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Sounds great!
jamlip
Trial-fitted the radiator. I want to try positioning it at the back of the frunk to keep the weight as inboard as possible.

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I will add a top cover behind the radiator to form a plenum to stop heated air venting to the cabin, and also aid the low pressure in the wheel wheels draw the air through from the front.

Keeping the rad towards the back also opens up the possibility of a retaining a small amount of storage in the frunk, but I'll test this setup before I commit to that.

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In addition to the wheel well holes, has anyone ever tried cutting holes like this at the steering rack recess to draw air? I feel like this space would create a good low-pressure area from air moving under the car.

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Shivers
The manifolds came out great. smile.gif

@jamlip
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QUOTE(jamlip @ Mar 6 2024, 11:10 PM) *

Trial-fitted the radiator. I want to try positioning it at the back of the frunk to keep the weight as inboard as possible.

I will add a top cover behind the radiator to form a plenum to stop heated air venting to the cabin, and also aid the low pressure in the wheel wheels draw the air through from the front.

Keeping the rad towards the back also opens up the possibility of a retaining a small amount of storage in the frunk, but I'll test this setup before I commit to that.

In addition to the wheel well holes, has anyone ever tried cutting holes like this at the steering rack recess to draw air? I feel like this space would create a good low-pressure area from air moving under the car.


How fast do plan on driving Jamie. These cars get pretty light around 125mph. Any added air beneath will have its effect. beerchug.gif
slowrodent
In addition to the wheel well holes, has anyone ever tried cutting holes like this at the steering rack recess to draw air? I feel like this space would create a good low-pressure area from air moving under the car.

Yes.. This is mine..



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jamlip
Interesting, thank you. Do you have the fenders cut out as well?

QUOTE(slowrodent @ Mar 7 2024, 07:14 AM) *

In addition to the wheel well holes, has anyone ever tried cutting holes like this at the steering rack recess to draw air? I feel like this space would create a good low-pressure area from air moving under the car.

Yes.. This is mine..



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slowrodent
No.. I just have these as exit holes, and I have opened/connected the front holes as inlets. My radiator sits to the rear of the frunk. It;s a bit unorthodox I suppose. We'll see how it flows once its moving smile.gif My goal was to be able to fit a spare tire in the frunk.

Kevin
jamlip
Right-o. Any thoughts on this arrangement before I drill a bazillion holes in the car?

Under-cooled, over-cooled, structurally unsound, etc...

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Lilchopshop
QUOTE(slowrodent @ Mar 7 2024, 09:10 PM) *

No.. I just have these as exit holes, and I have opened/connected the front holes as inlets. My radiator sits to the rear of the frunk. It;s a bit unorthodox I suppose. We'll see how it flows once its moving smile.gif My goal was to be able to fit a spare tire in the frunk.

Kevin


@slowrodent , Can you share details of how/where the spare tire fits? Is it a regular size spare or one of those collapsible deals?
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QUOTE(jamlip @ Mar 9 2024, 12:11 AM) *

Right-o. Any thoughts on this arrangement before I drill a bazillion holes in the car?

Under-cooled, over-cooled, structurally unsound, etc...


Nah. Just do it. We learn from both achievements and mistakes. Besides, you'll fix anything that doesn't work out, right? beerchug.gif
Lilchopshop
QUOTE(jamlip @ Mar 9 2024, 03:11 AM) *

Right-o. Any thoughts on this arrangement before I drill a bazillion holes in the car?

Under-cooled, over-cooled, structurally unsound, etc...


@jamlip , that looks interesting. I like the new approach to radiator mounting. If nothing else, all those holes should create a nice soft crush zone during front collision! confused24.gif I’ll be watching to see where you go with this.
slowrodent
Just FYI gents, as Im not trying to hijack... This is mine. And I may not have adequate "holes", but I can add more as I learn more. My theory is mount skinny full-diameter spare on the frame I built, and then allow air to flow through the front under the spare tire.. (Ignore blue coolant hose presently blocking flow smile.gif ) I have test fit the tire and it works quite well. I will add air-directing ductwork as required.

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krazykonrad
That's a fantastic color on the 912. What is it?
jamlip
QUOTE(krazykonrad @ Mar 9 2024, 04:31 PM) *

That's a fantastic color on the 912. What is it?


Thx. Bahama Yellow.
jamlip
OK, went ahead with the holes as templated…

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RFoulds
Dang you been busy Jamie! Let me know if you need anything.

Randy
jamlip
The frunk radiator box now has a top cover, and I routed pipes from the engine through to the front.

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Against my better judgement I decided to put the heater pipes inside the cabin, on top of the tunnel - my reasoning being that I do occasionally like a good thrash on some of the dirt roads out here in the desert.

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(Still waiting on Amazon for the connectors to get the hoses to the radiator inlet / outlet)

I've wrapped the pipes with fiberglass pipe wrap to help contain heat and am in the process of building a secondary tunnel structure around them to raise the shifter to around the same height as it would be in the MR2 which it came from. I'll then sheath it with FRP and cover it in charcoal Perlon so it looks somewhat factory.

I'm wondering if I could somehow use the tunnel to stiffen the chassis a touch at the same time, although I'm simultaneously not that keen to add more weight than necessary to this thing.
Shivers
QUOTE(jamlip @ Mar 27 2024, 09:28 AM) *


I'm wondering if I could somehow use the tunnel to stiffen the chassis a touch at the same time, although I'm simultaneously not that keen to add more weight than necessary to this thing.


Hi James I do not think it will help twist but you could build a truss from small square tubing to serve as a frame for your extention. Wouldn’t weigh much but would be strong. Welded or bolted to the existing tunnel would give you some extra anti flex protection.
East coaster
I have this square tube framework I made but decided not to use. It already has the mount points for the MR2 shifter. I’d be willing to let it go to a good cause.

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jamlip
Really appreciate it but we're on opposite coasts and it's so easy just to make one.

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I have this square tube framework I made but decided not to use. It already has the mount points for the MR2 shifter. I’d be willing to let it go to a good cause.

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East coaster
QUOTE(jamlip @ Mar 29 2024, 01:40 PM) *

Really appreciate it but we're on opposite coasts and it's so easy just to make one.

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I have this square tube framework I made but decided not to use. It already has the mount points for the MR2 shifter. I’d be willing to let it go to a good cause.





Understood, just thought I’d offer since it will collect dust in my shop and ultimately be cut up for some other use of the tubing. Good luck with your project!
jamlip
Pulled-apart steering rack and am waiting on bearings and seals so I can rebuild.

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Discovered that the car had a 23mm master cylinder (think the front brakes were Volvo), so I pulled that. I have a spare 19mm master cylinder in my Box of Stuff, which I will use. Front brakes will be 3.2 calipers, which I've ordered and am waiting on.

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Cut down my rear hubs. I didn't want to use a 5mm spacer on the outside. Used the stub axel as a reference to grind the cut square, and old bearing race to make sure I had cut off enough to grip the bearing properly. I went about 0.8mm undersize.

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Welded in a new tray. After this I need to drop the engine and do the hellhole. Can't wait.

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Made a little bracket for the hydraulic master cylinder. Came out nice - will get a photo.
jamlip
Latest updates. Progress is molasses-slow.

Made up some new cunifer brake lines.

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Cleaned the front hubs and fitted new bearings.

Fitted new front brakes. They're SC / 3.2 Carrera units, but I wonder now if I should have gone with Boxster calipers.

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Started on the stiffening kit (then ran out of gas halfway through).

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Here's the bracket I made for the clutch slave cylinder...

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... the hardware needed some adaptation to make it fit...

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.... and the through-bolts on the pedal cluster needed lengthening. Because I was out of welding gas, I cut off the old bolts and drilled and tapped them to hold these new bolts in place.

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Here's the pedal cluster in place. I cleaned it up, painted it and fitted new bronze bushings. I've done four of these in my life, and I'm a lot more efficient now than my first attempt.

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Clutch master cylinder bracket in place on the underside.

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Realizing that I won't be able to fit the steering rack because that reservoir is in the way sad.gif

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ClayPerrine
QUOTE(jamlip @ Jan 28 2025, 03:31 PM) *



Realizing that I won't be able to fit the steering rack because that reservoir is in the way sad.gif

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I used a Wilwood clutch master cylinder and a remote reservoir. The reservoir is from a RHD 924 S. I mounted it right behind the brake master cylinder.

jamlip
Thanks Clay, I’ll look into it
jamlip
Can anyone help me find a starter that will fit?

The solenoid on the current one is in a position that means it hits the underside of the trunk floor. I can't raise the engine into place.

I'm looking for something with the solenoid clocked like this…

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A while back Kent mentioned there was one that works, but he couldn’t remember which car it was for.
East coaster
This is what I used and it worked/fit perfectly.

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jamlip
QUOTE(East coaster @ Jan 29 2025, 04:31 AM) *

This is what I used and it worked/fit perfectly.

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Thank you! Subaru 17717, apparently. eBay came through with a remanufactured unit at $40 smile.gif
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Jamie, check Rock Auto. I bought the Denso reman which was available in 1kw or 1.2kw. Still works great after 11 yrs. That 1.2kw really spins the 6 quickly.
jamlip
Thanks! I did - it was $20 more for a different (or perhaps even the same?) no-name reman (plus a mail-in core charge of $30), so I decided to roll the dice.

A Denso reman was $110. That’s fine, but Denso use 3P suppliers for their remanufactured parts, so it could be the same thing anyway.

I wouldn’t exercise this logic on set of crank bearings or a clutch, but this is part is easy to swap out if there’s a problem later.
jamlip
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jamlip
I tend to do these kind of projects in fits and starts. Nothing on the 914 for months, then in the last few weeks...

1. Exhaust manifolds welded. I have an EZ30D with the single-port exhaust outlet. I modeled a flange from a flatbed scan of a gasket, and had it cut by SendCutSend.

2. Welded up a shifter bracket from some 3/8 square tube.

3. Skimmed my 944 stub axles down on a lathe so they fit the 914 rear swing arms. This saved me a lot of money over buying 914-6 stub axles, but cost me a lot of hours. Luckily those hours are free.

4. Fixed the hellhole. My damage was minor but it was a huge PITA and I hope to never do it again.

5. Almost done fitting the stiffening kit inside the cabin. In two minds whether to do the rear chassis leg supports or not.
jamlip
Exhaust going in. I am waiting on header stud bolts, so it’s resting on the cradle and sitting a bit low in this photo. Blue cable goes to shifter.

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My shifter design. The off-the-shelf offering looked complicated for what it was trying to achieve and I just couldn’t bring myself to spend the money, so I made this out of scrap aluminum plate. It has fewer moving parts and employs readily-available boat control cables, which are cheaper than custom threaded cables. I made my own cable locks and the lever on the shaft is cut and welded from the original shift bracket + roll pin. It took a long time and multiple iterations to get it right. Still waiting on the 6ft fore-aft shift cable ($18 on Amazon!) but so far the side to side shift feels excellent.

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Added sound deadener. I want the car to be light(-ish), but also, I added this stuff inside the cab of a camper van that I rebuilt last fall and the effect on engine and road noise was amazing. Penalty here is 5-10 lbs and I’ll take it. Chassis stiffening kit is also in. Shifter turret is made from 3/8 hollow tube and is nice and light. The insulation in the passenger footwell is to go inside the centre console tunnel, which is next on the list (I think).

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Nice James. I did basically the same shift set up albeit you used aluminum vs: steel & you routed the long cable on the R side vs: L side. Both of us choose this route to reduce the number of moving parts. Hopefully you'll 86 those KYB's. Hit me up on the front shocks when you get around to it. Are you going 911 on the front end or staying with stock 914? beerchug.gif
jamlip
Hey Kent.

The front is all 911 now. Steel crossmember, early A-arms with brackets swapped out for 16mm underbody sway bar, five lug hubs and 3.2 brakes. I've left the factory Boge shocks in because I've never found anything I prefer. Bilsteins are too stiff for me.

The KYBs on the rear are definitely going. I'm going to need a heavier spring to accommodate the engine. Not sure what to replace them with - adjustable coilovers? I don't mind the back end being stiff.
rick 918-S
I got a set of 180 lb coils. The car sits level with a heavy 928 engine
jamlip
QUOTE(rick 918-S @ Aug 24 2025, 07:37 PM) *

I got a set of 180 lb coils. The car sits level with a heavy 928 engine


Thanks! That's the number I had got to after reading through Kent's thread.
jamlip
Been on the wiring today. I feel like a total idiot because I appear to have lost the part of the harness that attaches to the relay board and provides power to the stater solenoid, a feed to the oil pressure warning light, etc.

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Apart from that, it all kind of makes sense, although it has been so long since I took the car apart that I'm having some problems remembering what certain wires did.

Can anyone help me with these two conundrums?

1. A red wire and a black / red wire, plus a third wire with a connector block on it. They're inside the sheath that carries four thick red feed wires to the battery. The red and black/red had a white circular-ish connector on it.

I believe the connect was for the fuel pump. It's fused at the relay board and would be be an excellent power source for my ECU, but I just cannot get 12v out of either of them. There's 12v at the bullet fuse on the relay board. Any ideas greatly appreciated.

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2. These wires exit the rear of the tunnel. I'm assuming they're seatbelt warning lights and / or engine bay heater blower controls. I can't work out where to look on the wiring diagram. Again, any help greatly appreciated!

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Toss the relay board James. It's just another source for problems with a 50yo car. There are just 6 or 9 wires, I forget, that you need. Cut the harness before the multi-pin connector. beerchug.gif
jamlip
Looking at it in the cold light of day, you're absolutely right. I only need a few wires from this bundle, anyway. I can extend the harness, replace the antique cylindrical relays with modern units and eliminate the multi-pin plugs.

Anyone know what the wires that exit the tunnel are for? I'm trying to locate them in the schematic but no joy.

QUOTE(76-914 @ Aug 25 2025, 07:59 AM) *

Toss the relay board James. It's just another source for problems with a 50yo car. There are just 6 or 9 wires, I forget, that you need. Cut the harness before the multi-pin connector. beerchug.gif
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QUOTE(jamlip @ Aug 25 2025, 12:40 PM) *

Looking at it in the cold light of day, you're absolutely right. I only need a few wires from this bundle, anyway. I can extend the harness, replace the antique cylindrical relays with modern units and eliminate the multi-pin plugs.\

Anyone know what the wires that exit the tunnel are for? I'm trying to locate them in the schematic but no joy.

QUOTE(76-914 @ Aug 25 2025, 07:59 AM) *

Toss the relay board James. It's just another source for problems with a 50yo car. There are just 6 or 9 wires, I forget, that you need. Cut the harness before the multi-pin connector. beerchug.gif


You'll probably only add 2-3 relays. You'll need to add the Subaru FP relay, 1 or 2 for your radiator fans and I think I'm forgetting one more. Oh yea, one for the compressor if you're adding AC. Now is a good time to add a fuse for the large red wire(s) depending upon model year that run from the battery and up the tunnel. The red wire that goes from the battery to the relay board will be 86'd. beerchug.gif
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James, you might want to throw on a few pieces of Fire Sleeve where the shift cable and AN6 clutch tubing runs near your headers. beerchug.gif
jamlip
I plan to P-clip all this stuff well out the way of the exhausts. Everything (well, mostly everything) to AC.43.13-1B!

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James, you might want to throw on a few pieces of Fire Sleeve where the shift cable and AN6 clutch tubing runs near your headers. beerchug.gif

jamlip
Todays' steps forward (and some steps back).

Started badly with this stripped nut on my stupid Uro tie rod end. I've had such bad luck with Uro stuff in the past, it was not a surprise. Must stop buying this garbage.

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During my search for a non-Uro tie rod end to replace it with, I noticed one from a 1977 BMW 320i has a part number interchange. There are loads of supplier options available, so I've ordered two, Delphi brand, to check.

M10x1.25 exhaust nuts arrived so I was able to tighten the flanges up to the heads and see where my pipework was sitting. Looks OK to me. I stuffed some cut-off sections in the mufflers to see where they'll exit, and they're too high. I also don't like the pipes being so far apart. I think I'm going go with two 90s angled downwards to meet at a period-correct dual center exit.

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Stuck the O2 sensor bung in there whilst I was at it. For some reason I have accumulated a supply of seven of these over the years. I guess like projects.

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Subaru inner CVs are on.

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This is where I could use some help from someone who has been down this road before. This is the 944 CV and driveshaft in place on the hub, with the trailing arms at full droop on the shock absorbers. The axle obviously needs shortening. Anyone know how long? Or maybe the question is, where about does the tripod need to sit inside the cup?

The 922 shafts are 21.25 inches long, and I estimated removing 2.5 inches to make them 18.75 inches.

Based on forum search, I'll be using Dutchman for the work, unless anyone has other suggestions.

Next up was the front sway bar. Way back at the start of the project I decided a through-the-body bar was not going to work due to all the new plumbing below the gas tank, so I bought a 911SC-era under-body bar on eBay, plus some urethane mounts on Amazon.

I shouldn't have done this - the through-the-body bar is a better design for maintaining suspension geometry and travel, and it turned out I did have room for the bar where it crossed under the gas tank - my radiator plumbing is just below, out of the way.

It turns out what I actually didn't have room for was the under-body bay, due to my hydralic clutch master cylinder and the bracket I made for it. So I had to do some surgery on the master cylinder, cutting off part of the casting (that would probably be tapped for a port in another application) and also the bracket on the car.

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This also gave me a chance to rethink my remote reservoir fill situation. I used a lightly used airplane brake line, that I had in my box of stuff, with an AN elbow fitting pushed into the rubber plug.

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The 10mm thin stainless washer on top is to stop the end of the fitting bottoming out in the cylinder. Works nice. Once back in place, I cable tied the braided hose to a neighboring hard brake line to stop it coming out.

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The bar just clears it all.

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My A-arms had tabs for the through-the-body bar, so I cut those off and made some loops to accommodate the under-body style bushings. The bushings I had were polyurethane and would not squeeze in, so I've ordered some rubber ones. They were hard to find in 19mm.

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After this, to offset any feeling that I was making progress, I decided to investigate why the top level on my heater controls was jammed all the way to the right. I managed to snap the handle off it. Great. After pulling the airbox out from under the scuttle and detaching the cable at the air box end, it's still jammed and I'm none the wiser.
mgp4591
QUOTE(76-914 @ Aug 25 2025, 08:59 AM) *

Toss the relay board James. It's just another source for problems with a 50yo car. There are just 6 or 9 wires, I forget, that you need. Cut the harness before the multi-pin connector. beerchug.gif

Kent, are original relay boards something that could be rebuilt for use in a stock build or are they readily available? If so, donate it!
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QUOTE(mgp4591 @ Aug 27 2025, 01:43 AM) *

QUOTE(76-914 @ Aug 25 2025, 08:59 AM) *

Toss the relay board James. It's just another source for problems with a 50yo car. There are just 6 or 9 wires, I forget, that you need. Cut the harness before the multi-pin connector. beerchug.gif

Kent, are original relay boards something that could be rebuilt for use in a stock build or are they readily available? If so, donate it!

I either sold or donated mine Michael. beerchug.gif
jamlip
In case anyone is reading this on their own Subaru swap adventure, the way to measure the axles is as follows.

With the car in the air and the suspension at full droop on the shocks, seat the outer CVs in the stubs. Slide the Subaru CV cup onto the output splines of the gearbox. Eyeball how long you think the axle would have to be to sit inside the cup and -just- have enough clearance to slide onto the gearbox output stubs.

Cut the axles a little longer than you think, then try them. Keep doing this till the assembly will slide onto the stubs. Mark everything up and send off to be cut (I'm using Dutchman in Meridian ID).

My lengths were 19.00" driver side, and 19.25" passenger side.

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jamlip
OK, planning out cutting the harness at the 14-pin relay board connector block. Here's what I've worked out each wire does. Figured this info could help someone down the line. There may be errors.

Pin 1 - Yellow - Power from ignition switch to starter solenoid.
Pin 2 - Blue - From board to dash alternator warning light.
Pins 3 & 4 - Gray / Brown - To and from backup light switch on transmission.
Pin 5 - Green / Red - To oil pressure warning light.
Pin 6 - Unused.
Pin 7 - Black / Pink - Tach feed from coil.
Pin 8 - Black - Power from fuse box to ignition coil.
Pin 9 - Green / White - From heater fan switch.
Pin 10 - Brown - Ground to power supply relay (#74).
Pin 11 - Green - Power to heater fan.
Pin 12 - Red - Power from battery to fuel pump relay.
Pin 13 - Black / Red - Power from relay to fuel pump (relay is controlled by ECU)
Pin 14 - Red - Power from Battery to power supply relay (#74).
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Ahaa! #1 is another relay I'd forgotten. Take that yellow wire to a relay that will provide power to the starter. Then take the ground from that relay to the neutral switch on the transmission. You'll need to change out the OEM neutral switch which is NC to one that is NO. This will ensure that you can't start it in gear. beerchug.gif
jamlip
Thanks Kent. I was going to send the yellow wire direct to the starter (no relay) seeing as it’s heavy gauge and the solenoid is doing the work of a relay anyway. Otherwise I have a relay controlling a relay. What do you reckon?

The neutral switch is a complication I will forgo on the basis that the first item in the first lesson for learning to drive in the UK is “how not to start a car in gear”. If you don’t understand and successfully execute that section, you don’t move on to the actual driving part.

Quite deep into the wiring now. I have removed a lot of it! Using the black switched 12v to trigger a set of fused relays which will send power to the ECU, coils, injectors and fuel pump.

QUOTE(76-914 @ Aug 27 2025, 09:21 PM) *

Ahaa! #1 is another relay I'd forgotten. Take that yellow wire to a relay that will provide power to the starter. Then take the ground from that relay to the neutral switch on the transmission. You'll need to change out the OEM neutral switch which is NC to one that is NO. This will ensure that you can't start it in gear. beerchug.gif
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