paul, please don't make me wait until next week. is it one or two?

High speed tracks: 2 coats. The c/d reduction at the very high speeds the 914 can produce can add as much as .8 mph on long straights.

Short tracks/AX: Not worth the weight penalty.

If it was $0.99 cheaper he would

Geez Trek, you sure do argue some weird points. Even to post pictures of all your chewed up wheels. Cap'n is right.

Invest in a set of proper lug nuts.

The studs seem fine to me. As long as you have enough engagement. You obvioulsy don't want the 3 turns Z was talking about but I don't see anything cheezy about the studs.

I think it would be a cool solution for 5-lug conversions vs. spot facing 4mm off the back of the hub off just to get a press in to sit right. You could screw them in and then rosette weld them from the backside (starting at the top and center of the stud and filling the hole). The only problem with that is... they're on there for life. You screw up a thread, break or bend one and your boned.

Probably around $30 clams for some nuts.

I have a nice set of front rotors, new seals and bearings already.

I need to press studs into these.
Then replace the rear wheel bearings and press into the hubs.

I have correct lug bolts on loan for the time being.

I'll return the studs to Stasis on friday between sessions.

Whose got a good source for really good press in studs?...


KT

VERBUS is the OEM stud for porsche... call GPR etc....

good stuff. not cheap. Ury mentioned moroso and ARP studs.....

should have you covered

154 posts?

can we let this thread die please?

guys, if you haven't noticed by now, trekkor will *never* listen to you,
no matter how hard you try.

Andy

I have to go pee.


B

Brad, you say that at the end of *every* phone conversation we have ever had...

"night of the living thread"


KT

it is still daytime.

I. P. Freely

I drink a lot of liquids. Keep's my prostate working well.

Ever seen me drink ice tea?

Are we off topic yet?


B

Nope. The discussion is still related to studs and nuts...

Nice one Mark.

I returned the parts today.

All the race team's cars were back in the shop.
They *all* use these. *every* car in this shop, track and street, has them. I feel kinda stupid. They obviously work.

KT

After all this I hope when you run your next a/x nutin' bad happens.

"nutin" and i mean nutin....

Hey I saw that car yesterday. ...Cant believe I missed this thread.

(the damn thing was five theads down from the top... good thing I caught it)

Holy bat-crap... it was all the way to the bottom!

No more trivial torque settings? No more significant stud findings? This can’t be over!! There must be a negligible nut issue… a trifling thread pitch finding or an inconsequential PVC fix for something…

Trek, I tried having you paged at the "Depot".

Hurry back! I’m having a thread withdrawal.

guys: trekkor makes a valuable contribution to this community, and he's a damn good fellow.

trekkor is not an expert -- 95% of those posting in this thread aren't experts -- but he would not knowingly put himself or others in danger. trek definitely should not have used nor insisted on the incorrect lug seats, but the problem has been solved.

trekkor gets a hard time for his 'home depot' modifications. while there are things on his car that i definitely don't like and wouldn't do to my own, the majority of such mods are totally benign even if they fail (e.g. air dam, brake ducting). the fact is, trekkor is out there on the track pushing his car, having fun, and being more cautious than most i see.

anyway, i know that 90% of you guys are just joking with him -- and i give him a hard time too! -- but please make it clear in your posts whether you're serious or not. if you have a problem with him, then by all means speak your mind -- but if you're just piling up on him for sport, then please go elsewhere.

as for the screw-in studs, it's true that STaSIS runs them on all of their A4 touring cars. this is a top-notch, highly credible team in the speed world challenge. while that doesn't make those particular studs any better, it certainly begs the question as to their viability.

just my 02, (nomex on)

nathan

Good post Nathan!

Trekkor I found eight more bolts if you still need them.

Awesome post Nathan... read my other one and relax. I think the studs are cool. I think Trek is cool.

I think you need a beer


(And yes, that was all typed with tongue firmly planted in cheek in case you can't see through the jest. I was more joking at the length of a stud thread than I was Trekkor)

good idea, eric! i'm gonna pop a steinlager right now

Steinlager!!! Is that the Kiwi beer?

How much to get a case here? My neighbor is a Kiwi and I owe him one.

yup. great lager... UPS can't be too bad! what could a 12-pack weigh? PM me and i'd be happy to send you out a box...

Yep, I'm just a normal guy trying to have a little fun with my track car.

Thanks Nate!

FYI:
After the first session at Sears we checked the torque on the stock lugs.
Some of them were 1/8 of a turn loose. Most were not.

The 911 guy pitting with me had the same thing with his pressed in studs.

After we retorqued that was it. Prolly related to the first session putting so much heat into to hubs.

I check the torque even more now...

Yes, Mark. I'd like to have those last 8 lugs.


KT

Ok, I'm a nummitz! I swapped on my summer wheels last week and mixed up the lug nuts (read: Forgot all about the fact that the winter rims have cone seat inserts, while the summer rims have ball seats...) Didn't remember till I found the box with the ball seat nuts in the garage. I drove two days before I swapped cars. Didn't like the way the brakes felt... Swapped in the ball seats this morning, before it hit 100.

It's funny, the A calipers on my black car don't seem as hard pedal-wise as the M's on the blue car. I took the prop valve out and put in a tee, but the other car WITH the stock prop valve feels better, maybe the master cylinder? Both ar 19mm.

Funnier is the fact that the black car always felt much better than the stock setup on the other car. In swapping the "Stock" 911 calipers for the A's, I found out why: Stock 911 REAR calipers! Thanks Partsheaven! (The struts, calipers and all came to me from Eric Geer, who got them from Mike Mueller, who got them from PH.) Oh and the Fuchs that I got from Eric with the filed out 'slots' required such large steel inserts that they were not available in ball seat or none of this would be necessary...