.....

Does the taco plate accept the stock sensor?

If so, count me in for one of each black preferred.

Let me know who needs the $$

Thanks!

Thomas

Yep, just have to drain your oil get the gasket and seal ...

My understanding is that the Taco accepts stock sensor and OEM seal and the Tuna accepts OEM gasket, strainer and cover.

Payment details haven't been nailed down yet. I proposed that each participant pay Neil directly, but that could change if 'someone' wants to handle that portion . Personally, I don't want to collect the $, especially Pay Pal payments.

The iffy thing about GBs like this one, is there are always a few that sign up, but don't follow through, skewing the numbers for everyone else.

I'd hope all those who are on board are actually committed to this


LIST IS UPDATED - Please verify your quantities and colors are correct

How would I get in on the group buy for a silver Tuna Can if I don,t have
PayPal? Is this possible?

Jonsey can you confirm this ?
My recollection was that original design Tuna can's had no solution for an application of the OE strainer? Picture?

Also this may have already been answered but the OE temp sensor location was angled I assume for clearance and possibly to avoid smackage of swingy bits internal to the motor? Since this mount puts it at a 90 to the case is it now lower?
In other words does it mount proud of the bottom of the case much like the Tuna can?

Nord, when the GB is finalized and the actual costs are known, maybe you could send a check to one of the other participants and have them add your purchase to their payment

Rich, it looks like the taco plate wouldn't sit any lower then the engine mounting bar

I may be wrong about the strainer. I don't remember who posted something about a modification to use the strainer, but maybe it was for the old style tuna cans. I'll try to find the post


EDIT
Found it. It was relating to the old style can.

This Topic

I forgot to mention my color choice. Blue for both. Individual shipping.

Thanks,
Marcus

Got it, Marcus

I just had one of these arrive in the mail and am very happy with how it looks.
Havent had the chance to fit it yet because i am waiting for a pair of new seals to fit.
May i sugest organising a bunch of these for each kit as you will need 2 for each kit and it's a pain having to wait for 2 suppliers
Looks like some good buying to be had here.
Edwin

Here's the updated Excel spreadsheet.
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I added a column for Paypal Fees in the event someone collects payments from everyone else.
I am willing to be the hub for payments if we go with single payer to Jonesy.
However, Paypal adds a significant cost to this option.
The only way around it is using the Gift option or sending check/money order.
I don't know what Paypal's policy is regarding Gifts, how closely they monitor it or if they apply fees when a payment doesn't fit their accepted model.

I already purchase strainer seal kits in quantity and could add these, as well as a taco plate seal kit if desired. I haven't found a good source for the little hollow copper washers yet though.
The line between GB participant and vendor is getting a little blurry.