Whatever the speed is on a 120mph Speedo when the needle is pinned to the backside of the little post it rests on at 0mph.. Had 1000 RPM to go with my 2.6L Big Four (which is now being rebuilt by Rich Towle, the brave soul), but quite honestly, physics started to get the best of me and I backed off.

About 50 miles later, both of my rear wheel bearings were squealing like a catholic school girl at a Marilyn Manson concert (appologies in advance if any of you guys are catholic school girls in your spare time).

Top speed though? 190+mph in a Ferrari 360 Stradale at the Ford Desert Proving Grounds in Kingman, AZ (as passenger)
Fastest I've driven? 185 or so in a Shelby Series 1 Prototype
(ok, i'm done gloating)

-greg-

Between 140-150 down back straight at Road Atlanta in 3.0 track 914. no wing yet. It's still in the basement. Car was stable until turbos blow by you.

Suuuuwwweeeeetttttt!!!


All of that in an 1800lb speedster...woohoo..

Rich

I am sure I have been to 100 dozens and dozens of times in-between stop lights. On my trip to Washington I took it to 5k in 4th and with my 930 transmission thats kinda fast for me.

Given enough thrust pigs will fly or 65 Dodge Coronets off the flight decks of aircraft carriers. THats about the only way my 914 will ever pass 155. Blessings on the crew of the STENNIS and their support group. GO NAVY!

With all the v8 cars I am suprised at the speeds... For now my 914 has only seen towing speeds but I hope to see some insane speeds in the future.

my 74 911 with coil over suspension, 935 spring plates in the rear, 935 front suspension, 74 carrera tea tray spoiler, rsr front bumper with splitter has hit speeds upwards around 180 mph. Speedo only goes to 150 but that is at ~4750 - 5K rpm in 5th gear. So I can only guess what it was going at 6750 rpm in 5th. Engine is a 96 3.6 with SSI's, mildly warmed over and a chip. So somewhere around 315 - 325 HP. On the scales it weighs 2385 pounds.

Any pictures of your 911 Larry?

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(6750/5000) * 150 = 202 mph, how accurate was your speedo?

I've max my 150 mph speedo in the 914, but its about 7% off (due to 225/50/15 tires). So thats only about 140mph.

Remember, the car is drag limited too, so it could never reach those ideal speeds


Very, very nice car Larry

My speedo only goes to 150... when the same engine was in a 993 the factory posted a top speed of like 178 mph. I figure my car weighs about 1300 pounds less than the 993 and has been improved by about 25 or 30 hp so I had pure speculation at the 180 mph mark. It could have been at 200 things were moving by so fast that my eye sight /fear factor was the only thing that slowed me down. I hit those speeds in the middle of no where when I was driving it from Az. to Ca. .

Thanks, I am hoping to make my 914 the step up from the 911. I have seen so many 914's kick major 911 but at the track that I decided to build one. In Az. there was a 914 with a 3.6 that was almost 2 seconds a lap faster than my car. It could have been driver difference ... but I chose to believe that it was because the 914 handled so much better. 911's just cant hold the same line that a 914 can. I will start posting pics of the 914 this week when I get it back from the fab shop that put in the cage... will post more when it finishes at yeamen auto body with the sheridan motorsports flares... I will put a 220 mph spedo in the 914

Sweet I can't image how nice the 914 will be then. You could eat off of that 911

Is the 914 getting the 935 goodies in the front?

It might get exacly those 935 goodies. I would actually like to go to some bushings in the 911 to make it ride a little better. I have not decided yet. I have an aluminum cross member and A Arms so I dont know which will end up on the 914. Either way the 914 will get coil over front suspension though.

One thing that the 914 might get that the 911 could only dream of is a new corvette Z06 7.0 505 HP dry sump monster engine with a cable shifted G50... If cost was not a factor that is what I would use. ... If budget kicks in it will get a 400 hp aluminum LS1 with a 915 trans ... The evil speed monster in my head could win and combo 1 might end up in my 914

So Larry you own the car pictured on Patrick motorsports website RSR MULE Man that thing is out of sight

Thanks, It was featured in Nov. Excellence magazine too. It is not an RSR mule though... It is more of a 74 IROC inspired meets modern technology wet dream of mine. The article in excellence spells it out nicely. It is cool that they now use it in their adds and Linsey racing has it on their site too. It is a lot better to see that others appreciate it ...

Larry nice car!!

The v8's have the disadvantage of gearing and low rpm's. Most v8's dont pull much past 6k rpms. while T4's and Porsche 6's can rev past 7k. giving them MUCh more rpms' to work with in those gears.

Fastest sustained 100+. Alameda, Ca to San Diego, Ca in 7.5 hours with a witness in the passenger side on 101. Went thru LA at around 10pm.

1971 914-4 with a 2.0l. Still got over 30mpg. That was a great car.

Later, Don

With my turbo six, thank God i am limited by my top gear (Z).

Does Dave know you did that in his car?

Somewhere between 105-110 coming into LV on I-15. Stock '73, 2.0. Got passed by a BMW followed by a late model Chevy, but when on OLD Olds flashed by me with the fenders flapping like a set of wings, I couldn't stop myself-had to join in the chase. Never did catch up to the BMW and the Oldsmobile. I did catch and pass the Chevy. Decided to slow down when the windscreen started to bulge outward. Car felt stable the whole time though. Crazy fun.

Last month at the Cal Speedway NASA event I was hitting 147Mph (and the rev limiter) on the straightaway evey lap. Car was running 1:56 lap times. Took 5th place (out of 60 cars) on Saturday. On Sunday took a hit from an Accura and DNF'd. I have installed a rear wing on the car - it has always been a little tail happy.

Larry: I much appreciate that the big Porsche 6 can propel a 914 at 150+ mph easily. But what keeps it from getting light and floating off the track out of control. That is, what's your splitter, or whatever, and your spoiler or wing, or whatever. I haven't found a pic of the car--can you stick in in with a reply? My guess is the car wasn't originally expected/engineered to go better than 125 mph, while late model 911s are designed for over 175. True, 944 turbos have been pushed to max at over 200, but only white-nuckling on a straightaway. Can you race a 914 at 150? -Thanks,

Her name was Betty Sue & man was she hot Probably set a time record myself unfortunately

I have personally never had a problem with the 914 getting light at high speeds. Mine has alwas had the 916 front bumper. The rear end is a different story - usually loose. My laps time dropped 1.3 seconds on the 1.5 mile PIR road course and 2 seconds at Cal Speedway once I added the rear wing. Car is very stable now.

I saw 170MPH+ on 35E in St Paul, MN with two crotch rockets in tow. It started on a button hook curvy on ramp and I just kept my foot into it. I expected the bikes to over take me but they just got smaller in the rear view mirror. My car has a modified 500+HP LS6 & 930 gearbox. The air tunnel keeps the front glued down and the rear spoiler does a rather good job of keeping the ass planted.

136 mph , Gyla Ben ,Arizona, got a ticket on too . clocked me on the exit ramp at 95 in a 35 , pulled a gun on me before he ever said a word. freeked me out.

Hey Andy,

It was your car that inspired my 914 purchase. To bad I cant make the Az. auto x this year but I keep watching the dates... maybe some time later this year.

Larry

Larry,
I see you are from the East Bay Area. I bought the car from Tobias Onley in Oakland - he bought it from Alan Timmerman here in Phoenix. It's amazing how these cars get around. I'll be at Willow Springs Raceway this summer with NASA. It's a little closer to the Bay Area than Phoenix. We have one more autocross before the season restarts in the Fall. I'm planning on attending the Atomic Ramble in Albuquerque and possibly Moab again this Fall. I hope to see you around.

There's nothing like Willow Springs in the summer!

110mph in my 5 bolt converted 1974 1.8 with djet. South 15 downhill out of Fallbrook into Escondido just past the 76 (you know the spot). It was early and cold it had more, but I was just happy to get that out of that 4 banger. I also have a 1991 300CE MBZ, and I just got pulled over there doing well over 120mph. One CHP cruiser turned into 3 CHP cruisers and a bike. Guns drawn, creeping up on the passenger side. It was "not cool", I do believe those fellas would have taken me to jail, but a friend of mine intervened on my behalf - Thank god for cel-phones - "hey buddy, remember the great deal I got you on those parts for your car.... Well, Uh, I am in a bit of a jam here man..... I love that guy. Ticket says 90mph, and they wrote the tint, my lic plate cover and they were pissed. I think if I was them I woulda been too. Man I know I blew by that dude at 130 at least. That car reels in the highway. Anyway, save it for the track man... $450.00 is what that cost me /w Mr Ticket on board. I love that car........

I did 115 in my stock 1.7. Probally could have gone faster but i chickened out.

I have a 914/6 tube-framed car with a 2.7L 6 in it. I managed 150 according to a gear chart on the long course at Pocono Raceway. I have a wing on the car (and did at the time of the aforementioned run). Prior to adding the wing the car would get pretty light in the rear above 110 mph.

Hi, It's me, back from the dead....

130mph in my 1.7 on flat ground
Do I get the "fastest 1.7 award"?

I was tuning the digital EFI with a laptop & was watching the screen for boost-creep. It had more to go but intake temp had hit 190F and it was starting to knock (at 13psi boost). One of these days I'll replumb the intake to add the intercooler and we'll try again. I don't want to quit until it's faster than my M3.

-Ben M.

ps - my M3 head-butts the revlimiter at 147mph

Did 116 MPH according to my GPS on Laguna Seca a few weeks ago

Recent conversation with retired 82 year old racer Harald Von Keszycki still has him in the running for one of the fastest 914's with a production chassis.

A long long time ago Harald purchased Erwin Kremers 1970 LeMans winning 914/6 GT. He then built it into a monster in the mid 1970's. At its peak it ran in excess of 550 HP with just a little 2.1 Liter motor. It took a lot of bodywork to keep it on the ground at 180mph.

Later Group 5 cars (non production tube frame cars) which are essentially prototypes gave the Von K 914 a run for the money. With factory racing budgets they only beat it by few mph.

Taken from my friend Victor V. word for word who raced professionally with Harald Von K. "looking at Von K's 914 and telling him he was going to shoot somebody with the way the turbo system was configured . Sure enough, he burst a turbo wheel and shot a Datsun at Riverside".

Haralds response: "Yeah, and on the way out the turbine wheel knurled a spiral path into the inside of the tailpipe, sort of rifling its own barrel. Wish I had a picture".

Yes that is Ferry Porsche admiring Haralds work in the photo.

I grew up in SoCal and have seen this car when Harald had shop set up in Woodland Hills a long time ago. Was also fortunate to be able to hang out at Dan McLoughlin's shop in Burbank. Dan made the glass body panels for the Von K 914. Dan purchased A.I.R ( in name) from actor James Garner who started the AIR Racing Ream ( Vettes and Lola's). A little history few people remember. Dan is no longer involved with AIR. He sold it a few years ago. The quality of the glass today is not like it was.

Harald Von K has a small website with some cool reading. A good article from Classic VW's is on one of the links.
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A neat photo to go with the history of the Von K 914.

Pictured is a young Dave Bouzaglou (TRE Automotive) between the famous Solar Productions 917 (Steve McQueen- LeMans) and Harald Von K's 914 before the monster bodywork was installed. The location was AIR in Burbank.

The rest is history!

Stock 2.0L 4 -Cylinder back stretch at Watkins Glen at 119MPH

2.7L 6 Cylinder 914-6 139 MPH back stretch at Watkins Glen, could be faster with better gearing.

Harald sent me a little bit of racing history of his 914 and the 917 in the photo.

"That is the Monster under construction sitting next to Otis Chandler's 917. I was to beat Otis in that with my monster at Ontario Motor Speedway two years later in a time trial. Johnny Thomas, who nannied that car and Otis' 930, was much faster in them. I'm attaching a picture of the three cars at the annual Porsche Parade in San Diego".

Thanks again,
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Ralph Meany in his interview, stated 170+ with a naturally aspirated 2l 6. I think he has us all beat. Great pictures on his web site.

Ralph Meany

Well, My speedo is inop, but I received a ticket as I was going on a very fun drive. The officer said I went past him at 120, but he liked my car and wrote it for 80 . We talked about my car a little, and he let me go saying to contest it. I did and it was dismissed. The coolest cop ever.

I was going a bit faster before he caught me. I wish I knew how much.

That is one beautiful car !!!!!

Back to daredevil talk 90mph in my 73 2.0 on civilian roads.....120 mph in my 944 Turbo at Lime Rock thank God or Porsche for the great brakes on that car.

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Same PCA Parade in SD, that's me next to the Chandler 917/30. In another frame I can see Von K's front fender . At a POC event at RIR, I won a raffle for 5 laps in the 917/30 with Otis driving. I got into that little bucket seat and off we went for the most brutal E ticket ride of my life. The G forces and wind were sucking that bell helmet right off my head, I had a chin strap rash after the ride. The top gear acceleration down the back straight was similar to my FIRST gear launch in my car. There is no speedo in that car but Otis told me that we were topping 200.
BTW, he was an excellent road racer, surfer, scholar , gentleman . He changed my life with that car
Marty

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Been faster than this, I'd say around 140. At this point the WRX engine is just getting its legs. Alot left and pulling amazingly hard.

My GPS said I did 124 somewhere between Tampa and Tennessee on a recent trip. I think it was on an entrance ramp to I-75 just south of Macon.

Ed aka W9R1

Speedometer said 110 so I suppose 90? The 50 series tires mess things up by about 15% or so... But that was in a corner

Harold recently passed away. RIP Von K.

Somewhere around 117-119mph, I don't think I've ever actually hit 120 in it.

150 in my v8 small block 427 racing my cousin Rentech Mercedes AMG and his Lingenfelter Corvette. The Aero was really bad my cousin looked over and thought my hood was about to fly open and smack my windshield because of all the air going through the front radiator inlet opening. He said my hood was 6 inches up even with four hood pins. The front of that car must have felt like a brick with all that air going in and not fast enough to exit. All us guys with front radiators beware.