McMark
May 29 2019, 10:11 AM
QUOTE(horizontally-opposed @ May 28 2019, 05:54 PM)
QUOTE(McMark @ May 28 2019, 12:20 PM)
Gettin' drastic....
The driver side long was straighter, but still bent. And that became really evident when I cut into it and all the stress released. Practically popped from the bound up stress.
Floor pans weren't terrible either, except by the time I patched all the little rust spots I might as well do the whole thing. Plus I can clean and check inside the center tunnel.
It's pretty amazing how solid everything else is though. Not a bit of wobble or mobility to either half of the car. I
my Celette bench.
Good thing we had that straightening party...
Seems that way for sure. But really that helped a ton. I'm pretty dang happy that this is all I have to deal with. What Andy and Yeoman put into this car already was the hard part. This part is relatively easy....
I said relatively!
Bleyseng
May 29 2019, 12:01 PM
progress!!!!!!!!!!
McMark
May 30 2019, 12:22 PM
Cleared out the last remnants of the longs. There's quite a bit of minor straightening to do on the right side. I might cut out the bent up dash section next week. I suspect there's quite a bit of stress hiding there. And fitting up the replacement panel may illuminate a few more alignment issues. We'll see.
SirAndy
May 30 2019, 12:33 PM
McMark
May 30 2019, 12:50 PM
That’s satisfying.
SirAndy
May 30 2019, 01:53 PM
Nice!
Luke M
Jun 11 2019, 12:38 PM
horizontally-opposed
Jun 11 2019, 01:01 PM
It is so cool to see this car making a comeback–and the metal in the door areas, both A- and B-pillar suggests that it's a much better starting point than some restorations we've seen.
914_teener
Jun 11 2019, 01:05 PM
QUOTE(McMark @ May 30 2019, 11:50 AM)
That’s satisfying.
Is that a Notch I see framed through the door bracing Mr. Mark?
rhodyguy
Jun 11 2019, 01:13 PM
BMW.
McMark
Jun 11 2019, 01:26 PM
QUOTE(914_teener @ Jun 11 2019, 03:05 PM)
QUOTE(McMark @ May 30 2019, 11:50 AM)
That’s satisfying.
Is that a Notch I see framed through the door bracing Mr. Mark?
1973 BMW 2002 - 2003 S2000 motor/trans swap running stock Honda injection, fully integrated wiring. Custom lowering front and rear. Custom front valence. blah blah blah
http://www.originalcustoms.com/invoice/images.php?p=175
McMark
Jun 11 2019, 01:29 PM
Another aspect Celette didn’t consider with the MZ towers. The rear pinch clamps don’t reach. So I had some 3/4” plate laser cut to extend the clamp forwards.
SirAndy
Jun 11 2019, 01:51 PM
QUOTE(McMark @ Jun 11 2019, 12:29 PM)
Another aspect Celette didn’t consider with the MZ towers. The rear pinch clamps don’t reach. So I had some 3/4” plate laser cut to extend the clamp forwards.
Sorry you have to go through all that crap with Celette ...
McMark
Jun 18 2019, 03:48 PM
The first bit of new metal!
Click to view attachment Got your PM, Andy. Will respond tomorrow afternoon. Time to head home...
SirAndy
Jun 18 2019, 04:03 PM
QUOTE(McMark @ Jun 18 2019, 02:48 PM)
Got your PM, Andy. Will respond tomorrow afternoon. Time to head home...
Cairo94507
Jun 18 2019, 04:13 PM
porschetub
Jun 18 2019, 08:34 PM
QUOTE(Cairo94507 @ Jun 19 2019, 10:13 AM)
,was really a bent up mess that will soon to be a straight tidy shell,wow this thread is going to be a truly epic build ,so watching it for updates
.
mepstein
Jun 18 2019, 08:47 PM
A lot of work and $ for a serial number but I appreciate the passion.
SirAndy
Jun 18 2019, 09:09 PM
QUOTE(mepstein @ Jun 18 2019, 07:47 PM)
A lot of work and $ for a serial number but I appreciate the passion.
So far, it's less than 1/10th of what i have in my /4 and that one still looks like crap ...
Cairo94507
Jun 18 2019, 09:56 PM
Oh, don't worry.... that is going to change.
McMark
Jun 26 2019, 12:50 PM
Moved on to the front end. We have a cut section from another car to swap in. The right fender well is gonna need a lot of massaging to bring back into place. This will give me access, and as I mentioned previously, fitting the new piece will illustrate any minor misalignment.
More work to do here, but the next big step will be fitting the new longitudinals.
SirAndy
Jun 26 2019, 12:56 PM
McMark
Jun 26 2019, 01:02 PM
QUOTE(SirAndy @ Jun 26 2019, 02:56 PM)
I get a little wave of anxiety every time you post that emoji. I better start making it look like more of a car soon so you can post happier emojis.
Cairo94507
Jun 26 2019, 01:12 PM
SirAndy has nothing to worry about - but I do understand the anxiety. I am quite certain McMark has got this.
SirAndy
Jun 26 2019, 01:27 PM
QUOTE(McMark @ Jun 26 2019, 12:02 PM)
QUOTE(SirAndy @ Jun 26 2019, 02:56 PM)
I get a little wave of anxiety every time you post that emoji. I better start making it look like more of a car soon so you can post happier emojis.
It's all good. I knew that section had to go (i'm the one who got the replacement panel), but it still feels rather weird seeing this all cut out like that.
Krieger
Jun 26 2019, 02:09 PM
sixnotfour
Jun 26 2019, 02:28 PM
the center tunnel is a bit out of spec,
burton73
Jun 26 2019, 02:57 PM
Andy,
Are you going to take the drive train out of your red car and put it in this 6?
Bob B
McMark
Jul 26 2019, 04:37 AM
Little more progress. Got a few small wrinkles worked out of the center tunnel.
Click to view attachment Click to view attachmentClick to view attachmentAlso built a measuring device (I've since learned it's called a tram gauge) to check measurements left to right or from my purple car to Andy's 6. So I made a few adjustment tweaks to pull the front shock towers into alignment.
Click to view attachment Click to view attachment
SirAndy
Jul 26 2019, 10:14 AM
914Sixer
Jul 26 2019, 10:17 AM
Great to see it progressing the right way.
Luke M
Sep 24 2019, 12:34 PM
@McMark Mark,
Could you post a few pics of the front upper strut and front suspension fixtures ?
I purchased a bench and need to figure out the front fixture portion of it.
TIA
Larmo63
Sep 24 2019, 01:30 PM
Andy is posting better emojis too!!!
Superhawk996
Sep 24 2019, 03:42 PM
I look at this thread when I feel overwhelmed by my project.
Nice work going on and at the end of the day another 914/6 will be saved.
FourBlades
May 22 2020, 06:39 AM
How is this car coming along?
It is great that you are saving it.
I understand that the 914 limo is probably holding it up.
Just kidding, my other 914 project is going on 10 years in (slow) progress now.
John
McMark
Jul 13 2020, 04:28 PM
Yeah, I'm still alive...
Built a lot of jigs, measured a lot, and scratched my head a lot trying to make sure everything will line up where it needs to go. Finally got to the part where I start putting metal back into place. And guess what I learned? This inner long piece is about 0.25" shorter than the original.
Gotta figure out how I'm gonna deal with this. Maybe there's another brand, or maybe I'll CAD one up and have my CNC lasercut & bending shop make me a custom one.
Cairo94507
Jul 13 2020, 04:32 PM
I have been waiting to see some progress pictures of Andy's Six. Nice to see some new metal going on. That is a huge thing in a build.
SirAndy
Jul 13 2020, 05:38 PM
QUOTE(McMark @ Jul 13 2020, 03:28 PM)
This inner long piece is about 0.25" shorter than the original.
Krieger
Jul 13 2020, 07:54 PM
Dude, glad to see you post!
euro911
Jul 13 2020, 08:02 PM
QUOTE(SirAndy @ Jul 13 2020, 04:38 PM)
QUOTE(McMark @ Jul 13 2020, 03:28 PM)
This inner long piece is about 0.25" shorter than the original.
Is it an 'R-D' piece?
Luke M
Jul 14 2020, 06:05 AM
QUOTE(euro911 @ Jul 13 2020, 07:02 PM)
QUOTE(SirAndy @ Jul 13 2020, 04:38 PM)
QUOTE(McMark @ Jul 13 2020, 03:28 PM)
This inner long piece is about 0.25" shorter than the original.
Is it an 'R-D' piece?
Pretty sure that's a AA piece. I had that same piece and then purchased the long section from Germany. It's a repo to the factory part but it was also shorter.
I finally found the right factory section for my 6 repair. It's not gonna be an easy fix. As Mark has stated lots of measuring. I recently purchased a set of 914 chassis fixtures which should help in fixing my 6.
Mark, when I was looking at using that long section from AA I found a few problems with it. The seat belt mount location was off, hot air tube hole was way too small, and needed a lot of fitting to fit proper. Hope it works out.
McMark
Jul 14 2020, 04:36 PM
QUOTE
Mark, when I was looking at using that long section from AA I found a few problems with it. The seat belt mount location was off, hot air tube hole was way too small, and needed a lot of fitting to fit proper. Hope it works out.
Sounds like we're talking about the same part. That's my complaint list too.
Got started on the drawing, but found out the front of the long is shorter than the back to accommodate the 'rise' in the floor pan. Duh. But I'm asking the shop if they can make bends this close together. If not, I'll have to make it flat like the other repro parts. Or something else I have in the back of my mind.
Luke M
Jul 14 2020, 05:19 PM
Here's a link to what I was dealing with.
http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?sho...87820&st=20I sold both pieces when I found the factory part.
I can dig my factory long out and take measurements if you need some.
sixnotfour
Jul 14 2020, 11:09 PM
AHHH,, I see...Cant really tell if the HESS part has it,,but it does have more correct stamping... pinch weld is straight regardless
Lg914
Jul 15 2020, 05:15 AM
The restoration design part has the same flaws. It isn’t quite the correct size and the front heater tube hole is not even close to being the proper size. But we have to make do.
McMark
Jul 15 2020, 02:15 PM
QUOTE(sixnotfour @ Jul 15 2020, 01:09 AM)
pinch weld is straight regardless
Damn, good catch. Hmmm....
QUOTE(Lg914 @ Jul 15 2020, 07:15 AM)
The restoration design part has the same flaws.
I'm confident the part R-D sells is not made by them, but likely AA or the same people. If R-D makes their own version, I expect it will be massively better.
McMark
Jul 15 2020, 03:43 PM
CNC shop called and said this design is totally fine. So after adding the last few features, I think this is the final -- unless someone else can see something I missed.
sixnotfour
Jul 15 2020, 03:50 PM
I have cherry used one for my wreck.....But, how many, how much ? L & R ?
SirAndy
Jul 15 2020, 04:16 PM
QUOTE(McMark @ Jul 15 2020, 02:43 PM)
unless someone else can see something I missed.
Give it some extra on the rounded end so you can bend it up to create the flange?
peteyd
Jul 16 2020, 06:19 AM
QUOTE(McMark @ Jul 15 2020, 12:15 PM)
QUOTE(sixnotfour @ Jul 15 2020, 01:09 AM)
pinch weld is straight regardless
Damn, good catch. Hmmm....
QUOTE(Lg914 @ Jul 15 2020, 07:15 AM)
The restoration design part has the same flaws.
I'm confident the part R-D sells is not made by them, but likely AA or the same people. If R-D makes their own version, I expect it will be massively better.
I will confirm that although we resell both items, left and right, neither are our stampings.
Hess stamps the drvr side and AA is the passenger side.
Pete
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