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OmaPossu
Hello,
This is a thread about late hours in my garage trying to get 1970 914-6 back to life.

There are already hundreds pics in here:
http://www.harrasteet.1g.fi/kuvat/OmaPossu+II/

One question, what are these holes for? Spot welding?
http://www.harrasteet.1g.fi/kuvat/OmaPossu...+1.5.11+009.JPG
IronHillRestorations
I don't know for sure, but my guess is those holes are for when they dipped the bodies at the factory.
carr914
I've got a box of the covers for those holes somewhere
RFoulds
Are the flares steel or fiberglass? What is the serial number? I am constantly trying to find my old one.

Add the serial number to the database please!
Jeffs9146
QUOTE(RFoulds @ May 2 2011, 11:49 AM) *

Are the flares steel or fiberglass? What is the serial number? I am constantly trying to find my old one.

Add the serial number to the database please!


9140472344 It is in the data base under my name Jukka bought it earlier this year! I also sold him some steal flares to replace the fiberglass ones!!
Ferg
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Just had a guest at the house from Finland biggrin.gif Great cook!
SirAndy
QUOTE(OmaPossu @ May 1 2011, 11:29 PM) *
One question, what are these holes for? Spot welding?

That would be my guess ... popcorn[1].gif
OmaPossu
Then to the biggest problem of this car. Drivers side front corner has some signs of past accident. It's been repaired badly. It's more than inch up and and bent little right too. That can be taken care with "celeste bench".
Front boot floor has some bad crinkles (right word?) and inner fender is not right shape. How to take care these?
Some pics there: http://harrasteet.1g.fi/kuvat/OmaPossu+II/...t+boot/Problem/
SirAndy
The celette bench will get the basic attachment points back to factory specs.

The wrinkled sheet metal will need to be replaced or hammered back to where it belongs.

I'm in the same boat with my original /6. Tons of sheet metal that needs replacing or massaging. A good automotive body guy will know how and what to do.

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Drums66
...WELCOME to the world
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OmaPossu
I found some numbers in trunk floor.
132045

Karman chassis numbers? Or what?
SirAndy
QUOTE(OmaPossu @ May 18 2011, 10:58 AM) *
I found some numbers in trunk floor.
132045

Karman chassis numbers? Or what?

Yes, that's the chassis number. Also usually written with crayon on the backside of the dash sub-frame.
carr914
QUOTE(OmaPossu @ May 18 2011, 01:58 PM) *

I found some numbers in trunk floor.
132045

Karman chassis numbers? Or what?


Rear Trunk, correct - that is the Chassis #
OmaPossu
From where I can check it's correct one for this car?
SirAndy
QUOTE(OmaPossu @ May 18 2011, 12:00 PM) *
From where I can check it's correct one for this car?

A quick search using the keywords "+chassis +number" got quite a few results, including the one below.

http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=116615

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carr914
QUOTE(OmaPossu @ May 18 2011, 03:00 PM) *

From where I can check it's correct one for this car?


I find it hard to imagine anyone would try to change that number - most people don't even know it's there. And I've seen them in at least 2 different spots
Jeffs9146
QUOTE(carr914 @ May 18 2011, 12:53 PM) *

QUOTE(OmaPossu @ May 18 2011, 03:00 PM) *

From where I can check it's correct one for this car?


I find it hard to imagine anyone would try to change that number - most people don't even know it's there. And I've seen them in at least 2 different spots



I did research on this over the years and it does have the correct numbers for a 1970 914-6 as it is discribed in the link Andy posted!

Notice the chassis number is 2045 and the vin number is 2344 so they are within 299 chassis!
OmaPossu
Behind this link is pic of two kind of front brake heat shields.
http://harrasteet.1g.fi/kuvat/OmaPossu%20I...nt%20brakes.JPG
Which is right for -70 914-6?
sixnotfour
the left one
Jeffs9146
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It is the one on the left and the part# is 914.351.801.00!

The one in the parts catiloge only shows 5 holes around the center in the photo but I would guess that is just to represent the differences!

Rob-O
The holes in the floor are definitely for the arms of the spot welder to get into position. For instance, think about the center tunnel and how it's welded to the floor pan. Also the cross members were spot welded and those holes would've been used for that as well.

Our 914's were never dipped for paint (or anything else). That technology wasn't widespread in factories until after the 914 was out of production.
clow
Wow the front steering/suspensions looks great!
I am interested in following this project!


Cheers,

Clow
OmaPossu
One question (not my car), are all 2,0l four cylinder 914:s with D-jetronic? With extra point's in distributor?
Dave_Darling
Originally, yes.

Only the 1.8s were not D-jet from the factory.

--DD
OmaPossu
How to protect cleaned nuts and bolts against rost? How did those came from factory?
I am not sure whats right word but "yellow galvanizing" or something like that perhaps?
http://harrasteet.1g.fi/kuvat/OmaPossu+II/...11+007.JPG/full
Niklas
They are all yellow cromated.
In swedish - gulkrommaterade.
I have a list of all the parts you need.
I can send it to you.
I can show were to buy it in germany.

Niklas
OmaPossu
Niklas, please send info to me.
In finish language "keltapassivoitu"
OmaPossu
And now pedals. From here
http://harrasteet.1g.fi/kuvat/OmaPossu%20I...+1.1.12+005.JPG
to here
http://harrasteet.1g.fi/kuvat/OmaPossu+II/...+6.1.12+007.JPG
new bushings ofcourse.

Slowly..
OmaPossu
QUOTE(Niklas @ Dec 3 2011, 10:56 PM) *

They are all yellow cromated.
In swedish - gulkrommaterade.
I have a list of all the parts you need.
I can send it to you.
I can show were to buy it in germany.

Niklas


Can you send me that list and address, Niklas?

-JR-
Unrelated, but I love the Quattro there too!
OmaPossu
QUOTE(-JR- @ Jan 9 2012, 09:11 AM) *

Unrelated, but I love the Quattro there too!


We have 5 months winter here in Finland and got to have some 4wd fun some times piratenanner.gif
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OmaPossu
Little progress again, from here

http://harrasteet.1g.fi/kuvat/OmaPossu+II/...+7.1.12+009.JPG

to here

http://harrasteet.1g.fi/kuvat/OmaPossu+II/...13.1.12+008.JPG

Every now and then I wonder why I am spending my time doing this! Time and a lot money! It would be so much easier to just buy good 914-6 and do this with it

http://harrasteet.1g.fi/kuvat/Audi+quattro...T9F_1967_HR.jpg

OmaPossu
What does this "B2." mean? It's in steering wheels center pad.
http://harrasteet.1g.fi/kuvat/OmaPossu%20I...23.1.12+005.JPG

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Andyrew
No clue. Love the Coupe Quattro though!
OmaPossu
QUOTE(Andyrew @ Jan 23 2012, 09:25 PM) *

No clue. Love the Coupe Quattro though!


Btw it's called Audi Quattro here in Europe (Coupe quattro is without turbo engine and has narrow body).
Andyrew
Good to know! Regardless its one of my favorite Audi's. smile.gif
OmaPossu
What is right colour to steering wheel metal parts? Satin black?
http://harrasteet.1g.fi/kuvat/OmaPossu%20I...24.1.12+001.JPG
OmaPossu
I think between steering wheel and horn pad should be something "elastic"? What?

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I got new pictures of my previous project, -71 914 1,7. These pictures were in local magazine Klassikot about year ago. Nice pics smile.gif

http://harrasteet.1g.fi/kuvat/OmaPossu/2010/Klassikot+311/
toolguy
check the Karman number against your transmission number. . On my six they match. . and I'm 400 units before your number. .
OmaPossu
QUOTE(toolguy @ Jan 27 2012, 05:54 PM) *

check the Karman number against your transmission number. . On my six they match. . and I'm 400 units before your number. .


How? Where?
Jeffs9146
The transmission was updated to a side shift long ago!
skota
Nice collection of cars you have there! well done!
OmaPossu
QUOTE(Jeffs9146 @ Jan 27 2012, 08:57 PM) *

The transmission was updated to a side shift long ago!


Changed or updated? I think it's possible to rebuild tail shift to side shift, am I right?
OmaPossu
QUOTE(skota @ Jan 27 2012, 09:30 PM) *

Nice collection of cars you have there! well done!


Kotajarvi is Finish name and you have quattro so you must be allmoust relative wink.gif
Jeffs9146
QUOTE(OmaPossu @ Jan 27 2012, 11:48 AM) *

QUOTE(Jeffs9146 @ Jan 27 2012, 08:57 PM) *

The transmission was updated to a side shift long ago!


Changed or updated? I think it's possible to rebuild tail shift to side shift, am I right?


When we talked about it I was sure it was changed due to the serial number on the trans!

Here is one of the e-mail conversations
2011/1/26 Jeff Tuck <jeffs9146@yahoo.com>

I do not know anything about the original transmission! It was swapped out before I got it and the person who sold it to me didn't know anything either! I would try to get a COA and see if the transmission number is listed! There was a guy keeping track of all 914-6's in the USA and I spoke with him once. He told me the car was sold in Palo Alto so you may be able to call the dealership and get some history?? (just a thought!)

Don't forget to put fluid in the transmission before you install it!
Dave_Darling
QUOTE(OmaPossu @ Jan 27 2012, 06:31 AM) *

I think between steering wheel and horn pad should be something "elastic"? What?



This:

http://www.pelicanparts.com/cgi-bin/ksearc...347-823-01-M100

--DD
OmaPossu
QUOTE(Jeffs9146 @ Jan 27 2012, 10:08 PM) *

QUOTE(OmaPossu @ Jan 27 2012, 11:48 AM) *

QUOTE(Jeffs9146 @ Jan 27 2012, 08:57 PM) *

The transmission was updated to a side shift long ago!


Changed or updated? I think it's possible to rebuild tail shift to side shift, am I right?


When we talked about it I was sure it was changed due to the serial number on the trans!

Here is one of the e-mail conversations
2011/1/26 Jeff Tuck <jeffs9146@yahoo.com>

I do not know anything about the original transmission! It was swapped out before I got it and the person who sold it to me didn't know anything either! I would try to get a COA and see if the transmission number is listed! There was a guy keeping track of all 914-6's in the USA and I spoke with him once. He told me the car was sold in Palo Alto so you may be able to call the dealership and get some history?? (just a thought!)

Don't forget to put fluid in the transmission before you install it!


Yes, so it was!
Sorry, english is not my main language! I'll ask another way, if I have tail sift gearbox can I change it to side shift without changing transmission case (shell)?

I'll asked Finnish Porsche dealer to find out my transmission number but nothing come out. Have to ask direct from Zuffenhausen.




Jeffs9146
Yes you can!

You need a side shift tail cone with parts, shifter plate, shifter, shifter bar and bushings.

I'm sure the good Dr. has more detail but that still wont make it a numbers matching transmission!

The number on the 914-6 transmission starts with 914/01!

Link to 901 detail information!
OmaPossu
QUOTE(Jeffs9146 @ Jan 28 2012, 06:13 PM) *

Yes you can!

You need a side shift tail cone with parts, shifter plate, shifter, shifter bar and bushings.

I'm sure the good Dr. has more detail but that still wont make it a numbers matching transmission!

The number on the 914-6 transmission starts with 914/01!

Link to 901 detail information!


Thats good to know! Now I can tell my friend, who bought my ex 914, that he can change that crappy old tail shift to side shift without buying new transmission! Or would it be easier/cheaper to buy used side shift trans?
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