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veekry9
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The curve,modified,soon to be tweaked,again.
Testing..
In the light metallic blue they look so good in,some sky colour.
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250LM Stradale,V12 Longitudinal.
You might have something there,a germ of the ideas they had in the late 50's.
Later,Lamborghini turned things around with the Miura and Countach.
http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?sho...2522&st=199
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veekry9
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Some mods,and a scraper,with 916 style diverters.
Hmmm..what will I do next?A stretch and a raising of the rear trunkline.
To make room.
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sixnotfour
just buy a 904 body and ..... there was a show once called "chop cut rebuild"
veekry9
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https://www.youtube.com/results?search_quer...hop+cut+rebuild
I looked at a few episodes,when possible,liked the show and the work done.

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Purchase a windscreen from Pilkington.
http://www.pilkington.com/en-gb/uk/automot...-models/porsche
Then,create the surround and underlying cage structure.
The male plug for the molds,drawn in cad,machined in cam,polished to symmetry.
Later,if one wished,a sheetmetal skin could be pounded and wheeled out,because aluminum is light too.
http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?sho...=247031&hl=
A 904 replica or homage is a worthy endeavor,if done well.((Edit:08/12/16):The 904's windscreen looks pure sex on the 914's lower body,so well raked)
A drawing of a trial fit has inspired a 250LM comparision,and although flattering,the windscreen is the only similarity,and differently sized.
Neato,the smaller,narrower,904's glass and roofline makes the sectioned,stretched 914 bodyshell slicker.
A lot of work,the drawings the plan,and only the seed,or beginning,of a total custom.
With a pumped up P6 or H6,the performance would satisfy,briefly.
Go ahead,resurrect a 914 near you,instructions can be found here on the World.
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QUOTE(Dave_Darling @ Oct 22 2013, 09:34 PM) *

How the heck do you fit that thing in a 914????
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Ferrari fit 'that thing'(the Columbo 3.3L V12),into a 250LM,with some well planned,(drawn),forethought.
The 250LM has a WB 50mm(2") shorter than the 914,so,it is a tight squeeze.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ferrari_250
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ferrari_Colombo_engine
https://www.google.ca/search?q=ferrari+V12+...DmKnYOo9fAUM%3A
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veekry9
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Well,I raised the rear trunkline,widened the fender at the rear wheel,
and generated a creaseline that fades in as it goes forward,from the top of the fender,fading out toward the rear of the front wheel opening lip.
The top of the front fender has been given a more pronounced curvature that fades into the top of the doorskin,a subtle hint of TR,Pininfarina.
Similar to what I did to the metallic blue stretch.
http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?sho...2522&st=171
Soon to be scooped,a huge character change,from mild to wild.
Still maintaining the 914 targa curve,modded.
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Rand
You have mad photochop skills. But I'm with the previous thoughts: Too much sail swoop. A couple of the real pics posted look better. Just a $.01, not critical. beerchug.gif
veekry9
Gimp.
Very much a newbie with the software,functions easily enough for my needs,quick.
What's great is the programmable functions,for custom effects.
Used as a front end for cadcam and blender,versatile.
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What is the 'swoop'you speak of? biggrin.gif
Is what you are describing,actually a 'curve'? unsure.gif

Here are some:enjoy.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curve
https://www.google.ca/webhp?sourceid=chrome...al+shipbuilding
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spline_interpolation
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-uniform_rational_B-spline
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B%C3%A9zier_curve
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parabola
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyperbola
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epicycloid
https://www.google.ca/search?q=triangular+t...QssDvYQ_AUICCgB
https://www.google.ca/search?q=nurb+surface...SyDAeUQ_AUIBigB

Machined,by spline(nurb) interpolation,molds,dies,and various other light and heavy metals,and composites.
Decades of the work,never heard anyone describe a 'swoop',tho I have seen a Red Tail Hawk swoop for a mole.
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veekry9
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Wilder,needs a wing and a scraper.
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worn
QUOTE(veekry9 @ Apr 15 2014, 10:02 AM) *

OK.here's the plan..
Get 2 sets of cases,and weld them together after machining the front and rear off each respective set.
Front 2 and rear 2.Makes a long case to carry 8 cylinders.
Look,if the guy in Aus can weld magnesium cases,it would have to be easier to do the same to 356 T6 alloy cases.
Marginally easier admittedly,but possible to achieve the exalted F-8.
Fun with TIG,in an oven,inert gas flushed...


Although not as ultra cool, you needn't physically join the engines. I grew up in Seattle where they imported a lot of foreign. An informal drag strip was down by Shilshole Bay. I would swear there were stories about a VW beetle with twin engines. One mounted in the passenger compartment. Getting the power of the second engine to the ground might be tricky with a 914.
sixnotfour
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QUOTE(veekry9 @ Apr 15 2014, 10:02 AM) *

OK.here's the plan..
Get 2 sets of cases,and weld them together after machining the front and rear off each respective set.
Front 2 and rear 2.Makes a long case to carry 8 cylinders.
Look,if the guy in Aus can weld magnesium cases,it would have to be easier to do the same to 356 T6 alloy cases.
Marginally easier admittedly,but possible to achieve the exalted F-8.
Fun with TIG,in an oven,inert gas flushed...


Although not as ultra cool, you needn't physically join the engines. I grew up in Seattle where they imported a lot of foreign. An informal drag strip was down by Shilshole Bay. I would swear there were stories about a VW beetle with twin engines. One mounted in the passenger compartment. Getting the power of the second engine to the ground might be tricky with a 914.


Golden Gardens...pretty much shut down when I was 16
veekry9
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The rear axle cls are aligned.Scaled +/- 0.5mm:
WB:
250LM 2400mm
914 GT 2450mm

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WB:
250 LM 2400mm
904GTS 2300mm

904GTS builds:
http://www.ddk-online.com/phpBB2/viewtopic...=15&t=51499
http://www.early911sregistry.org/forums/sh...ca-build-thread
http://members.shaw.ca/p904/

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So,a tight squeeze for sure,some good planning.
A primer for those welding their own frame,triangulation for stiffness.

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Countach Chassis.The strength and stiffness is obvious,not a dainty bridge at all.
A well done set of girders at the hips,side intrusion 'beams',tough.
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worn

Although not as ultra cool, you needn't physically join the engines. I grew up in Seattle where they imported a lot of foreign. An informal drag strip was down by Shilshole Bay. I would swear there were stories about a VW beetle with twin engines. One mounted in the passenger compartment. Getting the power of the second engine to the ground might be tricky with a 914.
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Golden Gardens...pretty much shut down when I was 16
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Fittipaldi had one.
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Not to spoil the other aspect of producing the most beautiful fairy dust. I kinda think we aren't in PhotoShop anymore.
worn
QUOTE(veekry9 @ Jul 25 2016, 01:40 PM) *


The rear axle cls are aligned.Scaled +/- 0.5mm:
WB:
250LM 2400mm
914 GT 2450mm



That frame makes me feel old. So pretty, and you end up crouched in one of the side trays. I would need a chain hoist to get in and out. Somewhere along the way my get up and go left. The matching work aligning the two cars is awesome.
veekry9
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QUOTE(veekry9 @ Apr 15 2014, 10:02 AM) *

http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?sho...22522&st=47
OK.here's the plan.. happy11.gif
Get 2 sets of cases,and weld them together after machining the front and rear off each respective set.
Front 2 and rear 2.Makes a long case to carry 8 cylinders.
Look,if the guy in Aus can weld magnesium cases,it would have to be easier to do the same to 356 T6 alloy cases.
Marginally easier admittedly,but possible to achieve the exalted F-8.
Fun with TIG,in an oven,inert gas flushed... biggrin.gif


Although not as ultra cool, you needn't physically join the engines.I grew up in Seattle where they imported a lot of foreign.
An informal drag strip was down by Shilshole Bay.I would swear there were stories about a VW beetle with twin engines.One mounted in the passenger compartment.
Getting the power of the second engine to the ground might be tricky with a 914.


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Well,a 912 engine,being hard to come by,may be replicated with Two Subaru Tribeca Sixes. blink.gif
A gang of two,as the Fittipaldi brothers did long ago.The plan worked. biggrin.gif
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http://bringatrailer.com/2014/08/19/flat-t...-canam-tribute/
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veekry9
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Well,I did purchase a 1:18 diecast model of the 250LM as a gift,some half dozen yrs ago.
But no,the intent was to trial fit the 914 with the sloped LeMans windsceen,as it has a more rounded profile.
*The 250 LM glass by the way,is only available to the owners of the original cars,factory,I believe.And pricey.*
(edit:07/23/16)Totally wrong on that,it is then,possible to meld a 250's windscreen onto a 914's chassis. evilgrin.gif
Gee,thanks,[sixnotfour],I would never have considered the proposal.*A wider,taller windshield,allowing more shoulder room.*
(edit:07/27/16):Well,after some measurements,it is the 904's windscreen that is taller,the 250's is wider and more sloped.
http://www.pilkington.com/en-gb/uk/automot...-models/ferrari

But,the Lancia Stratos windscreen is a piece that is not too dear.
Way rad.
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sixnotfour
NO
veekry9
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250LM=914-8,a comparison I never considered,because it's ludicrous,as demonstrated above.
Pretty extreme concept,huh?This one is the Stratos glass,the roofline of the 914,lowered to meet the top of it.~50mm.
The A pillar is closely matched to the Stratos glass's trailing edge,changed to meet the taper to the top.
After all,many a 914 windshield is damaged,as is the chassis.A derelict rusted varmint nest,in a field,free.
Some consider the 914's bare bones as a starting point,a basic map on which to draw a path to a nirvana of one's preference.
The chassis,when lowered from the standard ride height,makes for altered suspension geometry,nasty at the edge.
Chopping,channeling,lengthening,bigblock,turbo,lpg,nitromethane,lakes,and more.
This is the pix,leave your preconceptions and dogmas behind when you enter here.Open your mind,start the Reactor.
Kick an idea or two,one of your own,that you made yourself,or not.
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Original 250s
You know if you belong. If you don't,we'll tell you.
17M
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sixnotfour
Better

you need some
veekry9
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Yang,I need more Yang,Yin,I got.
Now,where did I put that pen?
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CadCam that simply works well.
https://www.rhino3d.com/...1K,USA
http://madcamcnc.com/...1K--6K,Sweden
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sixnotfour
Head Start;

http://www.ebay.com/itm/162154394356?force...6&viewitem=
sixnotfour
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My 914
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No, No, No...its all wrong.
sixnotfour
what ..what ?? have not read the whole thread,,almost fits...needs a windshield Hahahaha
veekry9
Neato!
A unique sail treatment,and it appears that they love the shape,guiding the air behind the targa.
I haven't decided,and will wait for the completed product,and the slot is an interesting feature.
The sizing of the grated opening and exit of the air passages makes one wonder at the flow produced.
I feel the sail,extended so far aft,hides the fender's top curvature,a detail defining the 914's rear.
The early Cayman is a good example of the desire to maintain a discrete rear fender curve.

https://www.google.ca/search?q=lancia+gamma...g1byU7fwoixM%3A

The tapered sail has been popular since the 904 and Dino 246,and tagging a pair onto a mid engine is also a popular pastime.
Expectations of conformity and adherence to stock outlines,particularly in California,are timid and the opposite of the flashy fastback.

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This looks ok,911 sail looking.
Rand
Not a 914 anymore. But a better nod to their brethren than most of the other hacks we see.
veekry9
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This color is Olive Gold.

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A red wine color,wb 2630,for the longer engine.
Later,I'll make some mods to cool better and reduce drag.
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sixnotfour
better copyright/ pattend / trademark , the 5 paddle 4 lug style fuch...don't let MW see this....
veekry9
To be modified slightly,I feel the petals are too wide,a '60s flower power fad.
Ties of that style were the rage at the time,seen in 'Austin Powers'.
I'll narrow them to see if there is an improvement,a subjective perception.
I wanted to try a ten hole wheel,and I like the Four-Fuchs raised hammering.
Doing one without the high contrast black paint,looking good.
You're right though,looked and haven't found any wheels similar to this design.
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Shelby Talladega Wheel beer.gif
veekry9
^Unlike.
Maybe there is someone out there,liking that.
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Fourth iteration.

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veekry9
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Chrome Yellow.
Larger punchouts.
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veekry9
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CadCam,Domed Surfaces.
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veekry9
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Big sloped windscreen,sidemount radiators,anodized wheels.

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Desert Eagle .60
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Wheelbase stretch,much more rubber and the power to be quick.
The windscreen has been replaced with a curved piece,the wipers stowed below the frunklid.
Sidemount rads,integral cage,doors that carry the cage intrusion panels.
Climate controlled for the desert heat in which it runs.
A scraper for the road,the martian v-wing optional.
Obsidian Black with a light dusting of gold flake and a pearl clear topcoat.
The nose is a modded late bumper,2" longer,4" deeper,led array hidden by lcd gorilla glass.

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P-Porn for you.
Bottom end of sleeved and stroked Porsche V8.
http://www.928motorsports.com/parts/stroker_crank.php
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sb914
:bump:Come out ,come out, wherever you are?
BeatNavy
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Carbon-14
Vitor has left the planet.
A few years now, took the illness to the universe.
nc, cnc machinist since the '60s, large heavy work, turbines, tiny keys for AV8B's.
Wrote good code, parametrics, multi languages, no bs.
I liked some of his drawings, went out a space kadet.
Well, someone will have to build a few.

This is one of his last, called it Baltic Black 07, the curve of the trunklid is mirrored by the edge of the fender, allowing the fender's line to rise above the lid, higher.
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Carbon-14
More, Black Street 09.
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Carbon-14
veekry9 post Oct 20 2014, 06:56 PM Post #140
Black Field 05
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Carbon-14
GreenMetal 11
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Carbon-14
Mike Bellis post Oct 22 2013, 11:41 PM Post #24
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6 x 6 5th wheel support

Cab Forward 06
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A Tow Tonka 914, 6x6 5th wheel, Porsche Diesel.
rhodyguy
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tygaboy
I want to build Baltic Black 07!
Carbon-14
We have detailed drawings, monocoque load structures on both ends.
I've been looking, there is a fellow who has reversed the direction of the front torsion bars on his build, now pointing to the rear, like the Mopars, to better stiffen the factory pan, could be an elegant solution for the 904-14-6.
He released the sketches as a stimulating idea board, a unusual approach for a liquid cooled -14, sidemount radiators and plenums. Looking beneath the rear bumper, full length venturis, the targa exhaust vents are functional, hot air out.

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Drive your street 914-6 to the race,
change into your firesuit while the slicks are installed, win, drive back to the beach.
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Cayenne Turbo drivetrain not a real Porsche,
'66 Corvair Targa.
Chopped sectioned short wheelbase. Yes, -14 pop ups.
https://www.xcsdesigns.co.uk/how-it-works

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'66 Corvair Subaru 6 turbo power, a mid.
Heavily influenced by Porsche, a lot of difficult work on the rear to build the roofline, glass, vents.
The fastback Corvair GM never made in '67, the coupe, swb.
Pulled from the weeds, made new.
sixnotfour
Carl Young did it and raced it, through Nevada..
Carbon-14
Great idea, like to see more photos, looks a '70s era modification.
He laid the windscreen back a little, widebody doors, no intake scoops for cooling and aero assist air. A wing is missing. An 8mm movie converted to video, cellcam photo.
...'89 tv camera.
He did 175mph trap speed.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-gbxbXYa1lg

sixnotfour
Silver State Challenge VHS he talks about it. only place I have ever seen the 914...
Carbon-14
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Silver State Challenge VHS he talks about it. only place I have ever seen the 914...


Could you be more specific.
Looked around, couldn't find the video, I did find a pdf about the Avro Arrow CF105, and a Hemmings bit about a custom glass body.
https://www.hemmings.com/stories/2013/12/10...car-rises-again
Thinking..a rust free -14, lol.
Why the TVR Zante is still a viable project, and with modern power, suspension pieces.

found it
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1989 70 914-6 Carl Young

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I believe there is a turbo six 914 in orange, here, and with long gears could possibly break the 175 trap Carl Young set in '89.

Why didn't I think of that ?
A simple solution to lowering the front end, raise the strut mount through the hood, bonnet, and cap with aero bubbles. The rear, by cutting the spring, I wonder if they also raised the swingarm pivots by the correct amount. A genuine 69 build -6.
What has it's fate been ?
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