I am usually getting ready to shift at 5,000. Then you aren't past the HP peak when you actually get the clutch in.
timothy_nd28
Jul 19 2013, 11:12 PM
Both lights are adjustable. I'll adjust the controller to whatever RPM you wish. Currently, I have the prototype board set to switch to yellow at 4000 rpm then to red at 5400 rpm. I'm thinking that yellow may be set too low and might be annoying when driving around. I'm thinking 4600 or 4800 rpm might be the answer, if it is indeed annoying, I can adjust the yellow to never come on, just the red light at 5400 rpm. When you install this controller to your car, you can change the settings easily.
mepstein
Jul 20 2013, 03:42 AM
QUOTE(timothy_nd28 @ Jul 20 2013, 01:12 AM)
Both lights are adjustable. I'll adjust the controller to whatever RPM you wish. Currently, I have the prototype board set to switch to yellow at 4000 rpm then to red at 5400 rpm. I'm thinking that yellow may be set too low and might be annoying when driving around. I'm thinking 4600 or 4800 rpm might be the answer, if it is indeed annoying, I can adjust the yellow to never come on, just the red light at 5400 rpm. When you install this controller to your car, you can change the settings easily.
Great. I plan to install in the 6. Redline is 6850.
euro911
Jul 20 2013, 05:19 AM
Wow, Tim ... I just saw this particular thread and your progress has has grown exponentially in a relatively short time
I'm planning to get your 'first generation' gauges installed in the 'BB' later this week
I just wanted more illumination for my old eyes, but being able to fine-tune the tach's red-line color change, as well as low fuel, hi temps, or other critical notifications is a really cool idea.
I've got a feeling that you're gonna be selling a lot of these ... and yes, I believe AL would be quite proud of your continued development efforts.
rick 918-S
Jul 20 2013, 07:01 AM
Very cool
eric9144
Jul 20 2013, 08:57 AM
Can you do the small center console gauges as well? If so I'm in too, I've has LED bulbs in mine for years and they really kind of suck, especially compared to this!
zambezi
Jul 20 2013, 10:02 AM
This is going to be really cool. I will definitely want it when they are done.
timothy_nd28
Jul 20 2013, 10:03 AM
I haven't opened up the smaller console gauges before, but I don't see why not.
Harpo
Jul 20 2013, 10:39 AM
This is very impressive. Looking forward to this upgrade.
David
mikeyb33
Jul 20 2013, 11:07 AM
Amazing, fantastic work!
Would be interested in buying a set. I have the 914-6 gauge cluster - which includes a separate fuel gauge (center 'console' mounted).
Undecided yet on whether DIY/M or sending my gauges to you - won't be able to take apart my car for another month at least. (And I've got this thread bookmarked now..)
Speaking of fuel gauge: I thought mine was std Porsche, but it has no 'low fuel' light as has been mentioned here... Would anyone know if the low-fuel light version is a direct drop-in replacement? Will post pics later showing what I have.
Thanks again for sharing your outstanding work!!!
monkeyboy
Jul 21 2013, 09:29 AM
Quick question about the gauge color change. Just to be sure, it only works when the lights are on, right? It's not something that will light up at the shift point when the lights are not on?
I am just trying to be clear on what to expect. I am not looking for a full time shift light myself.
I have plenty of burned out light bulbs here for you.
timothy_nd28
Jul 21 2013, 03:20 PM
Okay, I recorded some video last night. I'm at a loss on how to record these in the dark, the cameras I use just sucks. These really look better in person. Hopefully the first 10 people buying this will have better luck recording and posting the results on here.
I was hoping to shoot some real footage with this installed in my 914, but my engine at that rpm sounds really really horrible and ready to explode. I think my advance isn't working correctly. However, they do work in my car. I have the yellow warn light activate around 4k and the redline redlight on at 5400.
Quick question about the gauge color change. Just to be sure, it only works when the lights are on, right? It's not something that will light up at the shift point when the lights are not on?
I am just trying to be clear on what to expect. I am not looking for a full time shift light myself.
I have mine wired so it steals power from one of the original gauge bulbs. So mine only turns on with the headlight switch. You can also wire it to ignition "on" 12v for it to be on all the time. These gauges are bright, but not that bright. The sunlight will most likely overpower these LED's during the daytime.
euro911
Jul 21 2013, 07:51 PM
QUOTE(monkeyboy @ Jul 21 2013, 09:15 AM)
I have plenty of burned out light bulbs here for you.
I thought you had a good supply of new ones that you weren't planning on using ...
Gary
Jul 22 2013, 05:09 AM
Please put me down for a DIY. I'll need enough LED strips for 5 gauge 911 setup. Thnx!
timothy_nd28
Jul 22 2013, 11:24 AM
Research and development phase is just about over. Now it's time to produce these controllers in quantity. For the first 10 sales, I would like to sell these to the folks that wanted me to provide the labor. I hate to sell a DIY kit right now, and have you guys ask a question that I couldn't answer. For doing the first 10 myself, will help me gain valuable information of what to do and what not to do. After the first 10 have shipped, I will start selling the DIY kits. For the guys that already posted their commitment of me doing the labor, could you edit your post and add what RPM you want your red-line at? Also, if you want the yellow warn light enabled? If so, what rpm would you like that to be at? And most importantly, how many cylinders you have. I would like to have everything adjusted before mailing the gauges back to you.
SirAndy
Jul 22 2013, 11:31 AM
QUOTE(timothy_nd28 @ Jul 2 2013, 11:11 PM)
SirAndy, you do so much for this site. I would be happy to donate one to you for free
No need for a freebee, i'd be more than happy to pay you for your work.
The stock gauge lighting (or lack thereof) is one thing that has bugged me for a long time.
timothy_nd28
Jul 22 2013, 01:54 PM
Right now I'm just doing the first 10 members that committed to a kit and labor. I will honor the price of 95 for the kit and 100 for labor for these people. After the first 10 gauges have been successfully re-installed back into your car, I will start selling the DIY kits. I still have some openings for the first 10. PM me if you want to be added or deleted from this list. I'll need to do a price assessment after the first 10 have been sold, just to make sure this service makes sense and I'm not losing money! I'm thinking that I will be ready next week to accept your gauges. I will have everything ready and prepped to achieve a one day turn around.
Kit and Labor (Members)............(Cylinders).............(Redline (yes/no) RPM?)...............(Yellow warn (yes/no) RPM?)
Right now I'm just doing the first 10 members that committed to a kit and labor. I will honor the price of 95 for the kit and 100 for labor. After the first 10 gauges have been successfully re-installed back into your car, I will start selling the DIY kits. I still have some openings for the first 10. PM me if you want to be added or deleted from this list. I'll need to do a price assessment after the first 10 have been sold, just to make sure this service makes sense and I'm not losing money! I'm thinking that I will be ready next week to accept your gauges. I will have everything ready and prepped to achieve a one day turn around.
Kit and Labor (Members)............(Cylinders).............(Redline-RPM?)...............(Yellow warn (yes/no) RPM?)
Nice, I'll replace that plastic lens with some glass
eric9144
Jul 22 2013, 03:59 PM
Can you change the speedo gearing to match a tire change?
timothy_nd28
Jul 22 2013, 06:45 PM
QUOTE(eric9144 @ Jul 22 2013, 01:59 PM)
Can you change the speedo gearing to match a tire change?
Maybe, is there a place that sells these custom gears?
Harpo
Jul 22 2013, 06:51 PM
Kit and Labor (Members)............(Cylinders).............(Redline (yes/no) RPM?)...............(Yellow warn (yes/no) RPM?)
4 cylinder - Redline (yes) 5000 - Yellow no
Thanks
David
ThePaintedMan
Jul 22 2013, 08:22 PM
Sorry Tim, got your message but it got crazy at work in the afternoon. Count me in bud! Your work is second to none, and as I've said before, Al would be very impressed and proud.
timothy_nd28
Jul 22 2013, 10:54 PM
I need two more volunteers for the kit+labor to complete my list of the first ten.
SirAndy
Jul 22 2013, 11:35 PM
QUOTE(timothy_nd28 @ Jul 22 2013, 01:37 PM)
Nice, I'll replace that plastic lens with some glass
I'm pretty sure that is glass ...
No idea why it is so scratched up tho.
Oh, one more thing, i have 5 gauges, not 3, since i'm running the 911 style dash. Just add on whatever additional costs that may be.
SirAndy
Jul 22 2013, 11:37 PM
QUOTE(SirAndy @ Jul 22 2013, 10:35 PM)
Oh, one more thing, i have 5 gauges, not 3, since i'm running the 911 style dash. Just add on whatever additional costs that may be.
This is a slightly older pic, the tach face has since changed ...
timothy_nd28
Jul 23 2013, 07:39 AM
Those are cool, just might keep them! I see no problem stuffing the RGB LEDs inside those 2 extra gauges. The RGB controller is rated for 12amps, so we should be good there too
Jakeodoule
Jul 23 2013, 05:41 PM
QUOTE(timothy_nd28 @ Jul 22 2013, 09:54 PM)
I need two more volunteers for the kit+labor to complete my list of the first ten.
Pm sent. I'm in for the full meal deal
4 cyl yellow yes at 4200 Red yes at 5000
timothy_nd28
Jul 23 2013, 05:52 PM
Kit and Labor (*)= first 10 orders with price @ 95.00 kit & 100 labor (Members)............(Cylinders).............(Redline (yes/no) RPM?)...............(Yellow warn (yes/no) RPM?)
Mr.242 StratPlayer mepstein__________6______________yes @ 6850_________________________? Madswede poorsche914 Gary
no1uno
Jul 23 2013, 07:20 PM
I'd like to see the light. Include me for an installed kit.
4cyl yes to redline at 5000 rpm and yes to yellow at 4000
Will rpm color change thresholds be adjustable ? Just in case I want to make changes in future?
balljoint
Jul 23 2013, 08:25 PM
The tach in my 914 has a little orange mark around 5800 rpms.
I guess that would be a bad place to run my bone stock 1.8 up to in order to see the red light come on?
4 cylinder, yes to redline light at 4,914 rpms (or 5000 if thats just easier) yes to yellow warning light at 4000 rpms.
Very excited about this. And please add my bill to SirAndy's.
timothy_nd28
Jul 24 2013, 12:03 AM
QUOTE(no1uno @ Jul 23 2013, 05:20 PM)
I'd like to see the light. Include me for an installed kit.
4cyl yes to redline at 5000 rpm and yes to yellow at 4000
Will rpm color change thresholds be adjustable ? Just in case I want to make changes in future?
Yes, the color change thresholds can be adjusted after my initial calibration. You adjust the set screws clockwise to increase the RPM threshold or counter clockwise to decrease it. The cylinder select switch was a cool idea for the folks that may do a engine swap in the near future. My uncle even added a position on the switch for someone that may want to stuff a Rolls Royce Merlin V-12 engine! Click to view attachment
We made some more progress today, all 10 boards have been soldered and ready for calibration. I'm very pleased with the results and how they turned out, but not happy that it took all day to do 10 boards. There is a learning curve with these surface mount components so hopefully it will go faster as time goes on.
I should be ready within a few days to start accepting the first ten orders. Click to view attachment
timothy_nd28
Jul 24 2013, 01:15 AM
If anyone can replicate this for me, I would so give them a free kit & labor! Click to view attachment
timothy_nd28
Jul 24 2013, 07:59 PM
Here's the remote that comes with the controller. You can select the pre-chosen colors, or you can custom make your own color by adjusting the levels in each color. Click to view attachment
We added a feature to the controller today. Instead of the instant color change at the set RPM threshholds, it is more of a color fade/melt. I think this looks much better, and the circuit seems to be much more responsive, especially when you blip the throttle.
euro911
Jul 24 2013, 08:16 PM
QUOTE(timothy_nd28 @ Jul 24 2013, 12:15 AM)
If anyone can replicate this for me, I would so give them a free kit & labor! Click to view attachment
You need to make it dual purpose, An arm with a tool head for lifting up the bezel crimp, and another tool head for re-crimping ...
timothy_nd28
Jul 24 2013, 08:52 PM
Alrighty, I'm ready for the lucky first 10 members to mail me their gauges. It will give me something to do this weekend. I'll PM each of you with my shipping info.
timothy_nd28
Jul 24 2013, 10:35 PM
One last question for my first 10 group buyers. Does any one have a 5volt driven tach or a tach driven by a computer? I made a assumption that everyone is still using the original ignition system that uses a ignition coil and points or a pointless module. For the 5volt tachs, I'll need to change the value of R1 from 100k to 10k
balljoint
Jul 25 2013, 08:16 AM
My car is all stock.
monkeyboy
Jul 25 2013, 10:31 AM
I have an ignition system on my car, but I am running a tach converter so it works with the stock tach.
Jakeodoule
Jul 25 2013, 01:12 PM
Mine is all stock.
QUOTE(timothy_nd28 @ Jul 24 2013, 09:35 PM)
One last question for my first 10 group buyers. Does any one have a 5volt driven tach or a tach driven by a computer? I made a assumption that everyone is still using the original ignition system that uses a ignition coil and points or a pointless module. For the 5volt tachs, I'll need to change the value of R1 from 100k to 10k
mrholland2
Jul 25 2013, 01:31 PM
Stock
914werke
Jul 25 2013, 01:59 PM
Put me down for the full meal deal ...Kit and Labor (Member)............(Cylinders).............(Redline (yes/no) RPM?)...............(Yellow warn (yes/no) RPM?)
Outstanding work Tim! I am sure Al would be very excited to see you carry this concept on into the future.
Mblizzard
Jul 28 2013, 07:35 PM
At some point I am going to have to have this! I would love to see a video of these in action. Any possibility of extending this to the center console gauges?
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