okieflyr
Aug 14 2010, 08:20 PM
That is a cool conversion. But now I'm going to have too listen to their exhaust beat before I taunt them too much with the teener. I have a water cooled conversion that I've been running a 5spd 012 and Boxster shifter for a few years now, and LOVE the shifting! Rock On!
jimkelly
Aug 15 2010, 07:53 AM
sweet cradle : )
love all the photos of the boxster : )
has anyone determined the robustness of the boxster transaxle, realted to a stock 914 transaxle, a 915 and a 930?
does the boxster have power assist steering??
i assume this conversion will have catalytic converters and pass 50 state emissions? or will this be strictly a track car?
no shortening of the oil pan - that will save some time and money : )
jim
GS Guy
Aug 15 2010, 08:38 AM
Nice work - but make sure it all fits the EZ30R too! Some Boxter owners might not want to step "down" from a 6 cylinder to a 4. The 30R should slot in there just as easily!
Now if someone would just offer a good looking flare package for the Boxter and help it "man-up" a little bit!
Jeff
RJMII
Aug 15 2010, 09:56 AM
QUOTE
has anyone determined the robustness of the boxster transaxle,
The boxster S six speed is STOUT.
It's the same one as in the Cayman, and an inverted version of the one in the new 911 turbo cars. (whatever number they are doing)
It will very easily handle the HP and Torque of a well
built Subie Turbo engine.
budman5201
Aug 15 2010, 12:43 PM
QUOTE(GS Guy @ Aug 15 2010, 07:38 AM)
Nice work - but make sure it all fits the EZ30R too! Some Boxter owners might not want to step "down" from a 6 cylinder to a 4. The 30R should slot in there just as easily!
Now if someone would just offer a good looking flare package for the Boxter and help it "man-up" a little bit!
Jeff
ez30R and ej20turbo both fit in renegades cradle with no mods. So i bet they will both fit in your cradle too! I love my ez30R.
Dr Evil
Aug 15 2010, 04:40 PM
Wow am I thankful. I was wondering what I was going to blow my money on when I start making some in 3 years
An EZ30R and an old boxter is a no brainer
charliew
Aug 16 2010, 04:16 PM
When you pull the pan on the suby motor check the pickup real close as they are known to be brittle from the brazing process at the block flange and the pan definately looks like it's against the pickup. a lot of suby pickups are too close to the pan and when guys jack the motors up against the pan bottom the pickup gap gets real tight and some pickups have broken either from vibration or getting fractured from hitting the pan.
wittmer25
Aug 23 2010, 11:58 AM
QUOTE(charliew @ Aug 16 2010, 02:16 PM)
When you pull the pan on the suby motor check the pickup real close as they are known to be brittle from the brazing process at the block flange and the pan definately looks like it's against the pickup. a lot of suby pickups are too close to the pan and when guys jack the motors up against the pan bottom the pickup gap gets real tight and some pickups have broken either from vibration or getting fractured from hitting the pan.
^ agreed, the pan has definately been lifted by the pan and has most likely damaged the oil pick-up. This engine is probably already got spun bearings due to oil starvation.
This engine cradle and tranny adapter looks excellent. You could easily get a ez30r in there with it being less than an 1" longer than a ej257 ect. A built ej257 with a gt35r can crank out over 500 whp/wtq. Most builds are probably between 350-400 whp/wtq. If the porsche tranny can hold up to this, it sounds like one hellofa setup.
jw
precisionchassis
Aug 25 2010, 04:06 AM
Turbo and supporting pieces...
PeeGreen 914
Aug 25 2010, 01:42 PM
Wow.... you do some very nice work and use choice colors. That green on the 914 is sweet
.
I may be in touch in about a year as I have been thinking of getting a Boxter for a daily. Sounds like a good way to go since I already know the Suby engines.
charliew
Aug 26 2010, 03:44 PM
Twin scroll, will you be able to use a factory header? It also looks like the motor cradle will allow a fatter oil pan but with the stuff you are doing it will probably be a dry sump right?
precisionchassis
Aug 26 2010, 05:30 PM
QUOTE(charliew @ Aug 26 2010, 02:44 PM)
Twin scroll, will you be able to use a factory header? It also looks like the motor cradle will allow a fatter oil pan but with the stuff you are doing it will probably be a dry sump right?
I'm not going to be using the factory manifolds. The factory exhaust is designed to run along the right side of the motor which is where the Boxster has it's shifter cables and linkage. I will be making custom stainless steel headers that will dump into the turbo on the left side of the transaxle. I'll have some pictures up in a few days of the exhaust.
No dry sump on this car (too expensive to justify)
precisionchassis
Sep 2 2010, 02:33 AM
Started on the wiring harness tonight. Here is the unmolested 2007 WRX harness ready to be "reduced" wire by wire...
precisionchassis
Sep 3 2010, 07:59 PM
Rotary'14
Sep 3 2010, 08:03 PM
That's a work of art. You do some awesome work. I love it and I don't even need it (yet).
-Robert
charliew
Sep 3 2010, 09:23 PM
The welds look good. Do you think the long tubes will hurt spool? And I wonder if water from the wheel will hurt the turbo housing.
Andyrew
Sep 3 2010, 10:31 PM
That is fuckin awesome...
Seriously.
Mike Bellis
Sep 3 2010, 11:12 PM
Britain Smith
Sep 3 2010, 11:23 PM
That looks fantasic. Where did you get the flanges against the heads? I will be making my own custom header here soon.
-Britain
precisionchassis
Sep 4 2010, 09:37 AM
QUOTE(charliew @ Sep 3 2010, 08:23 PM)
The welds look good. Do you think the long tubes will hurt spool? And I wonder if water from the wheel will hurt the turbo housing.
I'm not worried about lag in relation to header length. THe system is a little longer than the aftermarket Subie equal length headers, but not a whole lot longer once you take into consideration the length of the up-pipe. There's really no other place for the turbo to go in the chassis anyway. Besides, it worked on the 917/30 didn't it?
Water fron the wheel shouldn't be an issue since I will be retaining the rear wheel liners, and the fact that this car will be a track car.
precisionchassis
Sep 4 2010, 09:40 AM
QUOTE(Britain Smith @ Sep 3 2010, 10:23 PM)
That looks fantasic. Where did you get the flanges against the heads? I will be making my own custom header here soon.
-Britain
I had my water jet guy cut the flanges from some 1/2" thick 305 SS. I had him do a few sets so I have some extras if you want. Send me a PM if you are interested. When I was looking around for some for myself, I had a hard time finding any that were thick enough, or had the right 1.755" holes for the tubing to slide into.
bryanc
Sep 4 2010, 10:04 AM
Sweet!!! Is that my old car? One of those tons of Boxsters with a bad motor?
precisionchassis
Sep 4 2010, 10:08 AM
QUOTE(bryanc @ Sep 4 2010, 09:04 AM)
Sweet!!! Is that my old car? One of those tons of Boxsters with a bad motor?
Hahaha, yes it is. I'm breathing new life into it. I was going to have Jim tell you about but I wasn't sure if you were a "Porsche Purist" who would be offended by seeing it with something other than a Porshce motor in it
You should update your "signature" on the status of the car
bryanc
Sep 4 2010, 10:13 AM
QUOTE(precisionchassis @ Sep 4 2010, 09:08 AM)
QUOTE(bryanc @ Sep 4 2010, 09:04 AM)
Sweet!!! Is that my old car? One of those tons of Boxsters with a bad motor?
Hahaha, yes it is. I'm breathing new life into it. I was going to have Jim tell you about but I wasn't sure if you were a "Porsche Purist" who would be offended by seeing it with something other than a Porshce motor in it
You should update your "signature" on the status of the car
I'll update the signature. I'm certainly no purist. If my time and budget allowed, the car would have gotten something interesting done to it--I was thinking an Audi V8 though....
Zaney
Sep 4 2010, 09:15 PM
QUOTE(precisionchassis @ Sep 3 2010, 06:59 PM)
Seeing that exhaust in front would blow a Porsche snobs mind!
ottox914
Sep 5 2010, 06:58 AM
QUOTE(charliew @ Sep 3 2010, 07:23 PM)
The welds look good. Do you think the long tubes will hurt spool? And I wonder if water from the wheel will hurt the turbo housing.
That exhaust system is just amazing. Between that and the trans adapter, hope you are making good notes because you could be making more adapters and exhaust systems...
With a properly sized turbo the tubes length should not be a problem. Check out the turbo location in my turbo project thread below. Water/turbo housing has been a non-issue as well.
Also google up STS turbo systems, they do rear mount turbos for many other cars, and while it may be a little unconventional, it can work well.
Dr Evil
Sep 5 2010, 08:44 AM
I am awed by this build. One thing that I notice, though, is that your popes are really close to the gear box. Typically this can led to premature wear and failure. Is this something that you already considered and have provided for?
roadster fan
Sep 5 2010, 02:37 PM
QUOTE(Dr Evil @ Sep 5 2010, 07:44 AM)
One thing that I notice, though, is that your POPES are really close to the gear box. Typically this can led to premature wear and failure. Is this something that you already considered and have provided for?
Click to view attachment Click to view attachmenthuh? I missed those guys in his pics
is this like "where's waldo?"
Jim
Dr Evil
Sep 5 2010, 06:31 PM
Blah blah, I was typing on my iPod. It is not easy
precisionchassis
Sep 5 2010, 10:54 PM
To answer your question, Yes, I do plan on heat wrapping the entire system, and adding strategic heat shields where they are needed. Also, this car will have a transmission oil cooler (as all track cars should) so I'm not really concerned.
precisionchassis
Sep 5 2010, 10:55 PM
oh, and yes, I am keeping very detailed notes on everything. I'm not building this with the intentions of making a "one-off".
ottox914
Sep 6 2010, 06:54 AM
QUOTE(Dr Evil @ Sep 5 2010, 06:44 AM)
I am awed by this build. One thing that I notice, though, is that your pipes are really close to the gear box. Typically this can led to premature wear and failure. Is this something that you already considered and have provided for?
I was noticing the same thing- maybe if/when this system proves itself durable they could be jet hot coated. Kind of a shame to hide that nice SS work, but I coated the 914T exhaust and it was a good thing for temp control under the car.
precisionchassis
Sep 9 2010, 05:37 PM
The wiring harness has been reduced to only what is needed to make the engine run.... hopefully.
And here's what wasn't used...
precisionchassis
Sep 14 2010, 02:39 AM
jimkelly
Sep 14 2010, 06:33 AM
thanks for keepin the pics coming : )
Britain Smith
Sep 14 2010, 10:39 AM
Looks cool. Did you mold the whole thing or adapt it from something else? Any pictures of the process as you went?
-Britain
precisionchassis
Sep 14 2010, 01:22 PM
QUOTE(Britain Smith @ Sep 14 2010, 09:39 AM)
Looks cool. Did you mold the whole thing or adapt it from something else? Any pictures of the process as you went?
-Britain
I made the whole thing from scratch. Cut and glued foam to the car, sculpted the foam in the shape I wanted, covered the body with mold release in the flange areas, fiberglassed over the foam, removed everything from the car and scraped the foam out. Then sanded the fiberglass, body worked it, and sprayed it with a primer filler. I'll probably block it one more time, touch up any low spots, primer it again, then final sand it before I make the mold. It's a lot of work for sure. I'll have about 35 hours into the prototype part.
Britain Smith
Sep 14 2010, 03:32 PM
Yep, been there, done that. It looks good though.
-Britain
bryanc
Oct 9 2010, 11:13 AM
Any updates???
precisionchassis
Nov 4 2010, 01:27 PM
Boxsterund914
Nov 10 2010, 03:34 PM
Are those rear flares something you made? If not, who did you source them from?
precisionchassis
Nov 10 2010, 03:49 PM
A.I.R. makes the flares, but I have to warn you... if you are used to the way the 914 and air cooled 911 flares are added, you will be amazed at how much more work it takes to do flares on the rear of a Boxster. It involved cutting the quarter panels (obviously) but you also have to reconstruct the inner wheel-well a bit because it will no longer extend all the way out to the flare, and you will be left with a large gap that would allow the inner quarter panel to fill up with road debris, water, or whatever. Also, to date, A.I.R. doesn't sell a flared rear bumper, so you have to bond the flare to both the quarter panel, and rear bumper, then cut the flare in two along the stock body line, then fiberglass new "flanges" on both the bumper piece, and quarter panel piece. In short, if you aren't comfortable with cutting, welding, sheetmetal fabrication, body work, and fiberglass work, you will have to pay the big $$$ to have it done by a shop.
Hontec
Nov 10 2010, 04:04 PM
Beautiful work!!!
precisionchassis
Nov 13 2010, 07:21 PM
precisionchassis
Dec 2 2010, 08:01 PM
Air-Jacks added...
Andyrew
Dec 2 2010, 10:43 PM
Air jacks are so cool!
geniusanthony
Dec 3 2010, 01:06 AM
I think your doing a great job on this build. The cage work looks pretty amazing, one of the touches I like are the gussets on the door bars. What is the proper name for those chamfered holes in the gussets called and what tool do you make them with? Regarding the air duct, It looks like the area across the rear window gets much larger there. Of note is the cross section at the base of the rear window. If you wanted the regain some of your rear window use, what do you think would happen if you where to narrow that section at the window while maintaining the profile? Would not the velocity of the air remain higher and that being what cools the intercooler aid in heat dissipation?
Just some thoughts I had while reading, great project though, can't wait to see it come together.
precisionchassis
Dec 14 2010, 07:01 PM
precisionchassis
Dec 30 2010, 03:46 AM
Jeroen
Dec 30 2010, 08:22 AM
awesome fabwork (as usual)
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